RE: Porsche 911 (992) Carrera S Cabriolet: Driven

RE: Porsche 911 (992) Carrera S Cabriolet: Driven

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anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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st4 said:
You don’t see them that often. You’ll see a lot more Boxsters and Caymans. And almost without fail these are second cars.

Miles off topic I’m going to look at MX5s and the costs of leasing one just for the summer.
You're telling me I don't see them that often?

Well, I see quite a few. And also Range Rovers, S Class mercs etc. All around the same money. None are second cars that's the point of them.

st4

1,359 posts

134 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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yonex said:
You're telling me I don't see them that often?

Well, I see quite a few. And also Range Rovers, S Class mercs etc. All around the same money. None are second cars that's the point of them.
Err - yeah a 911 is more often than not a second, third or maybe fourth car. I knew a wealthy chap who had a 911 and he was very into cars. Single fella. He also had a CLS. It just wasn’t suitable as a main car. Neither is a Boxster.

You see a lot more range rovers than S classes or 911s - why because they’re usually the main car in a rich persons household. People who are “into cars and/or enjoy driving” might buy 911s but they do not make up the bulk of rich people.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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st4 said:
Err - yeah a 911 is more often than not a second, third or maybe fourth car. I knew a wealthy chap who had a 911 and he was very into cars. Single fella. He also had a CLS. It just wasn’t suitable as a main car. Neither is a Boxster.

You see a lot more range rovers than S classes or 911s - why because they’re usually the main car in a rich persons household. People who are “into cars and/or enjoy driving” might buy 911s but they do not make up the bulk of rich people.
A 911 isn't generally a weekend car, GT versions not included.

Robert-nszl1

401 posts

89 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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st4 said:
Jesus wept. Either you’re a very delicate wall flower, very good at bending spoons but not much else or on a wind up mission. I think it has to be the last.

This thread is actually pitiful. You don’t see many 911s on the road but plenty of 3 series. This is because 911s are very expensive, only rich people can really afford them new, and there’s not nearly as many rich people in the world.
I suppose to a large degree it depends on your definition of rich. 911s are more expensive than the average car, but 'very expensive'? In the context of some of the cars available I wouldn't say so. You suggest the thread is pitiful; maybe but you do rather add fuel to the fire!

Paul_M3

2,372 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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st4 said:
Err - yeah a 911 is more often than not a second, third or maybe fourth car. I knew a wealthy chap who had a 911 and he was very into cars. Single fella. He also had a CLS. It just wasn’t suitable as a main car. Neither is a Boxster.
Not sure I really agree with this.

The whole point of a 911 is that it’s perfectly usable as a main car. I’ve got a 991 C4S and it’s my only car.

If anything, I’d say a modern 911 is too sensible/boring to be a weekend only car. If I had a normal car for during the week, my weekend toy would be an Exige or something more extreme like that.

st4

1,359 posts

134 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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yonex said:
A 911 isn't generally a weekend car, GT versions not included.
I don’t agree. Some might use them day to day but the bulk of them will be second cars. You see this in the classifieds that the bulk of them don’t cover a major milliage - bar the odd exception.

Robert-nszl1

401 posts

89 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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st4 said:
You don’t see them that often. You’ll see a lot more Boxsters and Caymans. And almost without fail these are second cars.

Miles off topic I’m going to look at MX5s and the costs of leasing one just for the summer.
And rather than waste money on a new car lease, why not finance an early 997 for the summer? You won't lose money on it (important as you aren't 'rich'), and they are in a different league to an MX5 in terms of excitement.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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st4 said:
I don’t agree. Some might use them day to day but the bulk of them will be second cars. You see this in the classifieds that the bulk of them don’t cover a major milliage - bar the odd exception.
You might not, but the 911 is an everything car. The new Carrera S starts at £93K, a Vogue RR starts at £83K, the SE £90K

These are not unobtainable vehicles. Hence the volumes sold.

st4

1,359 posts

134 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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Robert-nszl1 said:
And rather than waste money on a new car lease, why not finance an early 997 for the summer? You won't lose money on it (important as you aren't 'rich'), and they are in a different league to an MX5 in terms of excitement.
I don’t want the hassle of running an old car - an early 997 is a bit of a lottery and probably a bit of a money pit particularly if something needs done on it. But I take your point - there’s room for something more powerful and exciting for a summer car. They never made a 370z drop top did they?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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st4 said:
I don’t want the hassle of running an old car - an early 997 is a bit of a lottery and probably a bit of a money pit particularly if something needs done on it. But I take your point - there’s room for something more powerful and exciting for a summer car. They never made a 370z drop top did they?
Yes.

st4

1,359 posts

134 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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anonymous said:
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That is heroic and probably not the norm for one of these.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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st4 said:
That is heroic and probably not the norm for one of these.
It's just a car. What do you expect?

Heroic carrying cardboard. In. A. car.

fking boxster owners biggrin

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GranCab

2,902 posts

147 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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@ st4 ... I'm convinced you actually want one of these for summer ..... just your cup of tea, old boy ....






Robert-nszl1

401 posts

89 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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st4 said:
I don’t want the hassle of running an old car - an early 997 is a bit of a lottery and probably a bit of a money pit particularly if something needs done on it. But I take your point - there’s room for something more powerful and exciting for a summer car. They never made a 370z drop top did they?
Get a a boxster if that is your concern. Not sure the 370z is much cop though not driven it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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Robert-nszl1 said:
Get a a boxster if that is your concern. Not sure the 370z is much cop though not driven it.
wouldn't, too many issues and tbh, they're a bit gutless, in between detonating themselves to pieces.

st4

1,359 posts

134 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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GranCab said:
@ st4 ... I'm convinced you actually want one of these for summer ..... just your cup of tea, old boy ....





That looks superb

Baldchap

7,700 posts

93 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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st4 said:
GranCab said:
@ st4 ... I'm convinced you actually want one of these for summer ..... just your cup of tea, old boy ....





That looks superb
It's a Soarer. You're thinking of a big Skoda. laugh

61GT

579 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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Amused how so many Porsche (and 911 in particular) threads quickly descend into arguments around money/wealth/income and resale values rofl

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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st4 said:
Ares said:
Or is obsessed/hung-up by cars he assumes are financed, and therefore deems they are lesser mortals/drivers and deserving of derision?
Jesus wept. Either you’re a very delicate wall flower, very good at bending spoons but not much else or on a wind up mission. I think it has to be the last.

This thread is actually pitiful. You don’t see many 911s on the road but plenty of 3 series. This is because 911s are very expensive, only rich people can really afford them new, and there’s not nearly as many rich people in the world.
Again, you are wrong about everything you've written there. But keep enjoying the Lexus.

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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st4 said:
yonex said:
You're telling me I don't see them that often?

Well, I see quite a few. And also Range Rovers, S Class mercs etc. All around the same money. None are second cars that's the point of them.
Err - yeah a 911 is more often than not a second, third or maybe fourth car. I knew a wealthy chap who had a 911 and he was very into cars. Single fella. He also had a CLS. It just wasn’t suitable as a main car. Neither is a Boxster.

You see a lot more range rovers than S classes or 911s - why because they’re usually the main car in a rich persons household. People who are “into cars and/or enjoy driving” might buy 911s but they do not make up the bulk of rich people.
As said above, and as pretty much everyone outside of Lexus world has said, 911s are bought ever more so, as daily drivers, hence why Porsche have shifted to make them more and more usable as sole car/every day car. I only know one person that for whom his 911 isn't his only car, and he is actually the only rich person amongst 20/25 owners.

FWIW, every Boxster/Cayman owner I know uses it as a daily driver/sole car too. You are just out of grip with reality, or still live in 1975/Norwich, Alan.