RE: Skoda Kodiaq vRS: Driven
Discussion
I had a Passat for a while with the same engine, and that was reasonably entertaining in a 'ride an enormous mountain of unexpected torque' kind of way, if not fun to give a good thrashing (true of all diesels IME)
The fuel economy wasn't a patch on the less powerful 190PS version of the same engine though. I'm surprised that Skoda didn't fit the 280PS TSI engine from the Superb. I doubt there's be much difference in real-world economy.
The fuel economy wasn't a patch on the less powerful 190PS version of the same engine though. I'm surprised that Skoda didn't fit the 280PS TSI engine from the Superb. I doubt there's be much difference in real-world economy.
DoubleD said:
g7jhp said:
Octavia vRs estate or Superb estate are better options. Still don't get the obsession with SUVs!
But you get the obsession with estates?I seem to have stayed at a lot of places where my bra scrapes going up access roads, and I th8nk I can take a softer ride, with a bit of oomph over the Octavia VRS... and anyway, the Octavia VRS isn't the last word in handling!!
I was looking at a (non vrs) kodiaq when i took my car for a servoce and they are massive! I guess the tiguan or Ateca are a bit smaller.
I'm sure it's a good car, but if you care about fast and practical, a Superb 280 is more powerful, several grand cheaper, is lighter, sounds better, is more handsome, is substantially faster and probably has more practical boot space.
Probably not much in it for real world fuel costs, either, although maybe the Superb is a bit worse for cruising worse due to missing the seven speed box with a tall top cog. No seven seats either, of course, but if you don't need them I personally think you'd be mad.
Probably not much in it for real world fuel costs, either, although maybe the Superb is a bit worse for cruising worse due to missing the seven speed box with a tall top cog. No seven seats either, of course, but if you don't need them I personally think you'd be mad.
Shame they've finally got a Fabia that would look really great in VRS trim with the Polo GTI engine but it is this that gets the VRS treatment.
They'll sell a few, maybe also into Emergency Services fleets, but doubt it'll put a dent in the sales of X5s or XC90s etc who I would guess still have a badge snob audience.
They'll sell a few, maybe also into Emergency Services fleets, but doubt it'll put a dent in the sales of X5s or XC90s etc who I would guess still have a badge snob audience.
vrsmxtb said:
Shame they've finally got a Fabia that would look really great in VRS trim with the Polo GTI engine but it is this that gets the VRS treatment.
They'll sell a few, maybe also into Emergency Services fleets, but doubt it'll put a dent in the sales of X5s or XC90s etc who I would guess still have a badge snob audience.
Don't think it's badge snobbery; rather it's the thought of paying well over the annual average salary of the nation on white goods with not that much power and a tractor engine.They'll sell a few, maybe also into Emergency Services fleets, but doubt it'll put a dent in the sales of X5s or XC90s etc who I would guess still have a badge snob audience.
Gez79 said:
Shambler said:
You’ve written it has 0.8 litres less displacement when it has 0.2 more
And the original vrs Octavia had 173lb ft or so of torque so this actually has 200lb ft more too not 130lb ft quotedarcticnick said:
Might have gone under the radar, but a new Volvo XC60 T5 is cheaper, quicker, faster and a lot nicer inside and out.
(Only 5 seats though)
Quicker and faster? Amazing. (Only 5 seats though)
Also amazing is that despite it only seating 5 persons, its probably a real world 100kg heavier. So not convinced it's quicker with just 10hp more and less torque...
And not sure it will be cheaper with the same equipment after the honeymoon period when discounts come in.
XC60 is a very nice car nevertheless, just not thát superior...
Edited by Onehp on Saturday 19th January 21:03
I know someone always makes a comment like this and I know I will get flak for it but...
A quick look at Autotrader reveals a 2015 Mercedes ML63 AMG starts at around £36k. £40k will get you a low-mileage example with plenty of options ticked, and save £2k to pay for a few years of warranty. Alternatively, spend a bit less on a slightly older model and save the difference for borkage. So that is similar money for:
a full-size SUV with a 518bhp 5.5 TT V8, a proper transfer case 4x4 and a
bodykit
OR
a mini-SUV with a 2.0TDi, a viscous coupling 4x4 and a bodykit
Yes, I am tight. I haven't bought a new car since 2001 but I appreciate that the idea of a 3-4 year old Merc will not appeal to those who must have a new car. I just find it amazing that people look at something like this and think "hmmm, £42k for a 4-pot diesel Skoda? Erm, where do I sign?!".
ETA sorry, I meant to say "a bodykit targeted to embody the design cues favoured by nomadic folk of Irish extraction"... not " bodykit".
A quick look at Autotrader reveals a 2015 Mercedes ML63 AMG starts at around £36k. £40k will get you a low-mileage example with plenty of options ticked, and save £2k to pay for a few years of warranty. Alternatively, spend a bit less on a slightly older model and save the difference for borkage. So that is similar money for:
a full-size SUV with a 518bhp 5.5 TT V8, a proper transfer case 4x4 and a
bodykitOR
a mini-SUV with a 2.0TDi, a viscous coupling 4x4 and a
bodykit Yes, I am tight. I haven't bought a new car since 2001 but I appreciate that the idea of a 3-4 year old Merc will not appeal to those who must have a new car. I just find it amazing that people look at something like this and think "hmmm, £42k for a 4-pot diesel Skoda? Erm, where do I sign?!".
ETA sorry, I meant to say "a bodykit targeted to embody the design cues favoured by nomadic folk of Irish extraction"... not "
bodykit". Edited by donkmeister on Saturday 19th January 21:08
donkmeister said:
Yes, I am tight. I haven't bought a new car since 2001 but I appreciate that the idea of a 3-4 year old Merc will not appeal to those who must have a new car. I just find it amazing that people look at something like this and think "hmmm, £42k for a 4-pot diesel Skoda? Erm, where do I sign?!".
You can spend an awful lot more than that on a four-pot diesel Land Rover and I know which I'd expect to be the more reliable, better built car. 
Personally I don't buy new so new cars always seem to be crazily priced to me, but this seems decent value compared to its obvious competition.
donkmeister said:
mini-SUV with a 2.0TDi, a viscous coupling 4x4 and a bodykit
Slightly mispresenting, it is a Ttdi (two turbos here also), has an electronically controlled wet clutch (not viscous), but I get your point. May I also suggest the usual, running costs won't be comparable. At all. Ok for 5k miles/annum. Not for 25k... bodykit herebebeasties said:
Probably not much in it for real world fuel costs, either, although maybe the Superb is a bit worse for cruising worse due to missing the seven speed box with a tall top cog.
That's been fixed for the 2019 model year Superbs. My TSI 272 (it lost 8PS due to EU6b particulate filters) has the 7 speed gearbox, and it turns at 2krpm at 70mph, quite a lot lower than the earlier 280. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff