RE: Porsche 911 Carrera S (992): Driven

[Helicopter123]

323ti said:

The proportions on the 992 are just hopeless, especially with ridiculous 21 inch wheels at the back.
It's like the rear has been blown up 25 percent,
leaving the nose of the car looking tiny.

Disagree, I think it’s a great looking car.

[s2000db]

breadvan said:

It’s the same engine size and output of a M3 CP and I miss the day when they were rivals. £100k + is quite a lot for the “run of the mill” version.

Sounds very promising for the Turbo and GT cars though.

Good point, power, torque and weight are almost identical to a M3/4..
So at £100k there’s no wonder that they’re the most profitable volume car going!

While yes they’ll be a lot quicker on the track, in the real world they’ll be not much in it..

[Maldini35]

Helicopter123 said:

323ti said:

The proportions on the 992 are just hopeless, especially with ridiculous 21 inch wheels at the back.
It's like the rear has been blown up 25 percent,
leaving the nose of the car looking tiny.

Disagree, I think it’s a great looking car.

I have to agree - it's a fabulous looking thing in my eyes.

[TaylotS2K]

Love this. And finally the interior has been updated.

[sidesauce]

Maldini35 said:

Helicopter123 said:

323ti said:

The proportions on the 992 are just hopeless, especially with ridiculous 21 inch wheels at the back.
It's like the rear has been blown up 25 percent,
leaving the nose of the car looking tiny.

Disagree, I think it’s a great looking car.

I have to agree - it's a fabulous looking thing in my eyes.

Not quite sure how the nose looks tiny - to my eyes it has a really nice sense of symmetry in that profile shot. I think it looks great!

[Midgster]

sidesauce said:

Maldini35 said:

Helicopter123 said:

323ti said:

The proportions on the 992 are just hopeless, especially with ridiculous 21 inch wheels at the back.
It's like the rear has been blown up 25 percent,
leaving the nose of the car looking tiny.

Disagree, I think it’s a great looking car.

I have to agree - it's a fabulous looking thing in my eyes.

Not quite sure how the nose looks tiny - to my eyes it has a really nice sense of symmetry in that profile shot. I think it looks great!

Me three (or is it four?)

[Nerdherder]

Midgster said:

sidesauce said:

Maldini35 said:

Helicopter123 said:

323ti said:

The proportions on the 992 are just hopeless, especially with ridiculous 21 inch wheels at the back.
It's like the rear has been blown up 25 percent,
leaving the nose of the car looking tiny.

Disagree, I think it’s a great looking car.

I have to agree - it's a fabulous looking thing in my eyes.

Not quite sure how the nose looks tiny - to my eyes it has a really nice sense of symmetry in that profile shot. I think it looks great!

Me three (or is it four?)

I'll join so we can claim we got five on it.

[Krikkit]

Maldini35 said:

Helicopter123 said:

323ti said:

The proportions on the 992 are just hopeless, especially with ridiculous 21 inch wheels at the back.
It's like the rear has been blown up 25 percent,
leaving the nose of the car looking tiny.

Disagree, I think it’s a great looking car.

I have to agree - it's a fabulous looking thing in my eyes.

I think that one in particular looks great too! That said, I find it very undesirable - too capable, too fast. I know you would never be wringing out a 996 or 997 to 10/10ths on the road, but you could at least give it a bit of shove.

The whole turbocharged thing means they're crazy fast now which removes the appeal for me, never mind the massive price.

[Conders4008]

amazing how 1600kgs (with a driver) & 450bhp now equates to 0-60 time of 3.6 seconds,, seems odd.

[J4CKO]

NicoG said:

arkenphel said:

Very nice car, but it seems Porsche is not immune to the whole "decreased feedback with every model " thing.

I suppose they save that for the GT cars, whereas the carreras are aimed at a different clientele

Since the 991, the 911 Carrera including the 'S' has increasingly morphed into the GT of the range, less and less raw and incisive handling, leaving the Cayster and 918 when the 996 / 997 were, chuckable and involving....

This new 992 seem to continue that departure of the Carrera to become a GT car, however adept it would appear to be on a track...

Paradoxically however, the GT variants of the 911, and anything but Grand Tourers !

As another poster has said, the Carrera S is (I think) now a mere 3 tenths off of a 991 (yes NINE NINE ONE) TURBO to 62mph.
The progress is astonishing.

What do we expect for the 992 Turbo S? - 2.6 Seconds?

I suppose when one consider the on-paper performance figures of the Carrera S to the previous Gen Turbos and ignores the letters fitted to the back of the car, it makes the relentless march toward a £100K "base Carrera" seem a bit easier to swallow, given turbos have long since been north of 6-figures

Edited by NicoG on Thursday 17th January 08:17

Edited by NicoG on Thursday 17th January 08:37

Its pointless, and its not like it was slow before but its very interesting to see what the next one will do if the standard model is that quick.

991 Turbo S did 6.2 to 100 mph which is pretty mind boggling, have been in one and it was incredible. Sixty was between 2.5 and 2.9 seconds depending on who was testing it.

Be interesting to see where they can go from there, into the low twos for 0-60 ? I think its tyres and physics now that is the limitation but would be surprised if Porsche dont manage to knock a little bit off the times. The 911 Turbo has amazing traction being rear engined, with wide tyres and 4wd so I reckon we may see it matching a Tesla.

To 100 mph, I would say a Veyron matching 5.7.

I like how it looks as well, Porsche know their market.

[MX6]

Nerdherder said:

Midgster said:

sidesauce said:

Maldini35 said:

Helicopter123 said:

323ti said:

The proportions on the 992 are just hopeless, especially with ridiculous 21 inch wheels at the back.
It's like the rear has been blown up 25 percent,
leaving the nose of the car looking tiny.

Disagree, I think it’s a great looking car.

I have to agree - it's a fabulous looking thing in my eyes.

Not quite sure how the nose looks tiny - to my eyes it has a really nice sense of symmetry in that profile shot. I think it looks great!

Me three (or is it four?)

I'll join so we can claim we got five on it.

I know we had the usual PH negativity to the press release pic's, but I have to agree with the above, for me this is a great looking car. A really clean, curvy sports car shape still, no over-styled nonsence. I really like the new wrap around rear lights, reminiscent of older 911's. The only detail that I'm not particularly taken with is the extensive black plastic areas in the bumpers, though I know this is a current car design fashion and does look better with darker paint colours.

[Deep]

Looks gorgeous, I suspect it will look even better in the flesh.

[Maxus]

I think the 992 looks great from many angles. The rump is a bit bulbous (particularly noticeable on the convertible). I don't get why Porsche position the number plate low in the rear bumper. It almost exaggerates this. A bit like the original Panamera v the latest versions where they raised the number plate into the tailgate and made the rear look more pert. Excuse the paint skills but this is what I mean.
I'd still love one, especially in Guards Red.

[PhilLL]

Porsche have already thought of that, and will happily charge you for the privilege

[WCZ]

the problem is it's £100k without options, get on the configurator and imo it's hard to make a good spec under £120k

price for everything seem nuts these days anyway £70k for an amg c class for ex

[Terminator X]

As nice as it is and looks, who is it buying all these £100k cars?!

TX.

[MX6]

...as for how this drives, no surprises to read that it's typically very well engineered and an objective improvement on the 991 in pretty much all aspects. Also no surprises that it is a massively capable machine, maybe too capable to be fully enjoyed as a road car. Even the base model is now a proper supercar and ballistically quick in historical terms.

Yes I'd obviously love one of these or similar if I had the means, but realistically a 718 Cayman or more so a Cayman S is more than ample in performance terms for a road going sports car (in my view) and at almost half the price would be my prefered choice. If this performance escalation continues with the 911 pushing into the stratosphere and the Cayman moving up to fill the void vacated underneath, then maybe a space will open up at the bottom end again for a new small lightweight car, perhaps in the vein of the 914/924...

[Helicopter123]

Conders4008 said:

amazing how 1600kgs (with a driver) & 450bhp now equates to 0-60 time of 3.6 seconds,, seems odd.

The F40 was 478 bhp, 1369 kg and did 0-62 in 4.7.

Shows the benefit of improved traction off the line from all the modern tech?

[Maxus]

PhilLL said:

Porsche have already thought of that, and will happily charge you for the privilege

Haha.... at £3k what a privilege it is. Gives them something to do for the facelift I guess.

[Nerdherder]

WCZ said:

the problem is it's £100k without options, get on the configurator and imo it's hard to make a good spec under £120k

price for everything seem nuts these days anyway £70k for an amg c class for ex

Depends on what you perceive as a good spec. I love the look of the wood trim and Burmester is a must for me. Some paint, and other than that bog standard. Still very near the 100k mark.