RE: Ford Focus RS50 EVO on sale from £85k
Discussion
Gixer_fan said:
Thing is that back in the day RS fords were usually affordable to the point where your average working class punter could aspire to ownership. Yes they were a bit rough and unrefined in some areas but had relatively good performance, and maintenance was simple. They gave a good bang for buck, and it didn't matter if you abused or damaged them as repairs were cheap. I guess we're in vastly different times now ...
I don’t think many average working class punters ever bought RS200s 35 or so years ago. People can still buy the normal RS Focus for well under the price of this - just like the RS Turbo/ RS Sierra etc was available when you could buy an RS200
pangster79 said:
Sinking £85k in an unreliable Ford... Where do I sign up!!! Lol
Seems odd to comment on things that you obviously have absolutely no idea about. Nothing unreliable about these cars now the recalls have been carried out. I don't consider all f30 BMWs unreliable just because there is a recall that needs to be tended to by the dealers.
s m said:
Gixer_fan said:
Thing is that back in the day RS fords were usually affordable to the point where your average working class punter could aspire to ownership. Yes they were a bit rough and unrefined in some areas but had relatively good performance, and maintenance was simple. They gave a good bang for buck, and it didn't matter if you abused or damaged them as repairs were cheap. I guess we're in vastly different times now ...
I don’t think many average working class punters ever bought RS200s 35 or so years ago. People can still buy the normal RS Focus for well under the price of this - just like the RS Turbo/ RS Sierra etc was available when you could buy an RS200
Ahbefive said:
Seems odd to comment on things that you obviously have absolutely no idea about. Nothing unreliable about these cars now the recalls have been carried out.
I don't consider all f30 BMWs unreliable just because there is a recall that needs to be tended to by the dealers.
Ford are so lucky to have such a courageous and persistent white knight like you.I don't consider all f30 BMWs unreliable just because there is a recall that needs to be tended to by the dealers.
It's great it only took ford years to acknowledge they specced some important bits out of chocolate and she to put it right.
As for £85k for this thing, sure there'll be some wealthy from working class done good who'll love it. For me it's neither something to could drive nor something nice to own for owning a sake.
blade7 said:
I don't remember many work mates buying RS Sierras, especially if they had a mortgage and kids. They cost around a years wages back then. And mentioning an RS200 and this tuned up shopping car in the same sentence is just wrong.
It was more to make the point that not all RS cars were affordable for the average working class personMost RS were based on tuned up shopping/family cars however - Escorts, Fiestas, Sierras, Focus
janesmith1950 said:
Ahbefive said:
Seems odd to comment on things that you obviously have absolutely no idea about. Nothing unreliable about these cars now the recalls have been carried out.
I don't consider all f30 BMWs unreliable just because there is a recall that needs to be tended to by the dealers.
Ford are so lucky to have such a courageous and persistent white knight like you.I don't consider all f30 BMWs unreliable just because there is a recall that needs to be tended to by the dealers.
It's great it only took ford years to acknowledge they specced some important bits out of chocolate and she to put it right.
As for £85k for this thing, sure there'll be some wealthy from working class done good who'll love it. For me it's neither something to could drive nor something nice to own for owning a sake.
Absolutely nothing about the engines is made of chocolate. The head gasket issue was an issue with the head gasket (funny that given the description), and it had nothing to do with its material or design. It was instead due to errors in the production process (fitting of Mustang 2.3 gaskets to the RS head).
It’s more than can be said for Porsche who do actually make their engines from Chocolate (bore scoring in the 997/987 gen cars and GT3 engines that like to catch fire or seize) and VW who like to make Tubo’s on Golf Rs that do their own oil change through the bearing seal.
Having owned plenty of VAG products and a Cayman, the Ford has, quite honestly, been the most reliable and durable of the lot. The only issues I’ve really had have been with the dealers, not the car. It had a new engine under warranty due to the head gasket, but it’s not used a drop of oil or coolant now it’s got the right gasket in it.
Anyway, let’s not bother discussing much more. I have 380bhp rear biased 4WD hatch to go and drive which is far more appealing than arguing on here!
Ahbefive said:
Well, I love it. Maybe not £85k but I'd expect £25k is the exclusivity and the rest is the fancy mods.
I'd expect it to be an absolutely awesome car to drive but I doubt anyone will ever get to review one.
I'd rather spend £85k on this than on many cars which cost the same but will lose half of their value in the first 2years and likely be not as entertaining to drive.
The ironic things is how they drive is kind of irrelevant. Because they won't be.I'd expect it to be an absolutely awesome car to drive but I doubt anyone will ever get to review one.
I'd rather spend £85k on this than on many cars which cost the same but will lose half of their value in the first 2years and likely be not as entertaining to drive.
janesmith1950 said:
Ford are so lucky to have such a courageous and persistent white knight like you.
1: It's great it only took ford years to acknowledge they specced some important bits out of chocolate and she to put it right.
2: As for £85k for this thing, sure there'll be some wealthy from working class done good who'll love it. For me it's neither something to could drive nor something nice to own for owning a sake.
1: You obviously don't know anything about the car. Nothing was "made out of chocolate" and the recalls did not cost buyers anything. Everything was sorted in 2018 and the problem tended to rear its head late 2017 and early 2018. How is that "taking years"? Or do you struggle with the counting?1: It's great it only took ford years to acknowledge they specced some important bits out of chocolate and she to put it right.
2: As for £85k for this thing, sure there'll be some wealthy from working class done good who'll love it. For me it's neither something to could drive nor something nice to own for owning a sake.
2: What brand new car for a theoretical £85k would you prefer?
JMF894 said:
Ahbefive said:
Well, I love it. Maybe not £85k but I'd expect £25k is the exclusivity and the rest is the fancy mods.
I'd expect it to be an absolutely awesome car to drive but I doubt anyone will ever get to review one.
I'd rather spend £85k on this than on many cars which cost the same but will lose half of their value in the first 2years and likely be not as entertaining to drive.
The ironic things is how they drive is kind of irrelevant. Because they won't be.I'd expect it to be an absolutely awesome car to drive but I doubt anyone will ever get to review one.
I'd rather spend £85k on this than on many cars which cost the same but will lose half of their value in the first 2years and likely be not as entertaining to drive.
And it has a big boot for when you go to Asda. A bargain if ever I saw one.
And everyone knows the collector/investor market will still be shooting up for years to come.
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