The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XIX)

The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XIX)

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PRO5T

3,969 posts

26 months

Thursday 25th April
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Chris Stott said:
Very nice… other than the spoiler… all kinds of wrong on a long nose.
It's an interesting way of looking at it-you need something back there and ducktails are a bit ubiquitous-I'm all for the smooth looks of the 964 when stationary and the function of it lofted when not. Can't have been cheap adding it to a 964.

ferrisbueller

29,343 posts

228 months

Thursday 25th April
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PRO5T said:
Chris Stott said:
Very nice… other than the spoiler… all kinds of wrong on a long nose.
It's an interesting way of looking at it-you need something back there and ducktails are a bit ubiquitous-I'm all for the smooth looks of the 964 when stationary and the function of it lofted when not. Can't have been cheap adding it to a 964.
It's not a 964?

Or am I due a parrot?

ETA. Just went and did the reading and it's a 964 decklid.

Edited by ferrisbueller on Thursday 25th April 20:17

biggbn

23,446 posts

221 months

Thursday 25th April
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NathanChadwick said:
L100NYY said:
145 Cloverleaf and 146ti were both brilliant cars, loved every drive in them.

Would love an Alfa Red pre facelift Cloverleaf or a Proteo Red ti



Rare things these days. Think we're down to double digits for the Cloverleaf. Mine was rescued from the back of a compound for £750.

It has cost six times that to get it sorted, other than the aesthetics. The 306 GTI-6 is the better car in almost every conceivable area, but there's an effervescent silliness about the 145 that means it's a fun thing to drive around in almost everywhere, if dynamically behind the Pug.
Lack of a sixth gear, a driving position like you're dropping the kids off at the pool and sexy-looking seats with no lateral support whatsoever not withstanding, it's the first car I choose to do a short trip somewhere.
I found mine totally old school, screw the rev counter right round in every gear, it was very 'pointy', nervous in tight corners, chuck it in on the nose and sort out whatever the tail was doing with the throttle or steering, but, very stable on well sighted flowing twisties. Bit of an anomaly that way. Mine felt very well built and never missed a beat.

L100NYY

35,221 posts

244 months

Friday 26th April
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In a similar vein, when I first started with Alfa I had a succession of 147 1.6 Lussos which were utterly brilliant little cars. Fantastic engine and chassis and an interior that felt far more soecial than its rivals. I’d have another.

braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Friday 26th April
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PRO5T said:
It's an interesting way of looking at it-you need something back there and ducktails are a bit ubiquitous-I'm all for the smooth looks of the 964 when stationary and the function of it lofted when not. Can't have been cheap adding it to a 964.
Agreed, I like it. That car is one of the nicest back-dated ones around and the 964 spoiler is a great compromise.



Fast Bug

11,719 posts

162 months

Friday 26th April
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braddo said:
PRO5T said:
It's an interesting way of looking at it-you need something back there and ducktails are a bit ubiquitous-I'm all for the smooth looks of the 964 when stationary and the function of it lofted when not. Can't have been cheap adding it to a 964.
Agreed, I like it. That car is one of the nicest back-dated ones around and the 964 spoiler is a great compromise.
Isn't it a Chris Stott favourite? It's an impact bumper car.

And agreed, it's one of the nicest I've seen for a while. Most back dates have good awful Fuchsalike with hard angled spokes and way too big for the car

MattsCar

978 posts

106 months

Friday 26th April
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On the subject of Alfa 145s...I learned the other day that there was a facelift dashboard, that RHD versions never got, presumably due to manufacturing costs.




braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Friday 26th April
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Fast Bug said:
Isn't it a Chris Stott favourite? It's an impact bumper car.

And agreed, it's one of the nicest I've seen for a while. Most back dates have good awful Fuchsalike with hard angled spokes and way too big for the car
Yep, an 80s 3.2 Carrera.

L100NYY

35,221 posts

244 months

Friday 26th April
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braddo said:
Fast Bug said:
Isn't it a Chris Stott favourite? It's an impact bumper car.

And agreed, it's one of the nicest I've seen for a while. Most back dates have good awful Fuchsalike with hard angled spokes and way too big for the car
Yep, an 80s 3.2 Carrera.
Nope, 3.0 SC originally.

braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Friday 26th April
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L100NYY said:
Nope, 3.0 SC originally.
Sorry, well an IB car and not a 964 hehe

CKY

1,387 posts

16 months

Friday 26th April
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PRO5T said:
Chris Stott said:
Very nice… other than the spoiler… all kinds of wrong on a long nose.
It's an interesting way of looking at it-you need something back there and ducktails are a bit ubiquitous-I'm all for the smooth looks of the 964 when stationary and the function of it lofted when not. Can't have been cheap adding it to a 964.
Love the car, aside from that spoiler... Not sure why you need something, plenty were delivered in-period without and looked all the better for it imo. I remember seeing 964s when they were first released and thinking the piddling little spoiler looked daft when raised.

DeejRC

5,812 posts

83 months

Friday 26th April
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Sue me, but - I like that new MG.
There, I’ve said it out loud.

Daaaveee

910 posts

224 months

Friday 26th April
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MattsCar said:
On the subject of Alfa 145s...I learned the other day that there was a facelift dashboard, that RHD versions never got, presumably due to manufacturing costs.



Interesting, I did not know this!

Love a bit of 145/146 chat. Here was mine back in 2005, loved that thing and wish 19 year old me never sold it, like many of us with our previous cars I guess. The best spec in my opinion, proteo red facelift 155bhp Cloverleaf with the tan Momo leather love


GeniusOfLove

1,389 posts

13 months

Friday 26th April
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GeniusOfLove said:
Speaking of going mad with the options list, I spotted a 2018 BMW 540i tourer, one owner from new and 42k miles at BCA.

Original RRP apparently £48,690 and it has £22,405 of options. CAP clean is £21,550, it's quite an appealing though to buy it for less than someone paid for the options 6 years ago.



Interior is dogmess brown too



A lot of the time German cars will have £3k of options for stuff that really should have been standard.




Very nice car, £25k CAP retail but with those options I'd not be surprised to see it up for (and fetch) £35k once it gets retailed.
Looks like this got £30,100 in the end, nearly 50% over CAP clean.

snotrag

14,465 posts

212 months

Friday 26th April
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On the theme of 90's Hatches - I was never a VW guy - I had a GTi-6 and loved the 145 too.

This tab just seems to be a frequent ficture of mine for some reason though. My 'toys' have always been 4 seaters I keep thinking of some sort of modern classic that the whole family can take for days out, pub lunch or a trip to the seaside in the summer.

- We used to think these were the 'worst' one - but now its from the past, I'm not sure it is, especially now its just a car to cruise in, take to a show, park up, enjoy, keep it shiny. Who cares if it understeers more than 4 pot.

- If you remember what these used to cost, it seems like a lot. But its a bona fide modern classic, its survived the early 00s Max Power era unscathed, not been VW scene'd, and has that fabulous party trick engine note.

- As a 1985 vintage, I'm an absolute sucker for dog cock red, shiny black trim, lovely shiny silver lattice wheels... This is the car that ten year old me would look up in the index of Autocar, mouthing "two point eight litres....wowwwww"

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/326050144858?mkcid=16&a...



Like I said, not typically a VW guy but it is pretty lovely hey?


Crook

6,791 posts

225 months

Friday 26th April
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I think that you're quite right on the joy to be had from something like that Golf.

It was the audacity of a 6 cylinder engine in a hot hatch, was the VR6 the first?

My dad had the Corrado VR6 way back when and it was a great thing with the active spoiler too.


bodhi

10,545 posts

230 months

Friday 26th April
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That is lovely, although as a serial Mk3 owner I can confirm the 16v was the better steer. Almost as quick but without all the weight on the front end.

The VR6 was a brilliant mini-GT however, and sounded lovely.

snotrag

14,465 posts

212 months

Friday 26th April
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Exactly, and I reckon it would be pretty painless/easy to own too. Easy and cheap to service, can still get the bits, just need to keep putting fuel in. Satisfying.

L100NYY

35,221 posts

244 months

Friday 26th April
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I always quite fancied (and still do) a Dragon Green
Mk3 16v.

I had a mk2 GTI but that, errrr, ummm, ‘fell over’ in a field one night hehe

Chris Stott

13,392 posts

198 months

Friday 26th April
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Fast Bug said:
Isn't it a Chris Stott favourite? It's an impact bumper car.

And agreed, it's one of the nicest I've seen for a while. Most back dates have good awful Fuchsalike with hard angled spokes and way too big for the car
Yeah, but that one’s had the hideous bumpers removed… and replaced with something vastly prettier biggrin

Personally, I’m like them without a rear spoiler.