RE: Mountune launches m400X map for Focus RS
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xjay1337 said:
Since you must be an expert there's no point explaining to you about it 
That, and we are all backward hat types....
I've worked with warranty before, tuning is a lot of hearsay, so if you have hard cases I'm happy to learn. That, and we are all backward hat types....
As for the hats. I want to believe that enthusiast know what they do, but as we have all seen I suppose, something happens when there is an opportunity to show off a bit for some of 'us'. Leaving the car park at whatever venue, giving it the beans, be bedamned if the engine is a bit cold... Some correlation may exist with the wearing of headwear and its position on the cranium ;p
hairykrishna said:
Ok. I've driven a Sierra Sappire Cosworth at high speed. I've driven a turbocharged 4i with the same aero as a RS500 at high speed. Neither felt very stable. That's my reason for thinking that an RS500 would not be at all 'planted' at 160mph. What's your reason for thinking the opposite?
Maybe because I did it many times in a genuine 3 door Cosworth, rather than a XR4i pretender.blade7 said:
hairykrishna said:
Ok. I've driven a Sierra Sappire Cosworth at high speed. I've driven a turbocharged 4i with the same aero as a RS500 at high speed. Neither felt very stable. That's my reason for thinking that an RS500 would not be at all 'planted' at 160mph. What's your reason for thinking the opposite?
Maybe because I did it many times in a genuine 3 door Cosworth, rather than a XR4i pretender.hairykrishna said:
blade7 said:
hairykrishna said:
Ok. I've driven a Sierra Sappire Cosworth at high speed. I've driven a turbocharged 4i with the same aero as a RS500 at high speed. Neither felt very stable. That's my reason for thinking that an RS500 would not be at all 'planted' at 160mph. What's your reason for thinking the opposite?
Maybe because I did it many times in a genuine 3 door Cosworth, rather than a XR4i pretender.Belle427 said:
Good advice thanks.
When you do, find a straight dual carriageway accelerate hard in a straight line and see if it lurches to one side with no steering input when you reach about 70/80.Some people haven’t had the behaviour but plenty have (see the Mk3 owners group), myself included, and with the engine problems was the predominant reason I parted with mine.
In corners it’s got bags of grip but for me the standard car and FPM modded one felt underpowered.
Everyone’s different, you May like it!
Not saying numbers are everything, but compared to a 2l estate with more than twice the boot space (using test data from a host of sources (20 magazines for the RS):
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/match5869-6642.htm
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/match5869-6642.htm
blade7 said:
hairykrishna said:
blade7 said:
hairykrishna said:
Ok. I've driven a Sierra Sappire Cosworth at high speed. I've driven a turbocharged 4i with the same aero as a RS500 at high speed. Neither felt very stable. That's my reason for thinking that an RS500 would not be at all 'planted' at 160mph. What's your reason for thinking the opposite?
Maybe because I did it many times in a genuine 3 door Cosworth, rather than a XR4i pretender.The FRS feels much more planted and stable at an indicated 160mph than the Sierra did at 120ish, which after that speed it felt borderline lethal.
Perhaps it was because it was an old car at the time in 1999 and on old design tyres rather than new Supersports but the FRS feels totally different and much more confidence inspiring.
The chassis flex of the Sierra was something else, even with the rollcage. It was still a fantastic car though despite it's faults, much like the mk3 RS.
Ahbefive said:
mrnoisy78 said:
Here’s a link to just one of many examples all too easy to find if you understand how to use a search engine rather than listening to the sound of your own voice, as you always seem to do whenever anyone has anything remotely negative to suggest about a Focus RS - I mean anyone would think you owned one and had been brainwashed LOL.
I actually bought another Impreza as a second car after I sold my FRS and it’s incredible to me that the Subaru feels just as quick yet more fun to drive and a better ride and interior even though it’s nearly 15 years older...never regretted selling mine for a minute - only performance car I’ve ever owned that I’ve said that about, go figure.
Nice looking machines but meh to own.
Each to their own but I certainly wouldn’t be putting my hard earned into another.
https://youtu.be/1cSZ1pru5Fo
I still can't find a link to ANY examples. Please show me ONE. This guy Mark is a well known hypochondriac and his car was merely weeping a small bit of oil which would have been repaired under warranty.I actually bought another Impreza as a second car after I sold my FRS and it’s incredible to me that the Subaru feels just as quick yet more fun to drive and a better ride and interior even though it’s nearly 15 years older...never regretted selling mine for a minute - only performance car I’ve ever owned that I’ve said that about, go figure.
Nice looking machines but meh to own.
Each to their own but I certainly wouldn’t be putting my hard earned into another.
https://youtu.be/1cSZ1pru5Fo
Any links to cars actually failing after the repair please?...... Any info appreciated as I can't find any. I'm in no way brainwashed and have a few cars and like lots of cars but the idiocy of so many people spouting nonsense about the car is tiring.
I also like Subarus but the RS is more fun than any I have driven (which is most types) as well as being more refined. To say the interior of a 15year old Subaru is in any way better is sheer moronic though. I may change my Megane for another Impreza though.
A lot of people (including me) who have owned one have found them lacklustre, disappointing and ultimately unreliable and these opinions are valid so why not just accept this and dissolve your indignance?
Life's so much better without arguments. Just accept other people have differing views and crack on with life.
You clearly love the FRS you have - surely thats all that matters right?
Its probably the best 4wd rally'esque car since the evo's. Now theyre becoming classics this is taking their place, what wiht it having a near proper diff, its got one hellov a rep though hasnt it for Head gaskets going?! I wonder what that would cost out of warrenty, i guess up to the cost of a new engine depending on how bad it went!? Id like to drive one and see how it compared to my old evo..
Onehp said:
Not saying numbers are everything, but compared to a 2l estate with more than twice the boot space (using test data from a host of sources (20 magazines for the RS):
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/match5869-6642.htm
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/match5869-6642.htm
DSG vs Manual?
RemyMartin81D said:
No please don't get him to stop, his tragic arguing of how others can't possibly not think it's the second coming , entertains me as I'm sure it does others for the past couple of years lol.
Drive them hard and the rear diff overheats and packs up. When they're out of warranty who knows how many will be stuck in fwd. Figure in the heat stress from the head gasket fiasco, and they're a ticking time bomb....blade7 said:
Drive them hard and the rear diff overheats and packs up. When they're out of warranty who knows how many will be stuck in fwd. Figure in the heat stress from the head gasket fiasco, and they're a ticking time bomb....
Every cliché you could think of. Do you have ANY experience of them? Mine has never gone fwd even after hard track use for 30min non stop. This seems to happen if you drift it lap after lap only from what I have read. I don't use mine for drift events though.How is the engine a ticking timebomb? Having been recalled as far as I can see they are perfectly reliable other than reports of some of the recalls not being done well and resulting in some weeping oil which again is fixed under warranty.
If you hate these cars so much, why are you in every thread about them?
blade7 said:
Drive them hard and the rear diff overheats and packs up. When they're out of warranty who knows how many will be stuck in fwd. Figure in the heat stress from the head gasket fiasco, and they're a ticking time bomb....
You realise this is technically impossible - firstly it won't overheat as it has a calculated usage and will go FWD to prevent any possible heat damage, never has this scenario happened on a road, think I've only seen it happen when on track they just drifted the thing constantly.You can either lap up all the bulls
t that's spouted by those who don't know or you can figure it out yourselfIanJ9375 said:
You realise this is technically impossible - firstly it won't overheat as it has a calculated usage and will go FWD to prevent any possible heat damage, never has this scenario happened on a road, think I've only seen it happen when on track they just drifted the thing constantly.
You can either lap up all the bullst that's spouted by those who don't know or you can figure it out yourself
The overheating does sound a bit sYou can either lap up all the bulls
t that's spouted by those who don't know or you can figure it out yourselft though doesnt it, never heard of that happening with an evo ayc, subaru dccd, quattro, haldex do you?!PorkRind said:
The overheating does sound a bit st though doesnt it, never heard of that happening with an evo ayc, subaru dccd, quattro, haldex do you?!
The difference though is that NONE of those systems make a car anywhere near as tail happy as the GKN system. They are also not without their problems. The AYC Pump in an evo is notorious for having issues and Haldex can have various gremlins too. I believe that the DCCD is quite a reliable system but it doesn't make the rear end anywhere near as playful as the GKN system.t though doesnt it, never heard of that happening with an evo ayc, subaru dccd, quattro, haldex do you?!If you can thrash a car around a track without issue and it only needing a cool down if you drift it constantly for 15-20minutes non stop I don't see the issue.
Obviously a RWD car would be better for that sort of thing but you would have to have deep pockets to stay in tyres if that's your bag. Do you ever drift a car for 15mins non stop? On a full track day I like to let the brakes and tyres cool down every 15mins or so and only do 30mins non stop if it is a booked session.
PorkRind said:
The overheating does sound a bit st though doesnt it, never heard of that happening with an evo ayc, subaru dccd, quattro, haldex do you?!
Like I said, apart from those who did nothing but drift it around it hasn't happened and technically it's an overheat prevention that's happening not that it has actually cooked.t though doesnt it, never heard of that happening with an evo ayc, subaru dccd, quattro, haldex do you?!Erm yes I think if you go looking you'll see there are issues there -
Audi Sport Diff £7k replacement cost - http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/...
I came across that when I was considering the S4 with Sports Diff
There's plenty about Haldex failures, I'm not really clued up on Jap cars so I can't comment so much there
Edited by IanJ9375 on Friday 15th February 09:09
Ahbefive said:
The difference though is that NONE of those systems make a car anywhere near as tail happy as the GKN system. They are also not without their problems. The AYC Pump in an evo is notorious for having issues and Haldex can have various gremlins too. I believe that the DCCD is quite a reliable system but it doesn't make the rear end anywhere near as playful as the GKN system.
I've had both my evo diff lasted me 80k , my tts pump failed twice. The AYC is a more solid solution. I just find it odd that this has gone out for sale when its not up to the job of doing as intended!? Or were they expecting people not to drive their cars like the rally'esque beasts they are?!IanJ9375 said:
There's plenty about Haldex failures, I'm not really clued up on Jap cars so I can't comment so much there
PorkRind said:
I've had both my evo diff lasted me 80k , my tts pump failed twice. The AYC is a more solid solution. I just find it odd that this has gone out for sale when its not up to the job of doing as intended!? Or were they expecting people not to drive their cars like the rally'esque beasts they are?!
Mine may last me until 80k without a failure too, but I doubt in the time you owned your evo that it was ever drifted non stop for 15-20mins to find out if something wanted too cool down before continuing? It's just a safety feature to stop premature wear and not something most owners will ever encounter.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff