RE: Tesla to close showrooms in favour of web
Discussion
A question for the guys who own and run a Tesla.
When you purchased the car, did economy factor in the purchase? Or was it just a fun toy that had a bit of man maths/environmental stuff about it?
If economy did factor, how does the recent price cut eat in to those savings you predicted? Or are you on a fixed price pcp style arrangement whereby you’re protected?
And if you’re looking at a Tesla, would this event make you think twice about buying one in the manner you had considered?
When you purchased the car, did economy factor in the purchase? Or was it just a fun toy that had a bit of man maths/environmental stuff about it?
If economy did factor, how does the recent price cut eat in to those savings you predicted? Or are you on a fixed price pcp style arrangement whereby you’re protected?
And if you’re looking at a Tesla, would this event make you think twice about buying one in the manner you had considered?
ChocolateFrog said:
Just read that Tesla have knocked 50k off the most expensive P100D.
Not sure if true but if it is their profit margins can't be too bad.
They don't sell many p100d, if they boost salad of that model over the standard 100d and make more it'll work out well. Not sure if true but if it is their profit margins can't be too bad.
It does cost more to produce but how much more we don't know
Glasgowrob said:
still dont understand why anyone dropping 80-100k on a car would not be visiting a dealer at least to look at a car first,
sure you might order online but you wont do it blind, you'd still be in a dealer first for a look
When you can offset the full purchase cost against your tax bill in the first 12 months.....sure you might order online but you wont do it blind, you'd still be in a dealer first for a look
Who gives a flying fcuck if you can’t drive it first.
Julian Thompson said:
A question for the guys who own and run a Tesla.
When you purchased the car, did economy factor in the purchase? Or was it just a fun toy that had a bit of man maths/environmental stuff about it?
If economy did factor, how does the recent price cut eat in to those savings you predicted? Or are you on a fixed price pcp style arrangement whereby you’re protected?
And if you’re looking at a Tesla, would this event make you think twice about buying one in the manner you had considered?
Economy didn't factor for us.When you purchased the car, did economy factor in the purchase? Or was it just a fun toy that had a bit of man maths/environmental stuff about it?
If economy did factor, how does the recent price cut eat in to those savings you predicted? Or are you on a fixed price pcp style arrangement whereby you’re protected?
And if you’re looking at a Tesla, would this event make you think twice about buying one in the manner you had considered?
We wanted to PCP simply so we didn't have to own it (didn't want a £150k Betamax etc) but the finance company were rude and useless, so in the end we paid for it in full. We worked out as long as it is worth £20k at 3 years old we'll come out better off than PCP. Even with the price drop, I'm sure it'll fetch 20% of it's (post price drop) cost at 3 years with very low miles.
coyft said:
cptsideways said:
coyft said:
I wonder how close Tesla are to regulatory approval of a fully autonomous vehicle?
Far nearer than just about anybody else that is for sure, they have gleaned a LOT of real road user data.Also, I know it isn't self drive, the auto lights and wipers are significantly worse on our X than on our Golf! It doesn't have a windscreen rain sensor, instead using other ones to 'work out' whether it will need to wipe the screen. It doesn't work. It's crap.
Baldchap said:
coyft said:
cptsideways said:
coyft said:
I wonder how close Tesla are to regulatory approval of a fully autonomous vehicle?
Far nearer than just about anybody else that is for sure, they have gleaned a LOT of real road user data.Also, I know it isn't self drive, the auto lights and wipers are significantly worse on our X than on our Golf! It doesn't have a windscreen rain sensor, instead using other ones to 'work out' whether it will need to wipe the screen. It doesn't work. It's crap.
Baldchap said:
Truthfully I'm not convinced it's any more advanced than the assists on the Golf. Adaptive cruise and lane assist is essentially all the Tesla is doing, which has been standard on the Golf since the 7 was launched in 2013. The Golf knows to accelerate when I signal to move right, not to undertake and has far better understanding of where lanes are than the X does. I also trust that VW have not rushed it to market like Tesla seems to with new features...
Also, I know it isn't self drive, the auto lights and wipers are significantly worse on our X than on our Golf! It doesn't have a windscreen rain sensor, instead using other ones to 'work out' whether it will need to wipe the screen. It doesn't work. It's crap.
The Golf didn't have lane assist as standard in 2013.Also, I know it isn't self drive, the auto lights and wipers are significantly worse on our X than on our Golf! It doesn't have a windscreen rain sensor, instead using other ones to 'work out' whether it will need to wipe the screen. It doesn't work. It's crap.
Baldchap said:
We worked out as long as it is worth £20k at 3 years old we'll come out better off than PCP. Even with the price drop, I'm sure it'll fetch 20% of it's (post price drop) cost at 3 years with very low miles.
Can I ask a couple of questions:-- How many miles do you do a year?
- What competitors were you benchmarking against for cost (fuel / depreciation / etc.)?
skwdenyer said:
Baldchap said:
coyft said:
cptsideways said:
coyft said:
I wonder how close Tesla are to regulatory approval of a fully autonomous vehicle?
Far nearer than just about anybody else that is for sure, they have gleaned a LOT of real road user data.Also, I know it isn't self drive, the auto lights and wipers are significantly worse on our X than on our Golf! It doesn't have a windscreen rain sensor, instead using other ones to 'work out' whether it will need to wipe the screen. It doesn't work. It's crap.
Doofus said:
Baldchap said:
Truthfully I'm not convinced it's any more advanced than the assists on the Golf. Adaptive cruise and lane assist is essentially all the Tesla is doing, which has been standard on the Golf since the 7 was launched in 2013. The Golf knows to accelerate when I signal to move right, not to undertake and has far better understanding of where lanes are than the X does. I also trust that VW have not rushed it to market like Tesla seems to with new features...
Also, I know it isn't self drive, the auto lights and wipers are significantly worse on our X than on our Golf! It doesn't have a windscreen rain sensor, instead using other ones to 'work out' whether it will need to wipe the screen. It doesn't work. It's crap.
The Golf didn't have lane assist as standard in 2013.Also, I know it isn't self drive, the auto lights and wipers are significantly worse on our X than on our Golf! It doesn't have a windscreen rain sensor, instead using other ones to 'work out' whether it will need to wipe the screen. It doesn't work. It's crap.
Point being it existed and worked well.
havoc said:
Baldchap said:
We worked out as long as it is worth £20k at 3 years old we'll come out better off than PCP. Even with the price drop, I'm sure it'll fetch 20% of it's (post price drop) cost at 3 years with very low miles.
Can I ask a couple of questions:-- How many miles do you do a year?
- What competitors were you benchmarking against for cost (fuel / depreciation / etc.)?
Not benchmarking at all. We wanted a Model X.
Got to admit, despite the failings, more companies need to do fun stuff like this...
https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musk-tesla-new-east...
https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musk-tesla-new-east...
Baldchap said:
Not benchmarking at all. We wanted a Model X.
Interesting.So despite not being the right user-profile* to make sense of a high purchase price EV, you bought one anyway. Fair enough...but that does rather limit your credibility when touting Tesla's credentials...
...as very few people in the world can afford to dump a load of additional cash on a car JUST because it's an EV.
By a more balanced measure, a Panamera Sport Tourismo or an E63 wagon would have made equally-practical, equally-quick (broad range of measures, not 0-60) steeds with far better PQ, more kit and better residuals, while at 6k miles a year the running costs difference would have been negligible (<£1k a year of fuel against >£15k a year depreciation)
* High-mileage with few journeys >50% typical range, where fuel saving offsets purchase price.
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