RE: Volkswagen sneaks GTI engine into Tiguan

[nickfrog]

dme123 said:

These medium powerful 4x4s with autos are absolutely perfect for straight line hero Nigel to show people in lesser cars who is boss away from the lights, and I must admit I've been very entertained by how quick they are from a standing start.

I have very occasionally came across the Nigel type you described and it was not particularly in SUVs anyway. Their behaviour or choice of car didn't particularly bothered me though.

Edited by nickfrog on Saturday 12th January 09:14

[grumpyscot]

Is fitting te GTI engine a response to Skoda having a Kodiak VRS? Same engine perhaps since it's basically the same car (only Skoda is more refined and has fewer rattles!)

[Hub]

grumpyscot said:

Is fitting te GTI engine a response to Skoda having a Kodiak VRS? Same engine perhaps since it's basically the same car (only Skoda is more refined and has fewer rattles!)

The Skoda is diesel only I think?

[Downward]

Housey said:

I typed 'Given up on life' into Altavista and a picture on a Tuguan came up.

Even with a GTI engine.

Happens to us all eventually.
One day your thrashing your hot hatch, then years later with the wife and kids your in the VW dealership thinking ooo I really need one of those new SUV’s because the last 15 years these 5 door hatch backs have just been too small.

[aaron_2000]

Downward said:

Housey said:

I typed 'Given up on life' into Altavista and a picture on a Tuguan came up.

Even with a GTI engine.

Happens to us all eventually.
One day your thrashing your hot hatch, then years later with the wife and kids your in the VW dealership thinking ooo I really need one of those new SUV’s because the last 15 years these 5 door hatch backs have just been too small.

Isn't that why they made estate cars?

[va1o]

Hub said:

grumpyscot said:

Is fitting te GTI engine a response to Skoda having a Kodiak VRS? Same engine perhaps since it's basically the same car (only Skoda is more refined and has fewer rattles!)

The Skoda is diesel only I think?

Yep the new VRS uses the 2.0 BiTDI which I think was already offered in the Tiguan for a while

Not really that much difference between the two in performance looking at the stats, this will be a nicer drive for sure.

[Downward]

aaron_2000 said:

Downward said:

Housey said:

I typed 'Given up on life' into Altavista and a picture on a Tuguan came up.

Even with a GTI engine.

Happens to us all eventually.
One day your thrashing your hot hatch, then years later with the wife and kids your in the VW dealership thinking ooo I really need one of those new SUV’s because the last 15 years these 5 door hatch backs have just been too small.

Isn't that why they made estate cars?

Dunno Our kids are older now but the biggest car we had is a Focus.
Many holidays when they were younger with pushchairs were taken with a roof box.
a
These aren’t cool though

[aaron_2000]

Downward said:

aaron_2000 said:

Downward said:

Housey said:

I typed 'Given up on life' into Altavista and a picture on a Tuguan came up.

Even with a GTI engine.

Happens to us all eventually.
One day your thrashing your hot hatch, then years later with the wife and kids your in the VW dealership thinking ooo I really need one of those new SUV’s because the last 15 years these 5 door hatch backs have just been too small.

Isn't that why they made estate cars?

Dunno Our kids are older now but the biggest car we had is a Focus.
Many holidays when they were younger with pushchairs were taken with a roof box.
a
These aren’t cool though

I'd imagine an A6 Avant/E Class Estate/ Mondeo Estate would be at the very least as practical as a crossover.

[Shiv_P]

I fit my bike into my mums current shape Tiguan with both wheels.
I couldn't fit it into my cousins A6 Avant C6.

But then again, this is PH. SUVs are not allowed to be more practical than estates.

The Tiguan is a very nice car also, for under £30k it has a serious amount of kit and has 150bhp 1.4 petrol engine. Pan roof, digital dials, 8" sat nav with android auto etc, adaptive cruise, lane assist, reverse cam etc etc...

[aaron_2000]

Shiv_P said:

But then again, this is PH. SUVs are not allowed to be more practical than estates.

What? I like SUVs, proper SUVs, not hatchbacks on stilts. I don't get the point of crossovers, if it wasn't for having access to a VW Touareg, I would've never been able to empty my entire garage in 1 go, find it hard to believe a VW Tiguan is any roomier than a Mondeo estate though. But then again, this is PH. Opinions aren't allowed unless everyone agrees with them.

Edited by aaron_2000 on Saturday 12th January 21:26

[Johnnytheboy]

I can't help thinking the GTI engine would be better in the GTI.

[Omega1987]

Downward said:

Happens to us all eventually.
One day your thrashing your hot hatch, then years later with the wife and kids your in the VW dealership thinking ooo I really need one of those new SUV’s because the last 15 years these 5 door hatch backs have just been too small.

I think people often underestimate the versatility of the humble hatchback. The biggest car we ever had when I was a kid was my dad's Citroën Saxo VTS and it used to take us as a family of four on camping holidays most years with no problems. Fast forward 20 years and I'm finding my Peugeot 208 GTi fine for moving kids and buggies around at the weekend. If I needed something bigger I'd go for a fast estate, pretend off roaders are fairly useless vehicles as they're no more capacious than a regular car but the handling, ride comfort and efficiency is all compromised by the jacked up suspension and chunky body kit.

Edited by Omega1987 on Sunday 13th January 09:24

[nickfrog]

aaron_2000 said:

Shiv_P said:

But then again, this is PH. SUVs are not allowed to be more practical than estates.

What? I like SUVs, proper SUVs, not hatchbacks on stilts. I don't get the point of crossovers, if it wasn't for having access to a VW Touareg, I would've never been able to empty my entire garage in 1 go, find it hard to believe a VW Tiguan is any roomier than a Mondeo estate though. But then again, this is PH. Opinions aren't allowed unless everyone agrees with them.

Not sure this is the case. Nothing wrong with estates, I have one but I find crossovers far more practical yet in a smaller footprint, with a higher driving position, more wheel travel / clearance, better ride, taller sidewalls. They use a little more fuel and ultimately their higher cog will affect handling/grip but it's not like they topple over, they're actually a good steer for the intended modest road use. I wouldn't pick one for fun or track day but then again I wouldn't pick an estate either.

I can fit two bikes in the A4 Estate but what a pain as they don't fit in height whereas the Karoq (Tiguan with a Skoda badge) not only takes two bikes vertically with just the front wheels off but while not an off roader, it goes places where the Audi wouldn't because of the limited clearance. The perfect family car for us, and while it may be embarrassing for some, I am not massively bothered about image.

Edited by nickfrog on Sunday 13th January 12:42

[Johnnytheboy]

nickfrog said:

Not sure this is the case. Nothing wrong with estates, I have one but I find crossovers far more practical yet in a smaller footprint, with a higher driving position, more wheel travel / clearance, better ride, taller sidewalls. They use a little more fuel and ultimately their higher cog will affect handling/grip but it's not like they topple over, they're actually a good steer for the intended modest road use. I wouldn't pick one for fun or track day but then again I wouldn't pick an estate either.

I can fit two bikes in the A4 Estate but what a pain as they don't fit in height whereas the Karoq (Tiguan with a Skoda badge) not only takes two bikes vertically with just the front wheels off but while not an off roader, it goes places where the Audi wouldn't because of the limited clearance. The perfect family car for us, and while it may be embarrassing for some, I am not massively bothered about image.

Edited by nickfrog on Sunday 13th January 12:42

The high roofline I can see is practical.

The high floor not so much.

[nickfrog]

Johnnytheboy said:

The high roofline I can see is practical.

The high floor not so much.

True but the main thing is that the overall clearance and size of the opening is significantly higher than in an "equivalent" estate. In the 2wd version at least, the floor is only higher than an estate' s floor by amount equivalent to the added suspension travel, probably 4 inches or so.

[Burwood]

Perception being a huge factor. My wife hates estate cars. Wants AWD because of our rural location and bad weather and the taller driving position.