RE: 200mph, 545hp per tonne Ginetta unveiled

[cookie1600]

lufbramatt said:

Can't help but think the camouflaging effect of photographing a silver car on a foggy day was done on purpose.

Good god, do you mean it looks worse in clear, bright sunlight?

[MX6]

I was looking again at some older Ginetta's, the G40 is a car I really like the look of. It has a modern take on the traditional British sports car form, I can't help but think that even though the G40 is much more humble in performance terms, this type of shape would have been a much better starting point for a higher performance machine, more in keeping with Ginetta lineage.





Saying that, it looks like Ginetta have prioritised highly functional aero ahead of aethetics so I guess that is the main reason why the car has ended up looking the way it does. With this new car, it looks to me like they've initially designed a more modest sports coupe, and it's evolved into something more extreme than originally intended.

[romac]

MDUBZ said:

There was a lot of criticism thrown at the new TVR for not being radical enough on the design front.. fk me Ginetta listened and accepted the challenge - as per the mouth ulcer comment i have to keep going back to take a look at it: what a mess! I’d love a go in one though.. bonkers!

Edit: see i went back - 12 already accounted for! Aside form the obvious stevie wonder joke anyone care to ‘fess up?

And i’m Not sure you’d want to be hit by one, at least you’d be able to stack the body parts for easy removal

Thanks! Knew I'd seen an early prototype somewhere!

[adzpz]

Would be a brave/crazy person to ignore all the established supercar brands and opt for this "distinctive" beast.

[British Beef]

Too fusy, long, narrow and ill proportioned, otherwise not bad :-)

I think the old saying rings true with sports car design:

"A beautiful looking bad car will outsell an ugly great car".

With modern aero, there is a compromise to be made, Ginetta have not found it with this, although unique it certainly is!

[gwardman]

cookie1600 said:

To be fair, what Ginetta have done here is create an automotive Susan Boyle.

It may be absolutely brilliant when you close your eyes, but if you do that then you're going to crash.

At least if you buy one, there is one less to look at from the outside!

I don't know where that analogy with Susan Boyle is going

[cidered77]

Bespoke (looks like? Has it been confirmed?) N/A engine. Race sequential box, carbon tub, massive downforce, racecar heritage - looks a bit odd.

Last point doesn't outweigh the first few - quick scan of the comments here suggests i'm in a minority on that.

I like it. Can't afford it, could never afford it- but still like it. Looks raw - and like a racecar, and racecars don't care what they look like as long as they're fast.

Good luck to them.

[jpf]

Uhh, bring back the G60?

[Pwig]

Because nobody else has:

[glazbagun]

sege said:

This is the world today.
Ginetta announce a serious new superdupercar and 99% of the reaction is if people like how it looks or not.
No comments on the fact that the engine is developed in house? wondering who they have partnered with?
No comments on the 375kg of downforce @ 100mpg and what cars that is comparable to?
No comments on it being N/A?
No comments on it eschewing electronic power steering?
No comments on the claim that you will be able to steer it on the throttle without electronic aids?

You're not car fans. You're a bunch of tarts.

[aazer89]

glazbagun said:

sege said:

This is the world today.
Ginetta announce a serious new superdupercar and 99% of the reaction is if people like how it looks or not.
No comments on the fact that the engine is developed in house? wondering who they have partnered with?
No comments on the 375kg of downforce @ 100mpg and what cars that is comparable to?
No comments on it being N/A?
No comments on it eschewing electronic power steering?
No comments on the claim that you will be able to steer it on the throttle without electronic aids?

You're not car fans. You're a bunch of tarts.

Many good points here, the world today is all about looks - and personally I quite like how it looks. Dared to be different and then add in the above points - winner

[gifdy]

Why not start with this ?

[MX6]

aazer89 said:

glazbagun said:

sege said:

This is the world today.
Ginetta announce a serious new superdupercar and 99% of the reaction is if people like how it looks or not.
No comments on the fact that the engine is developed in house? wondering who they have partnered with?
No comments on the 375kg of downforce @ 100mpg and what cars that is comparable to?
No comments on it being N/A?
No comments on it eschewing electronic power steering?
No comments on the claim that you will be able to steer it on the throttle without electronic aids?

You're not car fans. You're a bunch of tarts.

Many good points here, the world today is all about looks - and personally I quite like how it looks. Dared to be different and then add in the above points - winner

I see the points being made here, but the reaction probably reflects quite well the fact that 99% of people looking at a £400k supercar will expect it to at least look good as well as be well engineered, and will compare it in this regard to it rivals at this price - all the established names.

I think these news article will always attract a lot of comments on the visual aspects as often there's not all that much other information to go on beside the images. We can't drive the car, experience what it's like behind the wheel, what it sounds like, etc.

[Convert]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoXORtIibwQ

Got to say . not a fan of the styling, i do hope it's function over form though.

Good luck with it Mr T.

[dandarez]

MX6 said:

I was looking again at some older Ginetta's, the G40 is a car I really like the look of. It has a modern take on the traditional British sports car form, I can't help but think that even though the G40 is much more humble in performance terms, this type of shape would have been a much better starting point for a higher performance machine, more in keeping with Ginetta lineage.

I see what you're saying, but to a hardened Ginetta fan, a G40 - an older Ginetta?
G40 is a 'recent' Ginetta.

THIS is an 'older' Ginetta.

And even this model is 10 yrs younger than the oldest model.

[Europa1]

Pwig said:

Because nobody else has:

Nope, that ship sailed yesterday.

[MX6]

dandarez said:

I see what you're saying, but to a hardened Ginetta fan, a G40 - an older Ginetta?
G40 is a 'recent' Ginetta.

Sorry I meant a Ginetta older than this new one. I was trying to make the point that the G40 is a relatively recent and modern design that looks very nice to my eye at least. Plus seemingly more in keeping with the style of past Ginetta's. I don't really know much at all about Ginetta's besides what I have read on wikipedia, I only came across the G40 relatively recently but really liked the shape of it...

[Fast Eddie]

Yup, there's always that annoying gap in the market at around £400k

[The Don of Croy]

Help me with the economics (for I have no experience here)...

20 cars @ £400k = £8M t/o per year. Not too shabby, but hardly enough to recoup megabucks on all the development costs of a supercar you can use anywhere, no?

Engine machined out of a block (is that what billet means?) - why? Cheaper for small runs (like 20 per year) presumably. But if it were optimal would it be more prevalent? I know TVR made the flat plane 6 cylinder back in the day, but I also know a bloke who stripped one to service/repair and he was less than complimentary about the low volume nature of the thing.

I really want independant UK manufacturers to do well, employ more skilled people, and earn bucket loads of foreign lolly...and wish them well with this. But will the numbers stack up? And will punters with £400k to splash on a new bauble be won over if it's been cobbled together on a typical UK shoestring budget?

[MX6]

I'm no expert but I imagine these cars with be put together in the mannor of a racing car, albeit a road legal one. I doubt it will undergo anything like the same kind of design and development that a volume manufacturer would put in.