RE: Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997): Spotted

RE: Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997): Spotted

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Jasandjules

69,953 posts

230 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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Part of the problem is 290k gets you a brand new McLaren...

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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It’s a ridiculous figure quite frankly. It’ll end up in a collection, like most do.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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st4 said:
SidewaysSi said:
FFS every God damn thread. Give it a rest.
Chestrockwell said:
Not this again....is this the same as that C63 then
Like that old Mercedes...but even sillier numbers. You'd think I was not allowed to have an opinion or something.

I see I've picked up a few trolls. Perhaps because I don't see the need or want to pay £295k for an old Porsche makes me a target for them.


Fire99 said:
I have to agree.. It's a decent track day car. Have shared a few with these and their 'regular' GT3 brothers, but they're not £300k special. To me it's a £50k second hand Porsche that I could do a few track days and still stop by Tesco and do the shopping on the way home.
I agree. This is sound logic and better put than I did.

Edited by st4 on Saturday 16th February 14:05
The issue is that you don't really have an opinion other than saying something is too expensive because it is old.

It is as though you don't understand market forces or the value of anything other than something new. Which is very odd.

The 4.0 RS is rightly seen as a landmark car in Porsche history - something that you can't seem to comprehend.



anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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Very strange advert, shouldn't the car be floating in the lake instead of being on dry land?

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

238 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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A very special Porsche.

Wasn't it this model where Porsche had to build an extra one after being sued by a customer who had one allocated then cancelled by the dealer? So there is actually no. 601 of 600 floating about !

T74T

21 posts

79 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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The Surveyor said:
A very special Porsche.

Wasn't it this model where Porsche had to build an extra one after being sued by a customer who had one allocated then cancelled by the dealer? So there is actually no. 601 of 600 floating about !
I think he sued them but didn't get the car he got £40k compo as I read in one of the Porsche mags as far as I know he didn't get the car I may be wrong. I know the guy involved but not a great lot about the case.

MDMA .

8,910 posts

102 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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The Surveyor said:
A very special Porsche.

Wasn't it this model where Porsche had to build an extra one after being sued by a customer who had one allocated then cancelled by the dealer? So there is actually no. 601 of 600 floating about !
No. Never got one. Kevin (the guy who sued) is a friend of mine.

AndrewD

7,541 posts

285 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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hornbaek said:
One of the best and most engaging cars ever made and worth every penny.
Completely agree.

People comparing a 4.0RS a modern McL, for example, sound a bit silly. Well, to me anyway.


isaldiri

18,624 posts

169 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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yonex said:
It’s a ridiculous figure quite frankly. It’ll end up in a collection, like most do.
It's probably a bit ridiculous I agree compared to the 7.2rs which is practically the same car for a lot less in price. however you're definitely not quite correct about all the 4.0's ending up in collections.... smile


WCZ

10,544 posts

195 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Not bad when you consider a couple of these went abroad for £550-600k

Rhd for collectors and lhd to drive imo

st4

1,359 posts

134 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
The issue is that you don't really have an opinion other than saying something is too expensive because it is old.

It is as though you don't understand market forces or the value of anything other than something new. Which is very odd.

The 4.0 RS is rightly seen as a landmark car in Porsche history - something that you can't seem to comprehend.
If some schmuck wants to pay £300k for an old Porsche which they’ll never drive then who am I to stand in the way. I guess I get it smile

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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st4 said:
SidewaysSi said:
The issue is that you don't really have an opinion other than saying something is too expensive because it is old.

It is as though you don't understand market forces or the value of anything other than something new. Which is very odd.

The 4.0 RS is rightly seen as a landmark car in Porsche history - something that you can't seem to comprehend.
If some schmuck wants to pay £300k for an old Porsche which they’ll never drive then who am I to stand in the way. I guess I get it smile
Why do you mention "old" in every post? Are new cars somehow better in your tiny mind?

I guess you don't understand the word "classic" either?

I think the only schmuck is you I'm afraid.

st4

1,359 posts

134 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
Why do you mention "old" in every post? Are new cars somehow better in your tiny mind?

I guess you don't understand the word "classic" either?

I think the only schmuck is you I'm afraid.
It is old. That’s why. Paying what double what it cost new seems the sort of thing a schmuck would do.

You should remortgage your house and buy it. Go on.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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isaldiri said:
It's probably a bit ridiculous I agree compared to the 7.2rs which is practically the same car for a lot less in price. however you're definitely not quite correct about all the 4.0's ending up in collections.... smile

And thank Christ there are those that use them as intended. Awesome!

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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st4 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Why do you mention "old" in every post? Are new cars somehow better in your tiny mind?

I guess you don't understand the word "classic" either?

I think the only schmuck is you I'm afraid.
It is old. That’s why. Paying what double what it cost new seems the sort of thing a schmuck would do.

You should remortgage your house and buy it. Go on.
Again, you don't seem to grasp the concept of "classic". It may seem daft to you but maybe others have more money than you? And me for that matter.

Should someone only look to buy a central London flat at what it originally cost? Are they a schmuck too? Or perhaps the buyer of a 250 LM. I mean that car is really old so they must be a schmuck of the highest order.

You seem to have difficulty with the whole concept of value. And why what you may deem as poor value, others and the market may not.

As far as cars go, plenty of people think that older is invariably better, myself included.
After all, only a schmuck would buy a new car then get bent over with depreciation after all.

What is it that you drive...? Please enlighten us oh wise one.

HorneyMX5

5,309 posts

151 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Loved these when they came out and they still look great now. It wasn’t really that long ago when came out and yet a few exra cc these days seems an odd thing to get excited about in a sea of twin turbos, hybrids and full electric power trains. It just goes to show the huge change we’re going through at the moment.

I remember Chris Harris buying one on finance and the forums having a melt down over it. He sold it back to the dealer for a considerable profit if I remember correctly. There’s a couple of good videos on it on his old YouTube channel.


st4

1,359 posts

134 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
Again, you don't seem to grasp the concept of "classic". It may seem daft to you but maybe others have more money than you? And me for that matter.

Should someone only look to buy a central London flat at what it originally cost? Are they a schmuck too? Or perhaps the buyer of a 250 LM. I mean that car is really old so they must be a schmuck of the highest order.

You seem to have difficulty with the whole concept of value. And why what you may deem as poor value, others and the market may not.

As far as cars go, plenty of people think that older is invariably better, myself included.
After all, only a schmuck would buy a new car then get bent over with depreciation after all.

What is it that you drive...? Please enlighten us oh wise one.
£300k for an old Porsche. It is that simple. It will very soon be two generations old. That market will crash as people won't pay inflated prices for old cars.

What I drive and how much money I have is irrelevant. Others too have commented on the price of the car and it being high. Others indeed may see it as poor value oh wise one.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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st4 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Again, you don't seem to grasp the concept of "classic". It may seem daft to you but maybe others have more money than you? And me for that matter.

Should someone only look to buy a central London flat at what it originally cost? Are they a schmuck too? Or perhaps the buyer of a 250 LM. I mean that car is really old so they must be a schmuck of the highest order.

You seem to have difficulty with the whole concept of value. And why what you may deem as poor value, others and the market may not.

As far as cars go, plenty of people think that older is invariably better, myself included.
After all, only a schmuck would buy a new car then get bent over with depreciation after all.

What is it that you drive...? Please enlighten us oh wise one.
£300k for an old Porsche. It is that simple. It will very soon be two generations old. That market will crash as people won't pay inflated prices for old cars.

What I drive and how much money I have is irrelevant. Others too have commented on the price of the car and it being high. Others indeed may see it as poor value oh wise one.
What has 2 generations old got to do with it? How many generations old is a 2.7RS? Or should that be worth £5k? And those old 962s... £7k perhaps?

You do seem to be someone we should be taking financial advice from so I would have thought you would happily tell us what you drive, but again another question you fail to answer. However I think you drive a new Skoda Mii I seem to remember?

The market may crash but in today's market, this is the price. Maybe in 3 years it will be worth less but we don't know that. Comparatively it is fine value in today's market and the black car sold for £450k. To a schmuck no doubt.

Anyway, the sun is out and I have a couple of really old bangers in the garage ready to be thrashed. So rather than carry on conversing with an inexperienced and somewhat thick schmuck, I am out of here to enjoy myself.

I suggest you grab the keys to your Mii and do the same.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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And here's a random review saying what a POS it is:

https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-gt3/7017/porsche...

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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st4 said:
£300k for an old Porsche. It is that simple. It will very soon be two generations old. That market will crash as people won't pay inflated prices for old cars.

What I drive and how much money I have is irrelevant. Others too have commented on the price of the car and it being high. Others indeed may see it as poor value oh wise one.
It’s not really irrelevant, it shows what sort of car interests you have, it’s a motoring forum after all?

As for value. Something is worth what someone will pay. It’s a lot of money but it doesn’t mean it’s not worth it (to someone). As for ‘old’ would you dismiss an F40, Bentley blower as poor value for being ‘old’

Makes no sense whatsoever, and with pretty much every new car being less interesting than the models they replace the smart money is looking backwards.