RE: Urus boosts Lamborghini sales by 46 per cent

RE: Urus boosts Lamborghini sales by 46 per cent

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anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 13th January 2019
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E65Ross said:
To think they're identical isn't correct.
of course not, VAG wouldn't be able to charge more for the higher brand. SUV's are a massive cash cow.

E65Ross

35,093 posts

213 months

Sunday 13th January 2019
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thiscocks said:
Lets face it how many Uterus's do we think will actually be used to carry things and people in? I bet the majority will have just the driver or one passenger in. Its just a massive statement car for rich people to show how much money they have.
I'd suggest all uteri will only carry people, usually 1 at any given time, often unused for many years. Occasionally 2 or more may occupy at any given time.

Don't be so childish with the naming. It's rather pathetic. One could call your Volvo a vulva, for example, but it'd be like being back to the early days of secondary school. Grow up, would you.

Secondly, why does it matter if it's not used to carry things and many people in, and the majority would just have a driver? Why does that matter? The driver buys it, if they're happy with it, why should you or anyone else care? Friend of mine had an RS4 avant for several years. He used it once a year for holidays, that was it, otherwise it was just a daily runabout for him, he rarely used the large boot. Should he have got a single seater to take him to and from work instead?

I genuinely don't understand the vitriol towards SUVs, or some cars in general. If you don't like it....don't buy one. It's not difficult. Or are you so against someone having a larger choice?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Was talking to a friend last night about his, he’s picking up today I think. It’s extraordinarily expensive in Switzerland!

I don’t understand the whinging, modern car manufacturers need to make money. Be grateful that the Urus exists and that it delays the inevitable scourge of soulless milk floats.

sidesauce

2,480 posts

219 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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thiscocks said:
Its just a massive statement car for rich people to show how much money they have.
Sounds like someone's very bitter to me... Maybe you should have studied harder in school? Trying to take some sort of moral high ground is simply pathetic as we all in some way shape or form make statements regarding wealth in the 'nice' things we like and choose to buy. Yes, even you do it!

Around where I live, rich yummy-mummy types (i.e. those carrying more than one passenger) LOVE the Porsche Cayenne Turbo, Range-Rover Autobiography, Merc GL and G-Wagen, Bentley Bentayga, Audi Q8/RSQ7 etc and the Urus will join them as it perfectly fits with what wealthy families want. All of the aforementioned cars are statements to show how much money one has - so what? Should none of these cars exist? Should they be all driving Dacia Dusters with steel wheels? Get over yourself already. As E65Ross said, even if that's not the case that they're used in a practical capacity, why do you care if someone drives one by themselves anyway? You simply not liking the people who like/drive SUVs is irrational at best, jealous at worst.

Who do you think Lamborghini have sold so many Urus to? If all these people simply wanted to drive alone or have one other passenger, they could have bought a Huracan at a similar price point but obviously that car isn't one you'd necessarily want to drive as a daily - the Urus is a FAR more practical proposition.

Edited by sidesauce on Monday 14th January 07:08

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

68 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Sidney Smut said:
Seen a couple on the road, different but a Lambo needs to turn heads...these do not!!
style wise its very diluted against the uncompromising Lamborghinis, but what can you do with the demands of an SUV platform? I see a shiney metallic green one of these often around town, it makes me cringe - it's a mum-wagon for people who want to kid themselves they don't really have a mum-wagon, its the vehicular equivalent of a bloke with middle age spread squeezing himself into skinny jeans and trying to impress girls down the club.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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sidesauce said:
ounds like someone's very bitter to me... Maybe you should have studied harder in school? Trying to take some sort of moral high ground is simply pathetic as we all in some way shape or form make statements regarding wealth in the 'nice' things we like and choose to buy. Yes, even you do it!

Around where I live, rich yummy-mummy types (i.e. those carrying more than one passenger) LOVE the Porsche Cayenne Turbo, Range-Rover Autobiography, Merc GL and G-Wagen, Bentley Bentayga, Audi Q8/RSQ7 etc and the Urus will join them as it perfectly fits with what wealthy families want. All of the aforementioned cars are statements to show how much money one has - so what? Should none of these cars exist? Should they be all driving Dacia Dusters with steel wheels? Get over yourself already. As E65Ross said, even if that's not the case that they're used in a practical capacity, why do you care if someone drives one by themselves anyway? You simply not liking the people who like/drive SUVs is irrational at best, jealous at worst.

Who do you think Lamborghini have sold so many Urus to? If all these people simply wanted to drive alone or have one other passenger, they could have bought a Huracan at a similar price point but obviously that car isn't one you'd necessarily want to drive as a daily - the Urus is a FAR more practical proposition.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 14th January 07:08
The guy I know changed from an 2017 RS6 Avant.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

157 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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thiscocks said:
Lets face it how many Uterus's do we think will actually be used to carry things and people in? I bet the majority will have just the driver or one passenger in. Its just a massive statement car for rich people to show how much money they have.
It’s surely their money though to spend as they like?

Bladedancer

1,277 posts

197 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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BigR said:
Bladedancer said:
E65Ross said:
If it was all-electric he'd love it.

It's funny, people keep saying Lambo are now rubbish, nothing like the good old days when they had the Countach....yet so many people who have driven one say they're a right PIA.....James May absolutely hated it. Now they make exciting cars which are usable. Anyone who doesn't think a Huracan Performante isn't a "proper" supercar needs their head looking at IMO.
Excitiing though? Not so sure. VAG re-dresses Q7 into every brand their own and it does sell well, I'll give them that, but to say they are "exciting"? No sure on this one.

(yes I'm aware that they've put a bijillion horse power under the bonnet to make is schnell in a straight line)
So you're saying a Performante is a Q7 in another dress? ;-) An Urus is actually quite an exciting car to drive, more so than my Cayenne - things are relative. But my Huracan is of course more exciting and exciting in a different way. And more exciting that 99% of things on the road.

It's also been said on here earlier, but an Urus really is not a Q7 in another dress. Really, the commonality of parts is incredibly low. But we shouldn't let facts get in the way, of course.
It uses the same platform as Q7.
The engine, if memory serves, is from Audi, not Lambo's own creation.
Yes, it has a fecktonne of space stuff carbon fiber in it to make it lighter than, say, Breyugly and yes, you can argue parts commonality (and a lot of the mentioned carbon fiber structure is bespoke to this car), but these cars are built on the same platform and use parts from the same bin.
Re-dressing Q7 makes this car cost-effective and maximizes ROI, but I do appreciate a lot more work went into Urus than some other re-dresses that VAG has done.

sidesauce

2,480 posts

219 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Teddy Lop said:
its the vehicular equivalent of a bloke with middle age spread squeezing himself into skinny jeans and trying to impress girls down the club.
Not really. You;re focussing on looks but a) it has definitely got its own style and b) it's not just simply the aesthetics people are after - the performance of this SUV monsters most 'normal' cars - in fact, it pretty much outperforms every previous Lamborghini from before the original Murcielago!

Greg the Fish

1,410 posts

67 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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sidesauce said:
ot really. You;re focussing on looks but a) it has definitely got its own style and b) it's not just simply the aesthetics people are after - the performance of this SUV monsters most 'normal' cars - in fact, it pretty much outperforms every previous Lamborghini from before the original Murcielago!
It certainly does have its own style. I quite like it but it lacks a certain 'drama' that is normally associated with a decent Lambo. I am in no doubt that it's a cracking drive though!

E65Ross

35,093 posts

213 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Bladedancer said:
It uses the same platform as Q7.
The engine, if memory serves, is from Audi, not Lambo's own creation.
Like the R8 V10 in the Huracan, then?

ZX10R NIN

27,632 posts

126 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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E65Ross said:
Like the R8 V10 in the Huracan, then?
Often assumed but actually incorrect they're different engines the displacement is the same but that's about it.

E65Ross

35,093 posts

213 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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ZX10R NIN said:
E65Ross said:
Like the R8 V10 in the Huracan, then?
Often assumed but actually incorrect they're different engines the displacement is the same but that's about it.
I stand corrected bowtie

Bo_apex

2,567 posts

219 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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E65Ross said:
Bo_apex said:
footsoldier said:
It’s just progress,like it or not.
Not sure all these oversized SUV's on the road is progress for society.
How do you mean?
These massive cars can encourage people to haul more junk around and get fatter - just because they can.

In the US they have a history of this, because they have more road space.

I'm not sure if Lamborghini would have gone bust without this SUV, but it certainly provides a more unisex appeal for new buyers / drivers.

Once upon a time you needed significant triceps to pilot a Lambo well. Bingo Wings were pretty useless

E65Ross

35,093 posts

213 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Bo_apex said:
These massive cars can encourage people to haul more junk around and get fatter - just because they can.

In the US they have a history of this, because they have more road space.

I'm not sure if Lamborghini would have gone bust without this SUV, but it certainly provides a more unisex appeal for new buyers / drivers.

Once upon a time you needed significant triceps to pilot a Lambo well. Bingo Wings were pretty useless
I'm not sure of you're being serious or not? Based on what you're saying, should be ban all cars with electric power steering and a large boot?

Bo_apex

2,567 posts

219 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
And all the better for it, the Countach looked fantastic on paper, but cars live on roads. My sole, 5 mile drive in a Countach was utterly miserable.
I would suggest that at 5 whole miles neither you or the Countach were even warm smile

https://www.arnesantics.com/i-went-searching-for-t...

footsoldier

2,258 posts

193 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Since when were Lamborghinis not for middle aged men in nightclubs? Hardly diluting the brand!

Urus should be here in next 2 weeks, and will be nice to get a break from taking the other one to work. Will keep an eye out for triceps shrinking and bingo wings developing ;-)


Bo_apex

2,567 posts

219 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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footsoldier said:
Since when were Lamborghinis not for middle aged men in nightclubs? Hardly diluting the brand!

Urus should be here in next 2 weeks, and will be nice to get a break from taking the other one to work. Will keep an eye out for triceps shrinking and bingo wings developing ;-)

Very nice smile although such great design is now quite a rare sight outside Number 5 or Annabels

You will have some balance in your journeys so the bingo wings may not materialise

Buster73

5,063 posts

154 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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There was one at The Land Rover Experience at Skipton yesterday.

Quite a dramatic car to be honest.

Funnily enough it stayed in the car park all immaculate, don’t think it would ever go off road , definitely not like the Range Rover managed to do yesterday.

thiscocks

3,128 posts

196 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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E65Ross said:
thiscocks said:
Lets face it how many Uterus's do we think will actually be used to carry things and people in? I bet the majority will have just the driver or one passenger in. Its just a massive statement car for rich people to show how much money they have.
I'd suggest all uteri will only carry people, usually 1 at any given time, often unused for many years. Occasionally 2 or more may occupy at any given time.

Don't be so childish with the naming. It's rather pathetic. One could call your Volvo a vulva, for example, but it'd be like being back to the early days of secondary school. Grow up, would you.

Secondly, why does it matter if it's not used to carry things and many people in, and the majority would just have a driver? Why does that matter? The driver buys it, if they're happy with it, why should you or anyone else care? Friend of mine had an RS4 avant for several years. He used it once a year for holidays, that was it, otherwise it was just a daily runabout for him, he rarely used the large boot. Should he have got a single seater to take him to and from work instead?

I genuinely don't understand the vitriol towards SUVs, or some cars in general. If you don't like it....don't buy one. It's not difficult. Or are you so against someone having a larger choice?
Sorry I didn't mean to offend you by calling that pile of st car a Uterus. People call it that because it is so frigging ugly. I like to think a Volvo V70 is fairly inoffensive, so should be referred to as something lighthearted like an Ovlov.

It doesn't particularly matter to me if it is driven by one person, but I was responding to someone who said it will be bought to carry people and items in, which it wont. Its just an oversized ugly heap which you may have the misfortune to park next to in its two parking spaces. (probably only in Monaco admittedly).

I have no problem with an RS4. Tell him he can carry on using it.