RE: 720hp Ferrari F8 Tributo replaces 488 GTB

[WCZ]

Wammer said:

How come when McLaren bring out a new car they get slated for it looking the same as the previous model but when Ferrari bring out something that is based on a Ten year old design they get praised.

The design of this car is older than all of McLaren Automotive's cars.

Food for thought.

for a ferrari it is getting quite a bit of stick for this here and elsewhere

[WCZ]

Ares said:

By numbers, you mean sales? How much could you charge for a 400bhp manual Ferrari that got it's arse kicked by a £35k hatchback?

it'd still be £100k and devalue the brand massively

if they some how made a £50k car then it'd kill the brand

[viggyp]

Greg the Fish said:

couldn't resist. Pick your fave.













One of each please (except the 348. Have never liked that.) Red's fine ta.

355 for me although after seeing all these modelshammer it at Brooklands during the Auto-Italia event, the 348 was easily the best sounding of the lot. No synthetic sounds, just pure metallic sensations.

[High Roller]

A handsome car, but I find the following a bit of a challenge (boom boom)...

[Ares]

JMF894 said:

It needs bigger steering wheel paddles...............

When you use them (column mounted) they are perfectly sized.

[1974foggy]

Lovely wheel design, but looks a bit odd from some angles mainly the side vent i think? A welcome return of the twin rear lights though, rear looks fab.

[viggyp]

Audemars said:

jl34 said:

disappointing. Looks like a facelift 488 to me. Especially don't like the huge vents on the rear arches, the 458 was a much cleaner more aesthetic design in my eyes.

Those vents are the best bits imo and is why the 458 is so bland in comparison as too the 720s. The 720 needs such side vents not those ugly side flaps it currently has.

Agree 100%. The 458 is a good looking car but the rear 3/4 just looks so bland with nothing there. The 488/F8 look great with the vents which provide a purpose which is to feed air to the intercoolers.

[Ares]

WCZ said:

Ares said:

By numbers, you mean sales? How much could you charge for a 400bhp manual Ferrari that got it's arse kicked by a £35k hatchback?

it'd still be £100k and devalue the brand massively

if they some how made a £50k car then it'd kill the brand

Exactly. This is the market they are pushing Alfa into (even though they are no longer really siblings)

[Ares]

epom said:

If this hasn't got 3 turbo's someone needs a stern talking to !!!

You know Tributo means Tribute (or tax randomly).

[1974foggy]

Wammer said:

How come when McLaren bring out a new car they get slated for it looking the same as the previous model but when Ferrari bring out something that is based on a Ten year old design they get praised.

The design of this car is older than all of McLaren Automotive's cars.

Food for thought.

Because nearly all McLarens are quite ugly?

[anonymous-user]

Ares said:

garyhun said:

It’s a bit strange.

There’s always one facelift and then a new model (348-355, 360-430, 458-458) so this should be completely new.

Perhaps Louis Camilleri didn't get your email about the rules for his business??

No need to be an arse. I’m just curious as to why they’ve changed their own form book.

[Ares]

garyhun said:

Ares said:

garyhun said:

It’s a bit strange.

There’s always one facelift and then a new model (348-355, 360-430, 458-458) so this should be completely new.

Perhaps Louis Camilleri didn't get your email about the rules for his business??

No need to be an arse. I’m just curious as to why they’ve changed their own form book.

....maybe there was no 'rule book' or 'form book'? Maybe they just looked at each iteration as a stand alone project and worked out the best solution rather than feeling the need to reinvent the wheel?

[TIGA84]

Great looking thing - funny to think though that the 355 (which is 25 years old this year) had 375bhp, pretty much half (and I'm sure when the Pista/Speciale/Veloce etc etc) version surfaces with a few more horses and less carpet, it will be half.

I do think that there's a market for Ferrari at a lower end though, 488's with spec are 2-250k - I'm not sure on the Portofino but they've got to be £150-175k?? - there must be a case to have something like a 4C, light, pretty, with a smaller engine, V6T maybe at 80-120k, that would be interesting.

Throwing more power at a facelift feels like a cop out.

[AmosMoses]

Why are Ferrari so damn good at making super cars, this looks awesome, has a fantastic engine and i bet it will drive tremendous. Only criticism is the cabin looks like the 458's did... But that wouldn't put me off, stunning!

[Thankyou4calling]

WCZ said:

it'd still be £100k and devalue the brand massively

if they some how made a £50k car then it'd kill the brand

I can’t see how it would kill the brand at all.

Plenty of brands (car and other) cover massive price point ranges and as far as I can see they aren’t dead.

[_Leg_]

TIGA84 said:

I do think that there's a market for Ferrari at a lower end though, 488's with spec are 2-250k - I'm not sure on the Portofino but they've got to be £150-175k?? - there must be a case to have something like a 4C, light, pretty, with a smaller engine, V6T maybe at 80-120k, that would be interesting.

Throwing more power at a facelift feels like a cop out.

If FIAT don’t introduce some Alfa models in the 80-200k range to sit under the Ferrari range, given the Alfa heritage and stunning designs from pre 1970 Alfa, they’re bonkers. The market is begging out for it and their designers only need to wander round the Alfa museum for a day for inspiration.

[Esceptico]

To be used on the road I would prefer my old 360 CS. That was already quick enough (too quick really). Sounded much better (you can't beat NA) and looked less fussy. If I were going for a newer car than the CS I would take a 458 Speciale over any 488.

[wab172uk]

_Leg_ said:

2018 was the first year I haven’t bought a car in as long as I can remember.

I’ve been waiting. Waiting for the new Ferrari V8. I’ve been told it’s going to be a game changer, it’ll have a hybrid Powertrain, all new design, ya da ya da. Dealers talk absolute ste. Sat on the cash for months now not buying anything waiting for something interesting and what do we get? A 488 facelift and still turbocharged. Slightly different bodywork, tarted up interior and more power, that we don’t need.

Ffs. If Ferrari can’t be arsed, neither can I. I’m actually annoyed. They’re gonna love me when I get on the stand at Geneva. ;-)

Edited by _Leg_ on Thursday 28th February 12:26

I'm sure they'll not give a Toss if you buy one or not. There'll be a large que of people to take your place for one.

I'd also like to see you on the stand at Geneva. Giving some salesman / woman stick. Wonder how they'll remove you from the stand? Arm lock or Head lock?

[Jimbo89]

TIGA84 said:

Great looking thing - funny to think though that the 355 (which is 25 years old this year) had 375bhp, pretty much half (and I'm sure when the Pista/Speciale/Veloce etc etc) version surfaces with a few more horses and less carpet, it will be half.

I do think that there's a market for Ferrari at a lower end though, 488's with spec are 2-250k - I'm not sure on the Portofino but they've got to be £150-175k?? - there must be a case to have something like a 4C, light, pretty, with a smaller engine, V6T maybe at 80-120k, that would be interesting.

Throwing more power at a facelift feels like a cop out.

I spent a bit of time in a first gen California (which was a £215k spec when it left the factory ) and a 458 Spider. The 458 would have been the better car on a blast round Silverstone but I actually preferred the Cali on the road, it was a better size for UK roads, it felt more accessable, more usable. At 450bhp with that N/A V8 you could actually whack it to the top of the revs in a couple of gears without constantly having to jump on the slow pedal straight away, it was more than fast enough on Yorkshire country roads.

I'm not saying Ferrari should dilute the brand or start making competitors to things like the Alpine on pricing but I do think theres a market for a slightly smaller, lighter and less powerful Ferrari with a real focus on dynamics over speed . Even the Portofino is 600bhp now.

[E65Ross]

br d said:

I think it's a better looking car than the 488.

You and me both mate! Hope you're keeping well - and thanks once again