The Joy of Running an Old Shed

The Joy of Running an Old Shed

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STIfree

1,904 posts

160 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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tomble22 said:
Picked up this last week for a bit of shedding fun whilst trying to keep my Clio 182 nice/save my back on work driving. Paid the princely sum of £200, 156k, MOT until end of Feb, cambelt and water pump done last year and some history throughout.

Bought blind so was a bit of a gamble, sold as spares or repair as well as it's showing an occasional P2002 fault which judging by a few Forums could be an easy fix (could being the operative word).

Only thing done so far was an interior valet and shampoo on Saturday as it stank of cigarette smoke and had fag ash all over the carpets etc, much better inside now.

First thing on my list is the DPF fault. Have just bought an OBD lead to use with Forscan and will have a look at some readings to see whats what.

Having owned a lot of cars and some (relatively) nice stuff here and there, i was actually quite giddy about this old boy, and am enjoying the drive so far.

Will have a crack at the DPF thing over the Christmas break and give it an oil and filters service and then see whats what, low expenditure is the name of the game!!

That's one hell of a price! I thought I did good with my 08 plate Mondeo for £870.

I'm getting the same P2002 code on mine (check back a couple of pages to see me waffling on about it).

Please keep us updated as to how you get on with it, it's something that I'm just starting to scratch the surface on.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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If the DPF is chocker it could well prove to be rather expensive to get it through its MOT in a couple of months. If it had 12 months ticket on it just gut the DPF and you've got 12 months motoring for £200 (assuming nothing else breaks). I personally wouldn't bother throwing money at new oil and filters until I knew the DPF problem could be fixed cheaply, otherwise those funds are completely wasted when it fails its MOT and basically writes the car off.

Edited by Lemming Train on Monday 16th December 16:16

tomble22

598 posts

129 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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v15ben said:
Very impressive for £200.
Very different to a 182 as well.
Still miss my old Racing Blue one owned a decade ago.
Yeah it is very different. I love the 182 but it does grate a bit when you're using it daily, especially as i'm doing probably 250 miles a week for work.

tomble22

598 posts

129 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Lemming Train said:
If the DPF is chocker it could well prove to be rather expensive to get it through its MOT in a couple of months. If it had 12 months ticket on it just gut the DPF and you've got 12 months motoring for £200 (assuming nothing else breaks). I personally wouldn't bother throwing money at new oil and filters until I knew the DPF problem could be fixed cheaply, otherwise those funds are completely wasted when it fails its MOT and basically writes the car off.

Edited by Lemming Train on Monday 16th December 16:16
Yeah very true. I'm going to have a quick look on the laptop later to see what the soot levels are like, then run a forced regen to see if it's working ok. If not, i'll have a check of the dpf pressure pipework as this seems to be a common issue.

I'm unsure at the moment either way. When i had the car delivered the eml was on for the P2002 fault. I cleared it with my bluetooth code reader and it hasn't come back yet. I've also done a couple of decent length trips in the last few days so it might just be that it needed a good run. We'll see.

To be honest it it fails the MOT and needs a load of work i'll just scrap it or break it, should make at least half my money back.

tomble22

598 posts

129 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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STIfree said:
That's one hell of a price! I thought I did good with my 08 plate Mondeo for £870.

I'm getting the same P2002 code on mine (check back a couple of pages to see me waffling on about it).

Please keep us updated as to how you get on with it, it's something that I'm just starting to scratch the surface on.
Mine is only a Zetec though, i don't have the fancy dash in mine (dash envy!!). Still surprised at the level of kit though, cruise control, bluetooth phone and aux in for music. Compared to the 182 it's like a limo.

Will definitely keep you updated. Will have a look on Forscan tonight and see whats what.

Pat H

8,056 posts

257 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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tomble22 said:
Lemming Train said:
If the DPF is chocker it could well prove to be rather expensive to get it through its MOT in a couple of months. If it had 12 months ticket on it just gut the DPF and you've got 12 months motoring for £200 (assuming nothing else breaks). I personally wouldn't bother throwing money at new oil and filters until I knew the DPF problem could be fixed cheaply, otherwise those funds are completely wasted when it fails its MOT and basically writes the car off.
Yeah very true. I'm going to have a quick look on the laptop later to see what the soot levels are like, then run a forced regen to see if it's working ok. If not, i'll have a check of the dpf pressure pipework as this seems to be a common issue.

I'm unsure at the moment either way. When i had the car delivered the eml was on for the P2002 fault. I cleared it with my bluetooth code reader and it hasn't come back yet. I've also done a couple of decent length trips in the last few days so it might just be that it needed a good run. We'll see.

To be honest it it fails the MOT and needs a load of work i'll just scrap it or break it, should make at least half my money back.
My 57 plate Focus 2.0 diesel doesn't have a DPF.

Early 57 platers like mine don't.

Later 57 platers do.

Dunno what the position is for Mondeos.

If you fall into a changeover year, then is there any scope for losing the DPF and still passing an MOT?

No doubt there will be a catch, but it may be worth a look before writing the car off?

Hopefully someone better informed will be able to answer.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Pat H said:
My 57 plate Focus 2.0 diesel doesn't have a DPF.

Early 57 platers like mine don't.

Later 57 platers do.

Dunno what the position is for Mondeos.

If you fall into a changeover year, then is there any scope for losing the DPF and still passing an MOT?

No doubt there will be a catch, but it may be worth a look before writing the car off?

Hopefully someone better informed will be able to answer.
If the tester realises the DPF is missing, it’ll fail the MOT, I believe. I don’t know how hard/easy it is to detect a missing DPF though

rich12

3,465 posts

155 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Jimmy Recard said:
If the tester realises the DPF is missing, it’ll fail the MOT, I believe. I don’t know how hard/easy it is to detect a missing DPF though
Probably best to gut it and put it back in that case.

Bonefish Blues

26,886 posts

224 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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rich12 said:
Jimmy Recard said:
If the tester realises the DPF is missing, it’ll fail the MOT, I believe. I don’t know how hard/easy it is to detect a missing DPF though
Probably best to gut it and put it back in that case.
Fails on visible smoke then?

Hammer67

5,740 posts

185 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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https://www.onlineautomotive.co.uk/products.aspx?I...

DPF for said Mondeo. Halfway sensible price.

stevemcs

8,688 posts

94 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Its more than likely something causing it to block, you really need to get to the bottom of that, possibly sensor or pressure pipe but its a bit of a bargin for £200. I keep looking at upgrading the Mk3 to the Mk4 but then i'm going to end up with a DPF and i only cover 5 miles per day, the current 2.2 doesn't have a DPFso its fine and Ecoboosts are rare ... and even rarer in estate form.

So as a stop gap i've ordered new rear discs .... thats £45 lighter for discs and pads. I really should do the front but will put up with the warped discs a little longer.

Demelitia

679 posts

57 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Where are we all finding these amazingly cheap sheds? I mean, I’ve already got one, but n+1 and all that....

Eyersey1234

2,898 posts

80 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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My shed Focus did 620 miles in 2 days this weekend going down to Kent, didn't miss a beat.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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stevemcs said:
Its more than likely something causing it to block, you really need to get to the bottom of that, possibly sensor or pressure pipe but its a bit of a bargin for £200. I keep looking at upgrading the Mk3 to the Mk4 but then i'm going to end up with a DPF and i only cover 5 miles per day, the current 2.2 doesn't have a DPFso its fine and Ecoboosts are rare ... and even rarer in estate form.

So as a stop gap i've ordered new rear discs .... thats £45 lighter for discs and pads. I really should do the front but will put up with the warped discs a little longer.
Why would you be buying a diesel car to cover 5 miles per day? wobble The engine won't even get anywhere near up to operating temperature and the consumption on a cold diesel engine is often worse than an equivalent sized petrol.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Lemming Train said:
stevemcs said:
Its more than likely something causing it to block, you really need to get to the bottom of that, possibly sensor or pressure pipe but its a bit of a bargin for £200. I keep looking at upgrading the Mk3 to the Mk4 but then i'm going to end up with a DPF and i only cover 5 miles per day, the current 2.2 doesn't have a DPFso its fine and Ecoboosts are rare ... and even rarer in estate form.

So as a stop gap i've ordered new rear discs .... thats £45 lighter for discs and pads. I really should do the front but will put up with the warped discs a little longer.
Why would you be buying a diesel car to cover 5 miles per day? wobble The engine won't even get anywhere near up to operating temperature and the consumption on a cold diesel engine is often worse than an equivalent sized petrol.
Yeah! But, but but, he is using so little fuel, it's not worth worrying about.

CrgT16

1,977 posts

109 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Mine has done 4000 miles so far. I started to notice coolant level loss. Hasn’t overheated and runs smooth. Oil is clean and no oil consumption in these miles.

Can’t see any leaks need to pressure test the system I guess. Hopefully nothing terminal, has 10 months left on MOT

stevemcs

8,688 posts

94 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Lemming Train said:
Why would you be buying a diesel car to cover 5 miles per day? wobble The engine won't even get anywhere near up to operating temperature and the consumption on a cold diesel engine is often worse than an equivalent sized petrol.
Why.....because I wanted a cheap estate car to take lots of stuff to the tip which is a 40 mile round trip, this one came up at the right time, was £700 had 12 months mot, new discs and pads on the front and a new coil spring. I didn’t buy it because it was a diesel just because it was the right size car at the right time.

greenarrow

3,621 posts

118 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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I replaced the 13 year old budget branded back tyres on my shed last week, as they were frankly scaring me as we move into colder wetter weeks. Got a pair of Kumho Ecowings and put the 7 year old Firestones on the back. Problem is, I think these Kumhos really aren't up to much! Disappointing as I've always had Kumhos in recent years and like them, but those were Ecstas which aren't available in my tyre size. My car has 185/65/14 tyres and you're fairly limited to the eco range of the market. TBH the old Firestones felt more predictable in the wet. Darn, wish I'd spent another £10 a corner and stuck on more Firestones, but the B wet weather Grip and cheaper price of the Kumhos plus B fuel economy (F on the Firestones) sort of sucked me in!! Is it me or are these tyre labels actually a bit of a farce?

Being a shed however, is it really worth ditching them? Its a tough call, because a car like a Mk1 Focus loves being thrown around and therefore deserves tyres that allow it do "do its thing".

Anyone else had this sort of dilemma? Choosing the wrong tyres when even a cheap pair cost 20% of the value of the car!!!

Superchickenn

688 posts

171 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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greenarrow said:
I replaced the 13 year old budget branded back tyres on my shed last week, as they were frankly scaring me as we move into colder wetter weeks. Got a pair of Kumho Ecowings and put the 7 year old Firestones on the back. Problem is, I think these Kumhos really aren't up to much! Disappointing as I've always had Kumhos in recent years and like them, but those were Ecstas which aren't available in my tyre size. My car has 185/65/14 tyres and you're fairly limited to the eco range of the market. TBH the old Firestones felt more predictable in the wet. Darn, wish I'd spent another £10 a corner and stuck on more Firestones, but the B wet weather Grip and cheaper price of the Kumhos plus B fuel economy (F on the Firestones) sort of sucked me in!! Is it me or are these tyre labels actually a bit of a farce?

Being a shed however, is it really worth ditching them? Its a tough call, because a car like a Mk1 Focus loves being thrown around and therefore deserves tyres that allow it do "do its thing".

Anyone else had this sort of dilemma? Choosing the wrong tyres when even a cheap pair cost 20% of the value of the car!!!
My daily shed that ive owned for nearly 3 years,

Ive never purchased tyres for it, as i break mostly VW cars i use the spare wheels that i remove from the cars being broken and run steels on mine (it sees country lanes every day which are very un-kept). Most of the cars i break have brand new spares that have only been used once or twice. Free rubber :-)

VR99

1,270 posts

64 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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greenarrow said:
I replaced the 13 year old budget branded back tyres on my shed last week, as they were frankly scaring me as we move into colder wetter weeks. Got a pair of Kumho Ecowings and put the 7 year old Firestones on the back. Problem is, I think these Kumhos really aren't up to much! Disappointing as I've always had Kumhos in recent years and like them, but those were Ecstas which aren't available in my tyre size. My car has 185/65/14 tyres and you're fairly limited to the eco range of the market. TBH the old Firestones felt more predictable in the wet. Darn, wish I'd spent another £10 a corner and stuck on more Firestones, but the B wet weather Grip and cheaper price of the Kumhos plus B fuel economy (F on the Firestones) sort of sucked me in!! Is it me or are these tyre labels actually a bit of a farce?

Being a shed however, is it really worth ditching them? Its a tough call, because a car like a Mk1 Focus loves being thrown around and therefore deserves tyres that allow it do "do its thing".

Anyone else had this sort of dilemma? Choosing the wrong tyres when even a cheap pair cost 20% of the value of the car!!!
My MK1 focus is in a similar state...changed all 4 tyres last yr to get through MOT but if I get a puncture or need to change a tyre due to wear then tend to buy a used one due to cars shed status. Corners can be a bit hairy though!
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