RE: McLaren 720S Nordschleife lap: Time For Coffee

[SidewaysSi]

cayman-black said:

lol, don't post that on the Mclaren forum! They can't even give them back to the dealers.

I, m sure they soon will be.

Edited by cayman-black on Friday 11th January 16:34

Yep what a joke! Some people have more money than sense...

Good cars but no way on earth would I contemplate buying one!

[GranCab]

Guvernator said:

Strange, why do they suffer from such terrible depreciation? Is that in line with other supercars?

Sparse dealer network, patchy quality of cars and said dealerships, and the cars sound crap .....

[noble12345]

Ring times from McLarens non full carbon tub competition?

Performante Reality check: https://youtu.be/nataVD3aqFc

720's Stock power? 691 @ wheels https://youtu.be/YI8cxjbuD1E?t=436

McLaren 720S vs the World: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC7SNg2BUPQ

We should thank McLaren for making such awesome cars and kicking butt, ultimately the competition will have to evolve, making better cars for everyone!

[noble12345]

GranCab said:

Sparse dealer network, patchy quality of cars and said dealerships, and the cars sound crap .....

Ferrari wont like you saying that about their cars, or are you talking about Porsche?

[Rich_W]

topboss said:

I still don’t understand the fascination with n’burg lap times. Are people really that bothered by them? So many variables to consider that there basically worthless anyway.

Buy a car you like/want......simple.

Baron von wotsit on YouTube said the same thing about litre superbikes

Buy the one you like the look of, they are all way beyond everyone bar pro racers. (and I do love his HP4 Race! )

Same with any of these cars.

WRT Video

Why is anybody surprised it's really fast?

Only surprise is the vid was done so long ago.

[wst]

Excellent wrangling of the car there, fair play that man.

I wouldn't worry about the ultimate performance of the car around there, if I were in the market. Realistically whatever I drove around there would be limited by my fear of bending it/myself around a tree long before the car was the problem...

[hondansx]

Guvernator said:

Lots of people singing it's praises yet it's beaten by a Porsche that's £70k cheaper and down at least 220bhp on power.

Just sayin.

You don't know much about tyres then!

The McLaren would be way faster on either the Trofeo Rs or Cup 2s.

[mills41]

The Mercedes AMG GTR was on special purpose built Michelin Cup 2. Not the standard ones we can buy.

[S1KRR]

mills41 said:

The Mercedes AMG GTR was on special purpose built Michelin Cup 2. Not the standard ones we can buy.

How are they different from ones you can buy?

[isaldiri]

S1KRR said:

mills41 said:

The Mercedes AMG GTR was on special purpose built Michelin Cup 2. Not the standard ones we can buy.

How are they different from ones you can buy?

You can buy them afaik, exactly like the Cup2 R on the Porsche, just that they are a heck of a lot more expensive. Pretty lousy when cold, much faster wearing, very quick while they last on track....

[RobM77]

S1KRR said:

mills41 said:

The Mercedes AMG GTR was on special purpose built Michelin Cup 2. Not the standard ones we can buy.

How are they different from ones you can buy?

Lots of cars have been made with specific tyres. Tyres are complex things and there's a huge amount about a tyre that can be changed to work with a particular car better.

For example, my single seater and the slicks it uses are designed for each other and run a very particular geometry and suspension design that has to change quite a bit to run on different tyres, as many people I know have done. The 2-Eleven it replaced had specific tyres too, mainly for its unusual weight distribution, present on all Elise variants. The S1 Elise, which ran standard off the shelf tyres, suffered from many issues due to the fact it had such a light front end; for wet performance it needed narrower front tyres to get the pressure required to reduce aquaplaning, but in the dry this meant less grip (unlike plane surfaces, tyre contact patch area is proportional to grip and is also related to the compound you can run due to cooling effects being proportional to width). A compromise was reached, which resulted in slightly unruly behaviour on the S1. For the S2 Elise, a specific front tyre was produced which was narrower for wet performance, but softer to offset this disadvantage in the dry.

[Ken Figenus]

noble12345 said:

Ferrari wont like you saying that about their cars, or are you talking about Porsche?

Ferraris usually sound quite zingy! Rear engined Porsches sound pants as served from the factory - a dealbreaker Its is the worst feature on an otherwise excellent car.