RE: 'Brand new' Peugeot 309 GTI heads to auction

RE: 'Brand new' Peugeot 309 GTI heads to auction

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Wiccan of Darkness

1,839 posts

84 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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These things go like utter stink but with so few remaining, even with the bodged arse jobbie and rear quarter panels and missing trim it's worth it as an investment.

I had a 1.4 one during my uni/pizza days - paid £800 for it with 30k on the clock and it died from head gasket failure after the fanbelt snapped.

Apart from the hilarious incident where the exhaust fell off and fired through the radiator of the moron tailgating me, it never missed a beat and hummed sweetly on a daily basis as I added 100k to the clock.

Loved mine, very deep and wallowy, munching miles in unrivaled opulent comfort.

Worth pointing out the rear wiper, the 309's didn't have them as standard (bugged me when I bought the car) but the way the rear of the car is shaped, they never needed a rear wiper. Never got dirty, or wet.

Lot of fun memories from mine, and some great laughs - such as the time a bag of corn fell over in the boot and I was too lazy to sweep it up and it got wet from the rain; opened the boot a few weeks later to be met with a foot high carpet of lush green lawn sprouting.

Ahh yes. Happy days.

s m

23,243 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Wiccan of Darkness said:
These things go like utter stink but with so few remaining, even with the bodged arse jobbie and rear quarter panels and missing trim it's worth it as an investment.

I had a 1.4 one during my uni/pizza days - paid £800 for it with 30k on the clock and it died from head gasket failure after the fanbelt snapped.

Apart from the hilarious incident where the exhaust fell off and fired through the radiator of the moron tailgating me, it never missed a beat and hummed sweetly on a daily basis as I added 100k to the clock.

Loved mine, very deep and wallowy, munching miles in unrivaled opulent comfort.

Worth pointing out the rear wiper, the 309's didn't have them as standard (bugged me when I bought the car) but the way the rear of the car is shaped, they never needed a rear wiper. Never got dirty, or wet.

Lot of fun memories from mine, and some great laughs - such as the time a bag of corn fell over in the boot and I was too lazy to sweep it up and it got wet from the rain; opened the boot a few weeks later to be met with a foot high carpet of lush green lawn sprouting.

Ahh yes. Happy days.
Although that 'slow old' ST24 for 5k would leave you wondering where it had gone!


Also, they should have a rear wiper as standard - mine certainly did



Maybe yours was ‘de-wipered’?

Edited by s m on Wednesday 16th January 18:20

ATG

20,616 posts

273 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Many moons ago an acquaintance of mine passed his driving test and immediately bought one of these. The car was pretty hideous to look at, but it was impressively nippy and nimble. And his driving was terrible. I had a terrifying journeys from London to Dartmoor and back. The highlight was repeatedly stalling while trying to reverse uphill out of a bay in a steeply sloping parking lot somewhere in the middle of Dartmoor. With each failure to reverse we rolled forward closer and closer to a 20ft drop into the river. Oh happy days. Rarely have I witnessed such a mismatch between a car's and a driver's ability. Which reminds me of the time another acquaintance's girl friend squealed "oooh, bunnies" and swerved a Mk2 Golf GTI tooling along at 80 through the earlier hours of the morning in the Cotswolds towards a drystone wall.

Omega1987

38 posts

73 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Limpet said:
All the hot Peugeots in the 80s and 90s had a really impressive combination of handling and ride quality. The quality and calibration of the damping was incredible. Great body control, yet you barely felt the bumps. A lost art, and more relevant than ever on today's dilapidated roads.
They've re learnt the art on the new hot Peugeots.

masey123

14 posts

147 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Looks like typical french panel gap had a 205 gti in 1988 it fell to pieces

Stone Cold

1,545 posts

174 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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I am soooo tempted I had a white one and my youngest daughter (now a few weeks off 22) was almost born in it biggrin

J4CKO

41,635 posts

201 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Seems reasonable as essentially its a brand new car, a modern Peugeot would be what 20k for a comparable size sort of thing. Could buy this and just use it as a retro daily after a bit of recommissioning/good check over.

I didnt notice anything wrong with the boot, I thought they all looked a bit like that, I had a 1.3 "Look" and it was great little car.

The 309 lived in the shadow of the 205 but it was a better car in a lot of ways, more space, not really any slower and a bit more forgiving, 3 door was better looking but there isnt a 131 mile 3 door 309 or 205 GTI 1.9 on offer, cant see those extra doors when you are driving it either.




ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

126 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Omega1987 said:
Limpet said:
All the hot Peugeots in the 80s and 90s had a really impressive combination of handling and ride quality. The quality and calibration of the damping was incredible. Great body control, yet you barely felt the bumps. A lost art, and more relevant than ever on today's dilapidated roads.
They've re learnt the art on the new hot Peugeots.
even the XUD diesels handled....

Strugs

512 posts

230 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Owned two of these at once, a Phase 1 and a Phase 2, when I was 20ish (imagine trying to get insurance at that age on something like this nowadays!) and absolutely adored them. Would love to have a drive of one now, to see if they're as good as I remember. Had a 306 GTi-6 and a Citroen ZX 16v (find one of those now!) later in life but neither quite got under my skin as much as the 309..

The Vambo

6,648 posts

142 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Jon_S_Rally said:
I think I must be weird, but I would probably take one of these over a 205 GTI. There's just something about them. I like the fact they're a bit of an oddball and unloved. A Euro 205 Rallye would trump it, but the 309 GTI is really cool in my eyes.
I agree exept a Euro 309 GTI 16 would trump even a rallye.

The Vambo

6,648 posts

142 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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s m said:
Although that 'slow old' ST24 for 5k would leave you wondering where it had gone!
You mean that ST24 with 129 Bhp/Ton and the 309 GTi with 134 Bhp/Ton?

You would be wondering where the old slow car went but not in the way you thought.

_Leg_

2,798 posts

212 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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That 205 Gti that is linked to in the article has been at David Hayton's for at least 2 years unsold. It was there when I took a mate to collect his new Exige in early 2017.

lord trumpton

7,406 posts

127 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Yeah I nearly bought this car a few years ago.

It's owned by a nice old chap who unfortunately suffers from an illness and his daughter was involved in selling.

Last time it was featured it was on Facebook too and the daughter was subject to all sorts of snide abuse and she was really upset about it - she was very apprehensive talking to me at first but she was a kind person who loved her dad.

The did appear to be some paint issues and rumour of a pre delivery accident but the owner has nothing to do with any of it and the accidient rumour has no conclusive proof either.

I wish them all the best with the sale and hopefully it goes through for good money.

Mr Tidy

22,421 posts

128 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Only Stevie Wonder could prefer this to a 205 - 309s were mingers!

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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^^ The looks weren't so fugly in the 90's.

Thus far the positive comments come from people who have owned and driven one, or both GTI's. Experience always wins over opinion.



ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

126 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Surprised that in this condition that Peugeot arent interested for their heritage collection (unless they have one).

Sure that squiffy tailgate can be corrected easy enough. Love the way some people jump all over that like its been written off - get over yourselves I mean look at it!

s m

23,243 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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The Vambo said:
s m said:
Although that 'slow old' ST24 for 5k would leave you wondering where it had gone!
You mean that ST24 with 129 Bhp/Ton and the 309 GTi with 134 Bhp/Ton?

You would be wondering where the old slow car went but not in the way you thought.
It's always interesting perceptions of how fast something is.


In truth, that V6 Mondeo is about 4 or 5 seconds faster to 100 - after they hit 50 or 60 in much the same time it would drive away from the 309, take my word for it

M666 EVO

1,124 posts

163 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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I had an identical 309, cherry red, 4 door on a K plate. When I first got it there was a slight lumpiness to the idle so I turned it up to idle around 1000 rpm, thus making it start up like a rally car. It also made it proper quick off the line. It was superb around corners too.

I was lucky enough to drive 205 1.9s/1.6s back in the day too and the 309 handled better. Its probably my favourite car that I have owned due to handling, the fact I was only 22 with zero money cares and it didn't miss a beat - ever.

Plus I think it looked cool against the plethora of hatches around at the time...

I ended up stacking it into the central reservation. Insurance paid out the full £1500 I paid for it due to the fact the rims were spotless.

Baldchap

7,678 posts

93 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Hol said:
Experience always wins over opinion.
Absolutely the single most sensible post on all of PH.

evojam

575 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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lord trumpton said:
Yeah I nearly bought this car a few years ago.

It's owned by a nice old chap who unfortunately suffers from an illness and his daughter was involved in selling.

Last time it was featured it was on Facebook too and the daughter was subject to all sorts of snide abuse and she was really upset about it - she was very apprehensive talking to me at first but she was a kind person who loved her dad.

The did appear to be some paint issues and rumour of a pre delivery accident but the owner has nothing to do with any of it and the accidient rumour has no conclusive proof either.

I wish them all the best with the sale and hopefully it goes through for good money.
That's quite sad to hear and I really do hope they achieve a good price for it,deserves it...auction has no doubt guided it low to get hands waving and will do more than that for sure,unique example! was just speaking to French collector pal of mine,he's just said he'd happily pay upto 20k for it.