The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XIX)

The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XIX)

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Chris Stott

13,365 posts

197 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Love 968’s, but not at £35k!

L100NYY

35,209 posts

243 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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It's annoying/frustrating when you think how much 968 Sports & CS' were selling for only a few years ago isn't it, I considered them many a time whenever I got itchy feet with the various Caterhams I owned but never did it.

However, two things;

1) They look relative value against equivalent E30 M3 and other lightweight/limited build Porsche

2) Doesn't it make things like that yellow 996 look exceptionally good value in todays market

Every cloud 'n all that

L100NYY

35,209 posts

243 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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clubsport said:
L100NYY said:
It's annoying/frustrating when you think how much 968 Sports & CS' were selling for only a few years ago isn't it, I considered them many a time whenever I got itchy feet with the various Caterhams I owned but never did it.

However, two things;

1) They look relative value against equivalent E30 M3 and other lightweight/limited build Porsche

2) Doesn't it make things like that yellow 996 look exceptionally good value in todays market

Every cloud 'n all that
Unfortunately the SY 996 is potentially a £25k car all in if you need engine work, hopefully not, but it still has the maintenance cost of a £60k car with >100k miles.
Look what £25k buys you in terms of modern hot hatches, also a consideration, if you just want to go fast?

I don't feel too bad about ticking the 968CS off of the list, I found it too easy to drive and never had the challenge of a 911 for me.
It would have been nice to have the value increase of a 968CS, it has actually under performed the MSCI global stock index.
After the lack of challenge of the 968CS, I did move to a 993CS in SY, which I still have, it has comfortably kept up with a global stock investment, so it didn't work out too badly? Oh, and I get to drive it! smile
I don't.

Never been my raison d'etre with any car

Edited by L100NYY on Wednesday 17th April 17:01

L100NYY

35,209 posts

243 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Agreed chap yes

It does make you look at the modern performance available, be it hot hatch, fast saloon etc, and you logically would have to think "why bother with old Pork et al" but, well, we do don't we hehe

An early Boxster is a very tempting thing at little money, should have kept hold of my 3.2S with hindsight frown

eta

Maybe I'm getting old but a 996 cabriolet is rather appealing now as a bit of a do everything getmecoat

Edited by L100NYY on Wednesday 17th April 17:07

Cheburator mk2

2,992 posts

199 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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I really do get the E30 M3 - what I don’t get is the value proposition. I can also see why the 924/944/968 platform gets overlooked (unfairly) against the 911s of the era. What I don’t get is how the 4-cylinder Porsche gets overlooked vs. the E30 M3. I have had both, and dare I say it, a well sorted 944T or a 968CS blows an E30 M3 of any guise into the weeds. The 944 is also the product of homologation - it can trace its roots directly from the Carrera GT and the 944 IMSA campaign. In fact, the 944 was homologated for Group B racing too.

Probably answering my own question, but had Porsche campaigned the 944/968s in rallying or circuit racing, we would have lamented their meteoric rise, instead of the humble 3-series saloon.

Fast Bug

11,685 posts

161 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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I believe the 924 is now eligible for historic rallying which may explain why they've had a bit of an uplift in values. My N/A was a great handling car, just not very quick. I suppose the benefit of that is you can drive it flat out down your favourite road and know your licence is safe laugh

MattOz

3,911 posts

264 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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L100NYY said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
https://youtu.be/gAcSYTuzst0

HC takes us on a journey of the best M3s, starting with the e30
Just wibble central isn't it?! An E30 Sport Evo has long been on my 'list' and that video has certainly affirmed that it should be......



All apart from the M3CS are owned by the same guy. He's probably a PH'er. He's a lovely chap with a great taste in cars.

L100NYY

35,209 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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This 924S looks rather nice.....

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1098890

ColdoRS

1,804 posts

127 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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L100NYY said:
This 924S looks rather nice.....

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1098890
Can’t agree with you there I’m afraid.

Fast Bug

11,685 posts

161 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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L100NYY said:
This 924S looks rather nice.....

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1098890
An uncracked dash is somewhere around £1000 for the 924 eek

L100NYY

35,209 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Fast Bug said:
L100NYY said:
This 924S looks rather nice.....

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1098890
An uncracked dash is somewhere around £1000 for the 924 eek
I'll just stick a beaded seat cover over the dash to hide it hehe

L100NYY

35,209 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Chris Stott

13,365 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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I could roll around in that Alvis.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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L100NYY said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
https://youtu.be/gAcSYTuzst0

HC takes us on a journey of the best M3s, starting with the e30
Just wibble central isn't it?! An E30 Sport Evo has long been on my 'list' and that video has certainly affirmed that it should be......
Would be interesting to drive an SZ right after it and see if the Performance Car guys were right ( Performance Car of the Year 1990 where they picked it over the M-car )

Leins

9,468 posts

148 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Just been to visit Sicily and these seem to be everywhere there, particularly the 4x4 variant. While I have little need for one, the desire to own has always been strong for a reason I cannot quite put my finger on. Same goes for a Lada Niva


L100NYY

35,209 posts

243 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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A tidy Panda 4x4 went through auction this week for circa £7.5k

ferrisbueller

29,327 posts

227 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Chris Stott said:
I could roll around in that Alvis.
I bet you couldn't. Meanwhile, Loon would be like a pea in a whistle.

L100NYY

35,209 posts

243 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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tongue out

DeejRC

5,792 posts

82 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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I’m liking those TR6...

L100NYY

35,209 posts

243 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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That one with the bonnet stripe caught my eye