The Joy of Running an Old Shed

The Joy of Running an Old Shed

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sparks_190e

12,738 posts

214 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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200Plus Club said:
RowntreesCabana said:
Whats the deal with old sheds and insurance when running something else? I know there are multicar policies, but I've never used one before, always a classic policy and standard fully comp for my other car. Whats the extra payment like for an old shed on a multipolicy?
I don't use multicar tbh as I find it cheaper to insure stand alone. 200 quid fully comp on the £650 corrolla for 2 drivers is typical. The vw golf we had went upto £231 for some reason but they refunded 31 quid when I swapped! Win win!
My 190e costs me £120 a year, fully comp on a classic policy. Zero no claims on this policy I might add...

martin mrt

3,773 posts

202 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Lemming Train said:
The background would have me worried! I see an overgrown hedge right off the bat, but not yet spotted any Staffies, old sofas and/or fridges in the front gardens hehe. My experience of buying cheap sheds from council types is that they fall into 1 of 2 categories :

1. every panel dented, corroded and kerbed alloys from a complete different car that don't fit properly and are several sizes too big for the car, or steelies with no trims. No service history as the Staffie ate it and the V5 has been "misplaced" so you'll need to apply for it yourself (read: the logbook loan co. have it).

2. externally good condition, but cheap because something catastrophic is about to go pop and cost you what you've just paid for the car + more.

Maybe I was just unlucky.. :shrug:
Logbook is there, service history Is there, and there’s 3 panels with small dents, the wheels are correct and I couldn’t see any Staffies loitering so not bad.

To be honest if it goes bang I’ll get back what I paid for it in bits, or if I don’t like it I will get back what it cost me easily

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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martin mrt said:
Logbook is there, service history Is there, and there’s 3 panels with small dents, the wheels are correct and I couldn’t see any Staffies loitering so not bad.

To be honest if it goes bang I’ll get back what I paid for it in bits, or if I don’t like it I will get back what it cost me easily
thumbup keep us updated and I hope it proves to eb a good'un!

200Plus Club

10,772 posts

279 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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sparks_190e said:
My 190e costs me £120 a year, fully comp on a classic policy. Zero no claims on this policy I might add...
I've a classic Alfa on similar policy. Cheapest car I have to insure despite being the oldest and highest value. Modern sheds unfortunately seem to attract minty insurance if not a classic.

rougerogue

57 posts

146 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Lemming Train said:
Nice shed! The silly wheel size and rubber band tyres on the grey one make me wince just looking at them and the road you're travelling on. One unseen pothole hidden by a puddle and that's going to get expensive very quickly frown. I'd definitely take the silver Skoda smile .
The VW is ridiculously firm for the roads around here (pretty rural). I had a Leon FR before that, and may be the only customer to ever have asked at point of purchase to swap the 18 inch wheels for 17 inch ones. Never had hit a bad pothole yet (fingers crossed) but I have a sad memory that recalls every lump and bump on a road I’ve travelled, same as any corner or other detail.
The Skoda has knackered suspension so is a bit sick inducing I’d imagine for passengers but is unfazed by small bumps, that’s how cars used to ride. Still pretty fit for 18 years old, 130k, car, tax and insurance have ran me less than a grand and I’ve done 2k and a few months in it. One day in the past it had 150hp (it’s the 1.8t) some of those horses have not fled. Everything works including electric sunroof. What’s not to like?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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I bought a petrol passat 2.0S a few years back...bought for £990 at 80k which I thought was a bargain, ran it to 200k then sold to WBAC for £200.

All it cost me was tyres, fuel, antifreeze, an oil change I did myself, I gutted the bottom of the airbox which gave it an okish induction noise and seemed to pick up better, fitted a jetex panel filter, so about £500 all in + £790 = £1300 for ~4 years of easy mileage. Oh and a £40 HID kit...because they have projectors standard. Was a great car and I could just park it anywhere without caring. Just wish it had the 2.0 ABF engine or something like the mk3 gti gold had...160hp instead of 120hp would have been much nicer.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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200Plus Club said:
If it's not less than a grand it's not a shed I'm afraid and that looks too tidy :-)
If you Google "shed" you'll find it states "costing less than a grand and if it breaks down you empty it of your posessions and get a taxi home" ...
Surely this depends on networth?

If someones networth is 10x yours that means a shed becomes £10k or under.

It's an interesting way to look at life btw given the average networth in the UK is ~£200k which means a £1k shed becomes less than 20 pence for a billionaire.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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rougerogue said:
Lemming Train said:
Nice shed! The silly wheel size and rubber band tyres on the grey one make me wince just looking at them and the road you're travelling on. One unseen pothole hidden by a puddle and that's going to get expensive very quickly frown. I'd definitely take the silver Skoda smile .
The VW is ridiculously firm for the roads around here (pretty rural). I had a Leon FR before that, and may be the only customer to ever have asked at point of purchase to swap the 18 inch wheels for 17 inch ones. Never had hit a bad pothole yet (fingers crossed) but I have a sad memory that recalls every lump and bump on a road I’ve travelled, same as any corner or other detail.
Yes, pretty much the same story here when I had my Focus on 18s. Even with expensive Michelins it was just too firm and too.. competent? on country roads to be enjoyable to drive. Always on the look-out for potholes/sunken gullies at the edge of the road when traffic coming the other way on the narrower bits and the relatively wide tyres at 235 with a 40 profile meant it quickly became annoying over the patches and ruts with the overly sensitive steering requiring lots of tiresome micro corrections. With the state of the roads getting worse by the day I looked into swapping the wheels for some 215 50 17s from the next model down but the price and then the cost of new tyres again was too prohibitive so I sold it and now have a little run about 14s with a 65 laugh profile. Pothole? What pothole?

Edited by Lemming Train on Thursday 27th June 23:46

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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mehmehmeh said:
200Plus Club said:
If it's not less than a grand it's not a shed I'm afraid and that looks too tidy :-)
If you Google "shed" you'll find it states "costing less than a grand and if it breaks down you empty it of your posessions and get a taxi home" ...
Surely this depends on networth?

If someones networth is 10x yours that means a shed becomes £10k or under.

It's an interesting way to look at life btw given the average networth in the UK is ~£200k which means a £1k shed becomes less than 20 pence for a billionaire.
I think 200Plus may not have been serious..

sim72

4,945 posts

135 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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mehmehmeh said:
Just wish it had the 2.0 ABF engine or something like the mk3 gti gold had...160hp instead of 120hp would have been much nicer.
150hp, but yeah. Anything with an ABF is worth having if it's decent, I had two Mk3 Golf 16v snotters that I sold to a breaker for more than I paid for them, apparently the ABFs are quite sought after in the stock car / banger world. They're getting quite rare now, I see more VR6s than I do 16v, that's probably the reason I guess.

200Plus Club

10,772 posts

279 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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Lemming Train said:
I think 200Plus may not have been serious..
I was adding humour the previous "shed" discussions but this chap may actually have a point of sorts I guess. Throw-away cars for the super rich may well be £10k cars etc.
Whatever you are comfortable with walking away from when it breaks down I suppose might be the answer, if you have to look back or check it's locked, or be careful where you park then I guess it's not a true shed, just a "cheap daily " :-)

M4cruiser

3,651 posts

151 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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200Plus Club said:
If you Google "shed" you'll find it states "costing less than a grand and if it breaks down you empty it of your posessions and get a taxi home" ...
Now I see the connection with the "Abandoned ordinary cars" thread! biggrin

martin mrt

3,773 posts

202 months

Saturday 29th June 2019
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200Plus Club said:
If it's not less than a grand it's not a shed I'm afraid and that looks too tidy :-)
If you Google "shed" you'll find it states "costing less than a grand and if it breaks down you empty it of your posessions and get a taxi home" ...
It falls within SOTW budget, in my eyes it’s a shed. Anything under a grand is a snotter

Picked it up last night, shakes on idle but it’s not the flywheel as there’s no rattle and makes no difference when the clutch is depressed. It seems to be a common issue and adjusting the idle speed on vag com today will hopefully cure it.

It’s visiting the local polski drive through car wash for a cheap valet as I have too much to do this weekend and it’s filthy.

What pleases me massively is it’s showing over 300 miles to just over 1/2 a tank of fuel, as a daily this will pay for itself in fuel savings alone.

Removing the cheap Chinese stereo and refitting an original too, I’ll hopefully get some money back on that

martin mrt

3,773 posts

202 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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martin mrt said:


I had my offer on this accepted tonight, 140bhp TDi so no dpf

It Cost less than we have just spent painting our Mk5 R32 and removing the rust.

Initial impressions are ok, I pick it up tomorrow all going well
Shedding in the Golf hasn’t gone too well, used it all weekend with no problems, even treated it to a proper clean.

Day 1 of using it when needed, Turbo has st itself on the way to work, I’m not even sure I can be bothered to fix it

Back to the drawing board

magpie215

4,401 posts

190 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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martin mrt said:
Shedding in the Golf hasn’t gone too well, used it all weekend with no problems, even treated it to a proper clean.

Day 1 of using it when needed, Turbo has st itself on the way to work, I’m not even sure I can be bothered to fix it

Back to the drawing board
Mmmm not good....break for spares will it return what it cost?

egor110

16,876 posts

204 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Picking a diesel is upping the risk when shedding , petrols a far safer punt .

200Plus Club

10,772 posts

279 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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egor110 said:
Picking a diesel is upping the risk when shedding , petrols a far safer punt .
Very wise words. N.A. petrol all the way.

Oxford1971

102 posts

60 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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The Gods of DPF's, and DMF's are harsh.

cobra kid

4,948 posts

241 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Oxford1971 said:
The Gods of DPF's, and DMF's are harsh.
2007 golf 1.9 tdi here. Original clutch and exhaust, now on 162k miles. Time to cash in on it I think.

martin mrt

3,773 posts

202 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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magpie215 said:
Mmmm not good....break for spares will it return what it cost?
To be honest I can’t be arsed with the hassle, I’ve bought a new turbo for it and it’s being fixed tomorrow hopefully

I’ve already stuck a deposit down on a mk6 Golf GTI that I’ll get later this week then punt the tdi once it’s repaired.
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