RE: Ginetta confirms development of 600hp supercar

RE: Ginetta confirms development of 600hp supercar

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Geoffrey 321

236 posts

67 months

Friday 1st February 2019
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_Leg_ said:
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They’re further along, and with better quality and implementation than I imagined is all I can say. Both with regards to the car and their plans. What tomorrow will produce I couldn’t say but I wish them good fortune.
Any guess on cost?

isaldiri

18,626 posts

169 months

Friday 1st February 2019
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_Leg_ said:
What tomorrow will produce I couldn’t say but I wish them good fortune.
thumbup good to hear your thoughts on the car

lezdix

484 posts

157 months

Friday 1st February 2019
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_Leg_ said:
_Leg_ said:
Nope. They just aren't that kind of company. I raced a Ginetta for a season and I'm local to the factory so I got to know them quite well and visited many times. It's a race car factory, neither the people nor the company has the mindset nor set up to make high quality road cars.

We'll never see it. Just some headline grabbing.
Ginetta saw my post and invited me up to see the car. How wrong was I!

Epic looking thing and even in prototype guise it’s surprisingly well put together. Mechanically they have had it banging round circuits without any issues but trim etc wise I was really surprised at the quality. Shutting the doors gives a satisfying, solid ‘thunk’, panels (all carbon) already look like a full production car and the design looks great.

Made a nice change to see a new car that doesn’t actually look like anything else (beyond the given that a car has to have certain elements to be a car).

The rear is possibly the best I’ve seen on a new car in a long time. The front isn’t pretty but it looks pretty aggressive and impressive. Lots of wings and winglets, in and outtakes giving a distinct but coherent look. Personally I would paint the carbon light clusters body colour as with all the other carbon on show at the front there’s a little too much going on.

Interior wise things are a little less evolved at this stage but they have fixed (to the tub) seats with moving pedals and steering wheel. I sat in it (I’m 5’10”) and it fits like a glove. I reckon you would be fine up to 6’4” easily, maybe more.

The engine is mostly under the dash too so absolutely front mid engined. It’ll have more than the 600bhp quoted in this article and weigh less than most supercars so should be a beast to drive.

They’re taking it to Geneva for the full reveal so if you’re there make a point of going to see it. My chequebook is twitching.

I do some occasional YouTube/Facebooking when I can be bothered so hopefully I’ll get chance to do a proper review at some stage.

Hats off to em. I apologise for jumping to conclusions.


Edited by _Leg_ on Friday 1st February 12:27
Well said: I didn't get an invite... but it is a 5 hour round trip for me and it's snowing!
I drove up to the Sunday Service in my G33 it was a 4 fuel tank day and bloody cold.
I echo everything everyone says who's been there, they're really open and welcoming and tell you more about what's going on than any other company (We got to look through a window at the factory at Aston Martin!) and trust your word when sharing confidences. I and about 100 other Ginetta owners have known about this car since August last year and I've not seen a peep in the gossip/press about it. I began to think I'd imagined it.

I wish this project well and if it's a success then people may stop saying "What's a Ginetta?" to me when I rock up places!

_Leg_

2,798 posts

212 months

Friday 1st February 2019
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Geoffrey 321 said:
_Leg_ said:
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They’re further along, and with better quality and implementation than I imagined is all I can say. Both with regards to the car and their plans. What tomorrow will produce I couldn’t say but I wish them good fortune.
Any guess on cost?
Sorry, they want to announce that at Geneva mate.

Geoffrey 321

236 posts

67 months

Friday 1st February 2019
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_Leg_ said:
Geoffrey 321 said:
_Leg_ said:
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They’re further along, and with better quality and implementation than I imagined is all I can say. Both with regards to the car and their plans. What tomorrow will produce I couldn’t say but I wish them good fortune.
Any guess on cost?
Sorry, they want to announce that at Geneva mate.
Ok thanks, I'm just another possible purchaser smile

Jellinek

274 posts

276 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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My feeling is this will be priced to compete with the new TVR, possibly a little more circa 100k owing to the design equity of full carbon tub and panel construction versus the space frame / carbon panel approach. With the extra 2 year delay recently announced for the Griffith, they could realistically acquire a significant number of buyers from that project.
LNT was pipped at the post in buying TVR I think and bought Farbio, so clearly has an interest in purely road based sports cars. Maybe he also has a desire to leave behind an icon, like Lyons and the XKE or Enzo and the GTO....🤗
Very much looking forward to Geneva now, thanks to all for posting their insights, PH at its best.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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Jellinek said:
My feeling is this will be priced to compete with the new TVR, possibly a little more circa 100k owing to the design equity of full carbon tub and panel construction versus the space frame / carbon panel approach.
It would be impressive if a genuinely carbon tub'd car got into low (<500 units) volume production for anywhere near to £100k sticker price !

OK, the car is literally just 4 wheels and an engine with zero EFC, but still, the labour time and materials in a carbon tub is significant.

Jellinek

274 posts

276 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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Max_Torque said:
It would be impressive if a genuinely carbon tub'd car got into low (<500 units) volume production for anywhere near to £100k sticker price !

OK, the car is literally just 4 wheels and an engine with zero EFC, but still, the labour time and materials in a carbon tub is significant.
Agreed, it would be impressive but I think the Alfa 4C points to what is possible these days, carbon fibre is not the exotic material it once was, Here’s hoping &#129310;

_Leg_

2,798 posts

212 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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Max_Torque said:
Jellinek said:
My feeling is this will be priced to compete with the new TVR, possibly a little more circa 100k owing to the design equity of full carbon tub and panel construction versus the space frame / carbon panel approach.
It would be impressive if a genuinely carbon tub'd car got into low (<500 units) volume production for anywhere near to £100k sticker price !

OK, the car is literally just 4 wheels and an engine with zero EFC, but still, the labour time and materials in a carbon tub is significant.
Not a £100K car. I shall say no more. Apologies for the mystery, I was made to promise.

Geoffrey 321

236 posts

67 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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_Leg_ said:
Not a £100K car. I shall say no more. Apologies for the mystery, I was made to promise.
Ah good, something more special/faster I hope smile

Skyedriver

17,912 posts

283 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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cookie1600 said:
Robert-nszl1 said:
All we need now is Marcos to have another go and we can party like it's about 1992...
Owww, now there's a thought. I wonder who owns the trademark rights to Gilbern or Reliant Scimitar?
Or the Argyll?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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Jellinek said:
Max_Torque said:
It would be impressive if a genuinely carbon tub'd car got into low (<500 units) volume production for anywhere near to £100k sticker price !

OK, the car is literally just 4 wheels and an engine with zero EFC, but still, the labour time and materials in a carbon tub is significant.
Agreed, it would be impressive but I think the Alfa 4C points to what is possible these days, carbon fibre is not the exotic material it once was, Here’s hoping ??
4C is not only a >1k PA volume car, it also is from a major OE meaning they can share all the oily bits and critically all the EFC to effectively help pay for the tub!

Cold

15,254 posts

91 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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RumbleOfThunder

3,560 posts

204 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Oof it's not a looker. In fact it looks more race car than super car.

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Max_Torque said:
It would be impressive if a genuinely carbon tub'd car got into low (<500 units) volume production for anywhere near to £100k sticker price !

OK, the car is literally just 4 wheels and an engine with zero EFC, but still, the labour time and materials in a carbon tub is significant.
As I said back on page 2, they've developed a system of simple 'shallow draught' mouldings which are then bonded together, which I would anticipate they'll use on this car and might help to keep those costs down.

MDL111

6,981 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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had forgotten about this one - now looking forward to the price. Video looks good


MDL111

6,981 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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MDL111 said:
had forgotten about this one - now looking forward to the price. Video looks good
ah well, unfortunately way too much for me - still an interesting car though

Bahnstormer

934 posts

247 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Super-aggressive looks ! ....and I would never tyre of that noise !!

What a machine....well done chaps !

Geoffrey 321

236 posts

67 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Cold said:
Wow looks fine to me smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Equus said:
Max_Torque said:
It would be impressive if a genuinely carbon tub'd car got into low (<500 units) volume production for anywhere near to £100k sticker price !

OK, the car is literally just 4 wheels and an engine with zero EFC, but still, the labour time and materials in a carbon tub is significant.
As I said back on page 2, they've developed a system of simple 'shallow draught' mouldings which are then bonded together, which I would anticipate they'll use on this car and might help to keep those costs down.
£400k.... Like i said, carbon tubs don't come cheap at low volumes.........