RE: UK firm launches rugged Delica D:5 Terrain camper

[Blackpuddin]

Addymk2 said:

After looking at those prices... I've a feeling the VW Equivalents are taking a heavy slap of VW Scene Tax

Yep, VW prices are ridiculous.

[troika]

Blackpuddin said:

Addymk2 said:

After looking at those prices... I've a feeling the VW Equivalents are taking a heavy slap of VW Scene Tax

Yep, VW prices are ridiculous.

Total cost of ownership, total cost of ownership, total cost of ownership...

[Blackpuddin]

troika said:

Blackpuddin said:

Addymk2 said:

After looking at those prices... I've a feeling the VW Equivalents are taking a heavy slap of VW Scene Tax

Yep, VW prices are ridiculous.

Total cost of ownership, total cost of ownership, total cost of ownership...

Yah, sure, but not much use if you can't afford them in the first place!

[troika]

Blackpuddin said:

Yah, sure, but not much use if you can't afford them in the first place!

True, but if you are making a discretionary £30K purchase and can’t drum up another £10K to save you money overall, you probably shouldn’t be doing it in the first place! Of course, if you want to properly wild camp, crack on, it looks a beast! Horses for courses.

[austinsmirk]

from about 1990 into 2005, my friends and I used to head to the yorkshire dales/lakes (near by) or down to derbyshire, or scotland pretty much it seemed, most weekends.

going caving, climbing, walking, mtb, road cycling, kayaking etc etc.

using a combination of utter scrap to drive around in.

mainly a 70 and 72 aircooled vw campers, plus other lads on their motorbikes (with us dragging their gear in the campers)

seemed to manage all that pretty well without some chuffing lifestyle vehicle. or a need to post every second of it on moron book/instatt/ttter.

not that it existed of course then !

[unsprung]

austinsmirk said:

from about 1990 into 2005, my friends and I used to head to the yorkshire dales/lakes (near by) or down to derbyshire, or scotland pretty much it seemed, most weekends.

going caving, climbing, walking, mtb, road cycling, kayaking etc etc.

using a combination of utter scrap to drive around in.

mainly a 70 and 72 aircooled vw campers, plus other lads on their motorbikes (with us dragging their gear in the campers)

that sounds like fun and just the right amount of feral

in mainstream media there's arguably too much focus on the Southeast; bring on more of the big outdoors in Blighty

[Macboy]

Like others have said, what a shockingly poor PR campaign and launch. But the website - apart from being a design that's 10 years out of date - has some eye-watering prices. A near-100,000 mile 2004 Toyota Japanese import converted into a camper for considerably more than £20,000k. They are having a laugh.

[Some Guy]

We had a Delica L300 many years ago. Brilliant chunky little thing and surprisingly good off road too.
I dont think the newer ones have the same rugged looks.

[ben5575]

The L300 is great in an ironic retro kind of a way.

Here's my L300 camper at 2.2m tall with a 5" lift on 33" looking tiny next to some Thunderbirds metal.

Stands out in in a field of low VWs though...

[Mave]

Macboy said:

Like others have said, what a shockingly poor PR campaign and launch. But the website - apart from being a design that's 10 years out of date - has some eye-watering prices. A near-100,000 mile 2004 Toyota Japanese import converted into a camper for considerably more than £20,000k. They are having a laugh.

£20,000K? That's a lot of extra box ticking.....

[tighnamara]

luggie said:

There’s a t6 camper on the forecourt of my local vw van centre for 70k! Seventy thousand pounds! Thought I was seeing things hahaha

They are unbelievably expensive but residual value is very high.

[Fetchez la vache]

Some Guy said:

We had a Delica L300 many years ago. Brilliant chunky little thing and surprisingly good off road too.
I dont think the newer ones have the same rugged looks.

They're massive though. That's a Great Dane in the picture...

Seriously though always had a soft sport for the Delica. As a T5 owner I'd be interested if they actually has a link to click on. I use mine mostly for MTB trips away and some of the roads I go on can be pretty crappy / not roads at all.

[The Cardinal]

I'm sure this is a lovely camper, but to compare it with a new VW California is some way off the mark.

For an arguably more reasonable reference, our Danbury conversion of a 2013 VW T5.1 cost £33k in mid-2016. Obviously the Delica comes with lots of stuff like 4WD etc, but balanced against it being a conversion an older base vehicle.

[st4]

Blackpuddin said:

Yep, VW prices are ridiculous.

The whole "campervan" industry is ridiculous as are the pretend outdoorsy people who drive them IMHO.

Who'd pay 38k for a second hand diesel van or willingly sink thousands converting some old rust bucket with a lousy 2litre diesel engine. They are so massively priced at a premium compared to the vans they actually are and have horrific NVH characteristics because they are, well vans.

You could get a nice 7 series and sleep in the back of that or a Mondeo estate and tens of thousands of change to spend on that stretchy outdoor clothing camper van types seem to wear.

Campervans remain the most ridiculous vehicles on our road. I detest them with all my being.

Edited by st4 on Thursday 31st January 16:04

[st4]

NickGibbs said:

This Toyota hybrid one is £32,995 for a 2007 model http://www.campers-scotland.com/sales_campervans/c...
I guess the base Delica is a similar vintage. The D8 has been around since 2007. Here's one for £10k

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

£34k buys an LS460 Lexus (and a much much newer one than that old heap) with enough change to stay in hotels, self catering or Air B&B.

I travel and stay out a lot but never in a month of Sundays could I bring myself to pay £34k for a 10yr old van.

[Teddy Lop]

DelicaL400 said:

The previous generation of Delica made a pretty good camper, especially with proper offroad tyres. I wonder why Mitsubishi have never sold them here given the increase in the popularity of SUVs.

I pondered the same thing when I had my l400 years ago, it's a unique vehicle so itd have to have some market, plus with the amount of flash well to to tradies you see in crew pickups, sporty vans etc you think the van version would sell well too.

[JMF894]

st4 said:

The whole "campervan" industry is ridiculous as are the pretend outdoorsy people who drive them IMHO.

Who'd pay 38k for a second hand diesel van or willingly sink thousands converting some old rust bucket with a lousy 2litre diesel engine. They are so massively priced at a premium compared to the vans they actually are and have horrific NVH characteristics because they are, well vans.

You could get a nice 7 series and sleep in the back of that or a Mondeo estate and tens of thousands of change to spend on that stretchy outdoor clothing camper van types seem to wear.

Campervans remain the most ridiculous vehicles on our road. I detest them with all my being.

Edited by st4 on Thursday 31st January 16:04

I bet you have really lovely, soft hands

[bloomen]

st4 said:

You could get a nice 7 series and sleep in the back of that or a Mondeo estate and tens of thousands of change to spend on that stretchy outdoor clothing camper van types seem to wear.

Campervans remain the most ridiculous vehicles on our road. I detest them with all my being.

I also find it a very, very mysterious area. Why is a 20 year Ford or Bedford with some formica covered MDF and, if you're particularly unlucky, a nasty toilet still worth multiple times more than the boggo van?

I'd rather spend a grand or two on the finest tents, bedding and solar energy and stick them in a car.

I can see the sense in a massive RV. Anything below that would make me want to hang myself.

[JMF894]

st4 said:

£34k buys an LS460 Lexus (and a much much newer one than that old heap) with enough change to stay in hotels, self catering or Air B&B.

I travel and stay out a lot but never in a month of Sundays could I bring myself to pay £34k for a 10yr old van.

Talk about missing the point! It's a life style choice and hotels and ABNB etc have got sweet f***all to do with it

[troika]

st4 said:

The whole "campervan" industry is ridiculous as are the pretend outdoorsy people who drive them IMHO.

Who'd pay 38k for a second hand diesel van or willingly sink thousands converting some old rust bucket with a lousy 2litre diesel engine. They are so massively priced at a premium compared to the vans they actually are and have horrific NVH characteristics because they are, well vans.

You could get a nice 7 series and sleep in the back of that or a Mondeo estate and tens of thousands of change to spend on that stretchy outdoor clothing camper van types seem to wear.

Campervans remain the most ridiculous vehicles on our road. I detest them with all my being.

Edited by st4 on Thursday 31st January 16:04

I can’t stand Mondeos. A 7 is a nice car although it would be bloody uncomfortable to sleep in. I’ll stick with the California. Oh, and I don’t own any ‘stretchy outdoor clothing’. Each to their own.