RE: Mercedes-AMG GT 63 S 4-door Coupe: UK Drive
Discussion
st4 said:
The Panamera starts at a much higher starting point and really is a lovely lovely thing.
We'll probably see the VAG MSB platform used in considerably cheaper cars at some point in the future as well... will that somehow make the Panamera a worse car when it happens? I can't say I really understand the aversion to platform sharing. The platform is only one minor part of what make a car. Don't forget "platform" these days tends to define where the engine sits relative to the firewall, steering rack and front axle and not a great deal else. We're not in the 60s where manufacturers simply bolt different bodies onto the same chassis to produce different cars.
st4 said:
Robert-nszl1 said:
Yes these will be bought on PCPs, but none the less it must be a candidate for the fastest depreciating car currently built. Maybe alongside the new M8. On the basis you can get a 2016 M6 gran coupe for a little over £40k retail (£30-35k trade?) it will be interesting to see where these get to in 2-3 years.
M760i and any v12 S class - although as a car both are preferable day to day being more luxurious and built around a more expensive platform. You could be right and I suspect many will bauk when they learn it’s an “e class” under the skin.
Whilst I accept the point from the chap who bought the Panamera that in a straight comparison the Porsche came out on top for perceived quality I genuinely don’t believe that as many potential buyers care about tne underpinnings in the same way that certain forum observers do.
Brooking10 said:
st4 said:
Robert-nszl1 said:
Yes these will be bought on PCPs, but none the less it must be a candidate for the fastest depreciating car currently built. Maybe alongside the new M8. On the basis you can get a 2016 M6 gran coupe for a little over £40k retail (£30-35k trade?) it will be interesting to see where these get to in 2-3 years.
M760i and any v12 S class - although as a car both are preferable day to day being more luxurious and built around a more expensive platform. You could be right and I suspect many will bauk when they learn it’s an “e class” under the skin.
Whilst I accept the point from the chap who bought the Panamera that in a straight comparison the Porsche came out on top for perceived quality I genuinely don’t believe that as many potential buyers care about tne underpinnings in the same way that certain forum observers do.
Robert-nszl1 said:
For me it's not so much the platform sharing that is the issue, it's the fact that this is being sold as a 4 door version of the GT sports car, when all it is is a (rather heavy) tarted up E class. Had the CLS never existed, I don't think this would matter so much, but like the new M8 being an expensive update of an M6, this rather cynical badge engineering will detract from the desirability of the car. Not for everyone, and as a purchase 2-3 years down the line it will have its attractions, but to those that can afford one, that do have an interest in cars, and that do care a bit about pouring tens of thousands of £ down the drain this stuff matters!
Maybe and I get the GT point.I’m going to test one and see what it’s like.
Review says it’s a better drive than the E63s and I enjoy that greatly.
Proof will be in the pudding.....
..... and hopefully big discounts
Brooking10 said:
st4 said:
Robert-nszl1 said:
Yes these will be bought on PCPs, but none the less it must be a candidate for the fastest depreciating car currently built. Maybe alongside the new M8. On the basis you can get a 2016 M6 gran coupe for a little over £40k retail (£30-35k trade?) it will be interesting to see where these get to in 2-3 years.
M760i and any v12 S class - although as a car both are preferable day to day being more luxurious and built around a more expensive platform. You could be right and I suspect many will bauk when they learn it’s an “e class” under the skin.
Whilst I accept the point from the chap who bought the Panamera that in a straight comparison the Porsche came out on top for perceived quality I genuinely don’t believe that as many potential buyers care about tne underpinnings in the same way that certain forum observers do.
I think it's very easy to read a review and just say, 'how can it cost that much when it's only based on an E Class' but I suspect the link to the E Class would be undetectable by the vast, vast majority of drivers. I can't imagine any RR buyer would care about the 7 series DNA, particularly when it's really just structure (760i aside).
Mosdef said:
I agree with you. I don't think the platform and underpinnings are necessarily the issue but the fact that with an E63, M5, RS6 etc, the interior is just a tarted up rep mobile, is off putting and a presents a big point of difference between cars like this AMG GT and the Panamera. This car should be quite different to an E63 in terms of what the driver can see, touch, feel etc and if it feels more expensive - which it probably does - the comparisons and arguments about underpinnings and so on should be less relevant.
I think it's very easy to read a review and just say, 'how can it cost that much when it's only based on an E Class' but I suspect the link to the E Class would be undetectable by the vast, vast majority of drivers. I can't imagine any RR buyer would care about the 7 series DNA, particularly when it's really just structure (760i aside).
Which is lovely, except for the top half of the dash being lifted straight out of an E Class, with added gay disco, and the centre console being a complete fI think it's very easy to read a review and just say, 'how can it cost that much when it's only based on an E Class' but I suspect the link to the E Class would be undetectable by the vast, vast majority of drivers. I can't imagine any RR buyer would care about the 7 series DNA, particularly when it's really just structure (760i aside).
king abhorration that looks like it was lifted right out of a different car. The only question I would ask, sitting in the thing with my corneas burning from the neon party attack, would be where the frig did my sanity go?
janesmith1950 said:
Mosdef said:
I agree with you. I don't think the platform and underpinnings are necessarily the issue but the fact that with an E63, M5, RS6 etc, the interior is just a tarted up rep mobile, is off putting and a presents a big point of difference between cars like this AMG GT and the Panamera. This car should be quite different to an E63 in terms of what the driver can see, touch, feel etc and if it feels more expensive - which it probably does - the comparisons and arguments about underpinnings and so on should be less relevant.
I think it's very easy to read a review and just say, 'how can it cost that much when it's only based on an E Class' but I suspect the link to the E Class would be undetectable by the vast, vast majority of drivers. I can't imagine any RR buyer would care about the 7 series DNA, particularly when it's really just structure (760i aside).
Which is lovely, except for the top half of the dash being lifted straight out of an E Class, with added gay disco, and the centre console being a complete fI think it's very easy to read a review and just say, 'how can it cost that much when it's only based on an E Class' but I suspect the link to the E Class would be undetectable by the vast, vast majority of drivers. I can't imagine any RR buyer would care about the 7 series DNA, particularly when it's really just structure (760i aside).
king abhorration that looks like it was lifted right out of a different car. The only question I would ask, sitting in the thing with my corneas burning from the neon party attack, would be where the frig did my sanity go?
I don't think this car would be for me but I'll reserve judgement until I get to sit in it.
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