RE: Ayrton Senna tribute McLaren P1 GTR
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Don Colione said:
Let me get this straight….
“Commissioned by a McLaren collector and completed over a period of three years for an undisclosed price.”
“Built to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Ayrton Senna’s first Formula 1 championship victory.”
“The “new owner” describes a “suitably pleasing” increase in power as a result of the modifications. However, no official details of performance changes have been released.” (Yet Again
)
“Aerodynamic modifications, including a redesigned front splitter and Gurney flap, are said to increase downforce from a peak of 600kg in race mode to roughly 800kg.” (They always seem to release those “downforce figures" though, which are coincidentally are starting to sound the same now.)
“McLaren says it has no further plans to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Senna's first win.” – Autocar
So.. a "new customer", "three years ago", orders a custom bespoke "800hr paint job" MSO P1GTR, at an "undisclosed price"; to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Senna's first championship win with MCLAREN, which "they" have no "further plans" to celebrate.….
“Chassis number 12 – chosen because it was also the number used by the legendary driver.” – Pistonheads
Don’t specific customer cars have specific chassis numbers? This “new customer”, who commissioned this job "three years ago", just so happened to also have the P1 GTR chassis number that coincidentally matched Senna’s number 12 as well…
Okay Mclaren PR dept…. whatever you say……..
If everything is as professed; how would they have celebrated the victory if the "new customer" didn't commission the project to the perfectly numbered chassis 'three years ago'?
The fact that they didn't use the actual "Senna" for this PR stunt, speaks volumes.
Another conspiracy theory?“Commissioned by a McLaren collector and completed over a period of three years for an undisclosed price.”
“Built to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Ayrton Senna’s first Formula 1 championship victory.”
“The “new owner” describes a “suitably pleasing” increase in power as a result of the modifications. However, no official details of performance changes have been released.” (Yet Again
)“Aerodynamic modifications, including a redesigned front splitter and Gurney flap, are said to increase downforce from a peak of 600kg in race mode to roughly 800kg.” (They always seem to release those “downforce figures" though, which are coincidentally are starting to sound the same now.)
“McLaren says it has no further plans to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Senna's first win.” – Autocar
So.. a "new customer", "three years ago", orders a custom bespoke "800hr paint job" MSO P1GTR, at an "undisclosed price"; to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Senna's first championship win with MCLAREN, which "they" have no "further plans" to celebrate.….
“Chassis number 12 – chosen because it was also the number used by the legendary driver.” – Pistonheads
Don’t specific customer cars have specific chassis numbers? This “new customer”, who commissioned this job "three years ago", just so happened to also have the P1 GTR chassis number that coincidentally matched Senna’s number 12 as well…
Okay Mclaren PR dept…. whatever you say……..
If everything is as professed; how would they have celebrated the victory if the "new customer" didn't commission the project to the perfectly numbered chassis 'three years ago'?
The fact that they didn't use the actual "Senna" for this PR stunt, speaks volumes.
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coppice said:
It is reflective of the ghastly , backward looking and totally cynical nostalgia industry . I am tired of seeing endless 'tributes' to people like Senna , McQueen et al which exploit memories and turn them into parodies like this bloody horror .
Odd, isn't it , that in Senna's glory years we didn't get Fangio liveried Mercs or faux Ecurie Ecosse D Types - we were focussed on the future.
Production cars cars are even worse - every 911 since the Jurassic era is a tribute act to its predecessor , ditto nearly every Jag up to the F type , 'new' Beetle and Alpine Renault. And every Aston Martin ever made since the DB4 ...
Blimey. I thought I was cynical!Odd, isn't it , that in Senna's glory years we didn't get Fangio liveried Mercs or faux Ecurie Ecosse D Types - we were focussed on the future.
Production cars cars are even worse - every 911 since the Jurassic era is a tribute act to its predecessor , ditto nearly every Jag up to the F type , 'new' Beetle and Alpine Renault. And every Aston Martin ever made since the DB4 ...
Maldini35 said:
Another conspiracy theory?
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I wouldn't say conspiracy theory. I'm sure there are owners out there who think about potential projects all tying together. But you have to admit this one is more than curious. You’re great fun
Especially when you do some digging
This is P1GTR #12 on 13th Feb 2018 (presumably before it's repainting
) Lives in Saudi apparentlyhttp://exclusivecarregistry.com/mclaren/p1gtr/3347...
Here's P1 #12 Living in Muscat
http://exclusivecarregistry.com/mclaren/p1/1078201...
Edited by Rich_W on Tuesday 25th December 10:54
Maldini35 said:
Another conspiracy theory?
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Lol you appear to be a glutton for punishment... And still with the stupid pictures.....You’re great fun
Thanks Rich_W .... Its a shame when the commenters are doing better journalism than the writers of these blogs.
Back to the corner for you dunceman...
darreni said:
I like it and if you can afford it, why not?
Well quite. I’m sure most of us, given a spare few million of whatever currency in the bank, would love to commission our own special supercar from one of the leading manufacturers. We should be collectively celebrating these mad rich people, and the companies that will literally build someone’s dream car.
A few years ago only Rolls Royce and occasionally Ferrari would entertain this sort of project, now it’s much more widespread. From the manufacturer’s point of view it’s good publicity, certainly profitable and is great fun for the engineering departments to do something a little different occasionally.
Sandpit Steve said:
Well quite. I’m sure most of us, given a spare few million of whatever currency in the bank, would love to commission our own special supercar from one of the leading manufacturers.
We should be collectively celebrating these mad rich people, and the companies that will literally build someone’s dream car.
A few years ago only Rolls Royce and occasionally Ferrari would entertain this sort of project, now it’s much more widespread. From the manufacturer’s point of view it’s good publicity, certainly profitable and is great fun for the engineering departments to do something a little different occasionally.
Totally agree. We should be collectively celebrating these mad rich people, and the companies that will literally build someone’s dream car.
A few years ago only Rolls Royce and occasionally Ferrari would entertain this sort of project, now it’s much more widespread. From the manufacturer’s point of view it’s good publicity, certainly profitable and is great fun for the engineering departments to do something a little different occasionally.
Its a bespoke customer order rather than a new P1 edition which seems to be lost on some posters.
Seeing this car made me smile, I was lucky enough to do a factory tour and whilst being shown around the cars on the boulevard you could see the assembly area for the P1 GTR. The P1 had just finished its production run and the GTR was in full swing. Whilst looking through the windows you could just make out a couple of chassis being assembled, but right in front of the windows there was an area of painted body panels (lots of them!) and a good amount of them were painted in the Marlboro paint scheme. Ever since I have searched a Marlboro liveried GTR and never found anything, pics or otherwise so seeing this has brought back memories of a great day out! Now the thing is my tour was on the 13th of November 2015 I remember this as it was the day of the Bataclan theatre shooting in Paris, not a date to forget! So is this that car? or are there more than one with similar paint, it does tie in with the article. Hmm interesting!!
As a long term Senna fan and foundation supporter I like how Maclaren have paid tribute with the Senna model.
This option, IMHO, would have been fine as a wrap but as a full repaint it simply confirms that in many cases money doesn’t equal good taste or sense ... 800hrs at M’s hourly rate is probably the cost of a new 540S ... madness, and that was ‘just’ the paint!
Maybe in the CF it will look better then on screen ... but wil it ever be seen?
This option, IMHO, would have been fine as a wrap but as a full repaint it simply confirms that in many cases money doesn’t equal good taste or sense ... 800hrs at M’s hourly rate is probably the cost of a new 540S ... madness, and that was ‘just’ the paint!
Maybe in the CF it will look better then on screen ... but wil it ever be seen?
Rich_W said:
I wouldn't say conspiracy theory. I'm sure there are owners out there who think about potential projects all tying together. But you have to admit this one is more than curious.
Especially when you do some digging
This is P1GTR #12 on 13th Feb 2018 (presumably before it's repainting) Lives in Saudi apparently ....
Here's P1 #12 Living in Muscat ....
Earlier in the week when a friend sent me links to pictures of this ‘makeover’, it was linked to a specialist dealer in the East Anglia region of the UK ... number 12 has certainly travelledEspecially when you do some digging
This is P1GTR #12 on 13th Feb 2018 (presumably before it's repainting
) Lives in Saudi apparently ....Here's P1 #12 Living in Muscat ....
Edited by Rich_W on Tuesday 25th December 10:54
senninha2 said:
Earlier in the week when a friend sent me links to pictures of this ‘makeover’, it was linked to a specialist dealer in the East Anglia region of the UK ... number 12 has certainly travelled
Well that seems odd. Either owner was in Saudi and approached McLaren to paint it as they said in their press releaseOR
It wasn't #12
OR
Someone is fibbing!
Lets see the pics
Sandpit Steve said:
Well quite. I’m sure most of us, given a spare few million of whatever currency in the bank, would love to commission our own special supercar from one of the leading manufacturers.
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