The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XIX)
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Loving the V10 chat, but I'm going to slow the pace down somewhat...
www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1166114
Only thing is it really is an ornament with those miles!
www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1166114
Only thing is it really is an ornament with those miles!
I run an E61 M5 for 20k miles and 2.5yrs. Nothing went wrong! Apart from my wallet - 19mpg on a long run, 12mpg around SE London. Still look at the classifieds every now and then.
The Audis with the V10 - except the bonkers RS6 which came out around 2010 from memory - are an absolute heap of manure. s
t, complex engines which don't do much except convert fuel into ok noise. Handling is suspect to say the least..
As for Walkers and the M6 - they are a proper BMW specialist - one of my best mates bought his E46 M3 from them - he drives it very hard (and looks after it too) and that car hasn't put a wheel wrong. The M6 in the advert seems insane value for money, given that the usual stuff has been taken care of, it seems a bargain. I would expect at least another 100k trouble free miles.
The E39 just doesn't do it for me against the E60/1- and I can finally pin-point the reason - it is the steering box. And given that BCA are struggling to shift decent sub 80k face lift E60s for more than 9k, the time to buy an E60 is now...
The Audis with the V10 - except the bonkers RS6 which came out around 2010 from memory - are an absolute heap of manure. s
t, complex engines which don't do much except convert fuel into ok noise. Handling is suspect to say the least..As for Walkers and the M6 - they are a proper BMW specialist - one of my best mates bought his E46 M3 from them - he drives it very hard (and looks after it too) and that car hasn't put a wheel wrong. The M6 in the advert seems insane value for money, given that the usual stuff has been taken care of, it seems a bargain. I would expect at least another 100k trouble free miles.
The E39 just doesn't do it for me against the E60/1- and I can finally pin-point the reason - it is the steering box. And given that BCA are struggling to shift decent sub 80k face lift E60s for more than 9k, the time to buy an E60 is now...
Get reward card as you will be visiting it a lot!
I think a lot of the reliability issues come with owning it for a short period, getting issues fixed and then getting rid as you imagine is is going to cost you another 5grand the next year, it evens out over the course of longer ownership. It takes a year to stop getting out in traffic and glaring at the person behind who you think has just driven in to you
Not keen on the Audi offering, looks nice and probably better a continental GT but BMW can do that and reward on the more engaging roads, not a sports car by any stretch, but it can hitch up its skirt and be entertaining on the twisties. Fuel tank is bloody tiny though.
The M6 is a lot of car for 12grand, at that price I would consider a trip to Dinan for a stroker upgrade, although I can’t imagine the costs involved but there is a German M5 running with it at 620bhp, sounds very fruity.
427 is lovely, but I think I would go with a 289 instead.
Output Flange said:
You guys discussing E60/1 M5 issues don't know you're alive.
I've got to shell out for a gearbox rebuild on my E28 M5. The bloody thing has only managed 232k miles.
Livid.
I think Noah had one of them Getrags fitted on the back of the Ark...I've got to shell out for a gearbox rebuild on my E28 M5. The bloody thing has only managed 232k miles.
Livid.
At least parts are cheap and plentiful, and the boxes themselves are really easy to work on.
Try rebuilding a Mezger GT3 box instead - easy to do, horrendously expensive in parts...
^^ sheesh, any chance of some goodwill?.....
As for multiple cylinders, the SRT Jeep has completed 5k miles and we still love it. Let the tank run low as we had a 10p/litre
thing for Tesco.......it swallowed £101.40p of momentum. Most I ever got in the Brabus was around £90 and that lasted longer.
Having said that, it has somehow managed nearly 17mpg overall including short school run, towing caravan and the odd clogging....
and you can't beat bonnet nostrils!
The 3 cylinders of the ST Fiesta continue to impress, 1st service last week, high 30's mpg and just bloody good fun without
going nuts speed wise. Have just bought some Mountune goodies for it as a treat. No map (warranty), just trying to free up
a little more ziz.
Had a drive in a '19 plate Mustang. Enjoyed it, good noise but don't think it could replace the Cerb from a special point
of view unless modded up (a lot). That black Cobra a couple of pages back has just become my new screen saver though!
sticky
As for multiple cylinders, the SRT Jeep has completed 5k miles and we still love it. Let the tank run low as we had a 10p/litre
thing for Tesco.......it swallowed £101.40p of momentum. Most I ever got in the Brabus was around £90 and that lasted longer.
Having said that, it has somehow managed nearly 17mpg overall including short school run, towing caravan and the odd clogging....
and you can't beat bonnet nostrils!
The 3 cylinders of the ST Fiesta continue to impress, 1st service last week, high 30's mpg and just bloody good fun without
going nuts speed wise. Have just bought some Mountune goodies for it as a treat. No map (warranty), just trying to free up
a little more ziz.
Had a drive in a '19 plate Mustang. Enjoyed it, good noise but don't think it could replace the Cerb from a special point
of view unless modded up (a lot). That black Cobra a couple of pages back has just become my new screen saver though!
sticky
My mates GLC63 has averaged 16mpg over the 1st 1k miles he’s had it... half of that was a 70mph run up until M1 
Sounds like thunder, goes like lightening though... I’d have one as a daily, but it would need to be the S for the full wallet emptying experience.
Easy to put >£100 of the black stuff in my Touareg, but at least it was doing 26-27.
Unfortunately, said Touareg has now gone back to VW... and has been replaced by similar 3cyl goodness... a 2015 125bhp 1.0 Ecoboost Focus (Spanish registered) - retirement doesn’t justify chucking £500 a month at a lease car, and moving the 996 to Spain didn’t make sense (so it’s still in storage in hand Uk)
Focus certainly isn’t fast, but otherwise is surprisingly good. Boggo Trend spec, but has parking sensors, folding mirrors, decent stereo, cruise, auto lights/wipers, Bluetooth etc. Rides amazingly well on 16” wheels and 50 profile tyres. Performance has improved after an Italian tune up. Even sounds ok. Fuel economy around 37.
Sounds like thunder, goes like lightening though... I’d have one as a daily, but it would need to be the S for the full wallet emptying experience. Easy to put >£100 of the black stuff in my Touareg, but at least it was doing 26-27.
Unfortunately, said Touareg has now gone back to VW... and has been replaced by similar 3cyl goodness... a 2015 125bhp 1.0 Ecoboost Focus (Spanish registered) - retirement doesn’t justify chucking £500 a month at a lease car, and moving the 996 to Spain didn’t make sense (so it’s still in storage in hand Uk)
Focus certainly isn’t fast, but otherwise is surprisingly good. Boggo Trend spec, but has parking sensors, folding mirrors, decent stereo, cruise, auto lights/wipers, Bluetooth etc. Rides amazingly well on 16” wheels and 50 profile tyres. Performance has improved after an Italian tune up. Even sounds ok. Fuel economy around 37.
Edited by Chris Stott on Thursday 28th November 21:27
Patrick Bateman said:
Here's a thought I've had for a while and I wonder who else thinks along the same lines. It's regarding not missing the boat on opportunities, this particular one being owning a car with a V10 before it's too late...
The sad fact is, short of a windfall, the only affordable, i.e. ~£15k or less, remaining options for such a thing is an M5 or M6 (I'm aware of a few Audi efforts but there's nowhere near the same driver appeal).
Obviously potentially extremely expensive to run but I can't help thinking it might be best to sample such a thing while a few still have comprehensive warranties, otherwise your options are older cars with no warranties or the euros ticket finally coming good.
That was my thinking. Bagged myself a sub 60k miler that qualified for cheaper Mondial warranty and I absolutely love it. So much drama and theatre.The sad fact is, short of a windfall, the only affordable, i.e. ~£15k or less, remaining options for such a thing is an M5 or M6 (I'm aware of a few Audi efforts but there's nowhere near the same driver appeal).
Obviously potentially extremely expensive to run but I can't help thinking it might be best to sample such a thing while a few still have comprehensive warranties, otherwise your options are older cars with no warranties or the euros ticket finally coming good.
I had started off wanting to scratch the V8 itch, but when you can have one of the very few v10s on the road, well it would be rude not to.
I think the neighbours might not have liked me cold starting the thing at 6.30am though, but I had a train to catch!
Both my m5 an m6 are on brand new clutch, flywheels (kit), slave cylinders and upgraded release bearings total parts for both were £2055, one days labour for me to do both including changing smg fluid an gearbox oil /all adaptions . There dead easy to work on hardest bits getting the exhausts off it’s huge
Weekendrebuild said:
Both my m5 an m6 are on brand new clutch, flywheels (kit), slave cylinders and upgraded release bearings total parts for both were £2055, one days labour for me to do both including changing smg fluid an gearbox oil /all adaptions . There dead easy to work on hardest bits getting the exhausts off it’s huge
So when paying someone to do it it's basically £3k for a clutch change.Dan the Flange, what's your E28 'box likely to set you back?
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