RE: Vauxhall Astra GSI: Spotted

RE: Vauxhall Astra GSI: Spotted

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aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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I despise Vauxhalls, I struggle to think of any Vauxhall I would own over a Ford. This is one of the exceptions, the RS2000 of the time was absolutely nothing special, the GSI at least looks pretty good, and has that engine too.

rastapasta

1,863 posts

138 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Baileyk said:

I bet It drives better than a mercury comet convertible wink
I had one of these back in 1996
And the c20xe is one of the best 4 pots ever created, although mine was exchanged for a let
For more power thoroughly enjoyed mine at the time
As a chav from that time period I salute that car and the choice of colour. Awesome bit of kit!
It was popular to buy the 1.4 version and glue the gsi body kit and vents to it.
Yeah my cousin did that to his mothers 1.4i alright. They were ubiquitous in the UK but in Ireland you hardly ever saw them. I think my brother had a GSi back in the day though in the mid 90's when he lived in the UK. Lovely machines. I preferred them to the Ford versions but I'd say the pick of the lot was probably the 306 GTI 6.


Edited by rastapasta on Monday 18th February 13:06

PistonBroker

2,419 posts

226 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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I think these are a cracking looking thing - better looking than the Mk2 perhaps - but it's the earlier car that really floats my boat.

Surprised at the first poster's view of how they drive. My Mum's 93L 1.4 LS estate was the first car I drove, other than my instructor's K11 Micra, and I was named driver on it until she px'd it on the PCP merry-go-round for a 96P Corsa 1.4.

I've owned 60-odd cars since - including a couple more Mk3 Astras many moons ago and the obligatory PH MX5s, Alfa etc. - and whilst I wouldn't have declared any of the Vauxhalls I've driven to be the last word in driving dynamics, I didn't think they were all that bad. Can't say I've driven any Ladas but I'd be surprised if they were better.

Though I suppose giggling as you understeer off a roundabout aged 17 with just 82PS at your disposal is a bit different to the same phenomenon with almost twice that power to hand!

Jhonno

5,774 posts

141 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Loved my old GSi/GTE 16v's.. Had a black GSI like this on, 5 stud converted, Turbo alloys. Was the bks! Prefer the GTE purely for the Digi-dash, but if I had spare cash would have one again for a laugh.

XE is still a brilliant engine!

832ark

1,226 posts

156 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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seabod91 said:
Weren’t these the most powerful 2.0 16v at the time. Not owned an Astra gsi but I fitted a fettled c20xe (Redtop to the Chavs) into a stripped / sorted corsa b shell. Had the digi dash which I loved aswell, would give scoobie 2000’s a fright. Loved it and sounded amazing.
Hardly, the 1600cc Honda engine made more power.

Reciprocating mass

6,030 posts

241 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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832ark said:
seabod91 said:
Weren’t these the most powerful 2.0 16v at the time. Not owned an Astra gsi but I fitted a fettled c20xe (Redtop to the Chavs) into a stripped / sorted corsa b shell. Had the digi dash which I loved aswell, would give scoobie 2000’s a fright. Loved it and sounded amazing.
Hardly, the 1600cc Honda engine made more power.
Which Honda in the U.K. had that engine in 1991 out of interest are you talking about the 148 bhp crx vtech

Edited by Reciprocating mass on Monday 18th February 15:24

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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seabod91 said:
Weren’t these the most powerful 2.0 16v at the time. Not owned an Astra gsi but I fitted a fettled c20xe (Redtop to the Chavs) into a stripped / sorted corsa b shell. Had the digi dash which I loved aswell, would give scoobie 2000’s a fright. Loved it and sounded amazing.
The c20let had 200bhp

Robmarriott

2,638 posts

158 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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When I was younger, my family were all Vauxhall owners, My dad had them as company cars, my mum hasn't owned anything non Vauxhall since 1995, my brother, sister and brother in law all had plenty of them too so I ended up with Vauxhalls for my first 4 cars (and several since).

Because of this, I always wanted a mk3 GSI (or even a Sport in that lovely pearlescent grey colour or Pineapple yellow) after a string of Corsas and Novas...

Then I drove one and changed my mind, they don't go round corners particularly well.

ArmouredBiscuit

1,139 posts

234 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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I absolutely loved my Mk3 GSi......had its flaws which were all well-reported, but as the second car I ever owned is was just great (to me, anyway).

Started off standard Polar White and looked like this by the time I was done....

832ark

1,226 posts

156 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Reciprocating mass said:
832ark said:
seabod91 said:
Weren’t these the most powerful 2.0 16v at the time. Not owned an Astra gsi but I fitted a fettled c20xe (Redtop to the Chavs) into a stripped / sorted corsa b shell. Had the digi dash which I loved aswell, would give scoobie 2000’s a fright. Loved it and sounded amazing.
Hardly, the 1600cc Honda engine made more power.
Which Honda in the U.K. had that engine in 1991 out of interest are you talking about the 148 bhp crx vtech

Edited by Reciprocating mass on Monday 18th February 15:24
Who said anything about it having to be in the UK? UK Civic and CRX VTs made 150PS and the JDM equivalents made 160PS. And it’s VTEC.

Reciprocating mass

6,030 posts

241 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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I thought the thread was about 1991 U.K. market hot hatches not that it really matters

heisthegaffer

3,409 posts

198 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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lee_erm said:
These drove pretty well. Better than anything else available at the time in the segment, GTI6 aside, which was only available when this was long in the tooth anyway. These are a much much better steer than the MK3 Golf GTI.

The engine was an utter peach too.
I was reading old copies of Car mags recently of when this came out and they say it was really poor to drive with loads of better alternatives available.

Tipo 16v would have got my vote back then. Lovely, especially in red. Or black.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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ArmouredBiscuit said:
I absolutely loved my Mk3 GSi......had its flaws which were all well-reported, but as the second car I ever owned is was just great (to me, anyway).

Started off standard Polar White and looked like this by the time I was done....
That is a blast from the past. I grew up in the South Wales valleys and every 3rd car was "tastefully modified" to look like that.

I think the Astra F was a perfectly fine car. Well styled, good range of engines, drove well enough (miles better than the stty Escort), and reliable. It was a different time, and cars like the GSi were rare and quite desireable to your ordinary herbet on the street. I'm very happy to see an unmolested one still exists!

s m

23,228 posts

203 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Killboy said:
Oh man, bring back the memories. South Africa never got the 16v NA motor. I had an "Opel Kadett 200ISE" which was an 8v. Not the quickest (although faster than the mk3 GTI at least) which was a lovely cruiser. I did 160k kms in 3 years with mine.

What SA did get, was a TS. Got one hell of a reputation for torque steer, and massively tunable. Lots of them running around 11s on the 1/4. At the time, there was no faster hatch.



Excellent cool

There was one of these in the UK

I would have liked the Mk2 shape Superboss you got over in South Africa - 170bhp XE and LSD


Hilts

4,391 posts

282 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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h7ust said:
Had 4 gsi's and 4 gtes and still got 1, love them.
h7ust signed up to Pistonheads 10 years and 8 months ago.

He/she has waited patiently since then for an Astra GSi thread before making their first post.

Respect bow

kieranblenk

865 posts

134 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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My dad bought a Mk2 16v GTE pre-reg in 1989 and kept it 10 years hence why a white one would appear in my dream garage purely for sentimental reasons - it was the car that I grew up with and stemmed my love for all things motoring. The Ford's may have been better to some but an old Escort does nothing for me.

pSyCoSiS

3,597 posts

205 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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In a world where an Escort Cosworth commands north of £50k, I think £5k / £6k for the cars mentioned in the article are relative bargains.

For sure, you won't be losing money on them. For it's retro appeal. I would go for the red GTE (those digital dashboards are so cool).

Davie

4,748 posts

215 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Welshbeef said:
High power is subjective 150bhp is weak / my diesel smax has similar
That was then, this is now.

At 18 way back in 97/98, a 150bhp Astra GSi was a quick car. Sadly insurance deemed one a no go for me, same applied to a Calibra so I went down the Cavalier route with a GSi2000 and then a Cavalier Turbo. Most of my car mates back then were Vauxhall guys... GTE's, 16V Novas including one with a C20LET which was frankly, insane.

The Redtop engine is an absolute belter of a unit, proven in several motorsports disciplines and OK the handling of many a 90's Vauxhall was a bit vague but nothing a set of springs and shocks from the back of Max Power couldn't sort. Build quality was better than the Ford's and French offerings of that era and they were cheap to buy, run and modify and thus the appeal was obvious.

Genuine minters are almost non existent these days, they just weren't coveted as much as the Ford offerings but assuming this one isn't rotten, I'd have a go at £5k if only to don my Air Max, chuck a JBL bass tube in the boot, give Katy a call and see if she's wants a night off from the kids, drippy husband (who drives an S-Max) and fancies an evening of questionable behaviour in and out of the auld ridtap.

Good times!

Jhonno

5,774 posts

141 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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How many ex/current Vauxhall guys used to use MIGWEB?

rastapasta

1,863 posts

138 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Davie said:
Welshbeef said:
High power is subjective 150bhp is weak / my diesel smax has similar
That was then, this is now.

At 18 way back in 97/98, a 150bhp Astra GSi was a quick car. Sadly insurance deemed one a no go for me, same applied to a Calibra so I went down the Cavalier route with a GSi2000 and then a Cavalier Turbo. Most of my car mates back then were Vauxhall guys... GTE's, 16V Novas including one with a C20LET which was frankly, insane.

The Redtop engine is an absolute belter of a unit, proven in several motorsports disciplines and OK the handling of many a 90's Vauxhall was a bit vague but nothing a set of springs and shocks from the back of Max Power couldn't sort. Build quality was better than the Ford's and French offerings of that era and they were cheap to buy, run and modify and thus the appeal was obvious.

Genuine minters are almost non existent these days, they just weren't coveted as much as the Ford offerings but assuming this one isn't rotten, I'd have a go at £5k if only to don my Air Max, chuck a JBL bass tube in the boot, give Katy a call and see if she's wants a night off from the kids, drippy husband (who drives an S-Max) and fancies an evening of questionable behaviour in and out of the auld ridtap.

Good times!
I like that your charm with the laydeez is still in as good of form as this particular car. Let us know if Katy was up for reliving her youth testing out the suspension on the old girl.