RE: Porsche 911 (992) Carrera S Cabriolet: Driven
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kbf1981 said:
Top 1% in the UK:
- Top 1% for income = £99k salary / income
- Top 1% for wealth = £688k in assets owned
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_United...
Where pistonheads people get the idea that every other person earns £100k from, is bonkers, and not true. If you live in london surrounded by bankers the whole time, maybe you have a skewed perspective. In the vast majority of the country, £30k is considered a good salary. Look at the data.
Those are the IFS figures from 2007/2008.- Top 1% for income = £99k salary / income
- Top 1% for wealth = £688k in assets owned
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_United...
Where pistonheads people get the idea that every other person earns £100k from, is bonkers, and not true. If you live in london surrounded by bankers the whole time, maybe you have a skewed perspective. In the vast majority of the country, £30k is considered a good salary. Look at the data.
ONS figures for 2018 (via HMRC) quote 1.7m earning £100k+
£30k is pretty much the average adult salary.
Ares said:
You're wrong. Just as you are about....well....pretty much everything 
No I think you’re being a putz. £100k, despite what you think, is a lot of money that very very few can afford to spend on a car that’s more than likely in addition to the main household car. It’s a luxury option. As you’ve been told £30k is deemed a good salary, and this car costs more than three times this. It’s why you don’t see 911s all that often out on the roads. st4 said:
No I think you’re being a putz. £100k, despite what you think, is a lot of money that very very few can afford to spend on a car that’s more than likely in addition to the main household car. It’s a luxury option. As you’ve been told £30k is deemed a good salary, and this car costs more than three times this. It’s why you don’t see 911s all that often out on the roads.
You're kidding. 911's are quite common?
st4 said:
Ares said:
You're wrong. Just as you are about....well....pretty much everything
No I think you’re being a putz. £100k, despite what you think, is a lot of money that very very few can afford to spend on a car that’s more than likely in addition to the main household car. It’s a luxury option. As you’ve been told £30k is deemed a good salary, and this car costs more than three times this. It’s why you don’t see 911s all that often out on the roads. And if you don't see 911s all that often out on the roads then you are spending too much time licking your Lexus cabin.
Ares said:
And if you don't see 911s all that often out on the roads then you are spending too much time licking your Lexus cabin.
I’m a brilliant brilliant man - but I can’t turn a sea of hire car pilot silver and white £300/month 320d/c220d/a160d/golf tdi into lots of 911s.This thread is very Marie Antoinette “let them eat brioche” - or a very thinly veiled attempt by you to let us know how rich you are.
st4 said:
Ares said:
And if you don't see 911s all that often out on the roads then you are spending too much time licking your Lexus cabin.
I’m a brilliant brilliant man - but I can’t turn a sea of hire car pilot silver and white £300/month 320d/c220d/a160d/golf tdi into lots of 911s.This thread is very Marie Antoinette “let them eat brioche” - or a very thinly veiled attempt by you to let us know how rich you are.
And any chance you could put the bold bit into English?
st4 said:
I’m a brilliant brilliant man - but I can’t turn a sea of hire car pilot silver and white £300/month 320d/c220d/a160d/golf tdi into lots of 911s.
This thread is very Marie Antoinette “let them eat brioche” - or a very thinly veiled attempt by you to let us know how rich you are.
Most new 911s will be financed in some way; just because you have money doesn't mean you necessarily want it tied in a car, especially when interest rates are low. Porsches don't depreciate as badly as many cars, so that often means the lease terms aren't too onerous. I think it's fair to say most will be above average income that drive them, but I wouldn't say you need to be rich. Often they are only cars / daily drives as they are way more practical than other sports cars. This thread is very Marie Antoinette “let them eat brioche” - or a very thinly veiled attempt by you to let us know how rich you are.
Robert-nszl1 said:
st4 said:
I’m a brilliant brilliant man - but I can’t turn a sea of hire car pilot silver and white £300/month 320d/c220d/a160d/golf tdi into lots of 911s.
This thread is very Marie Antoinette “let them eat brioche” - or a very thinly veiled attempt by you to let us know how rich you are.
Most new 911s will be financed in some way; just because you have money doesn't mean you necessarily want it tied in a car, especially when interest rates are low. Porsches don't depreciate as badly as many cars, so that often means the lease terms aren't too onerous. I think it's fair to say most will be above average income that drive them, but I wouldn't say you need to be rich. Often they are only cars / daily drives as they are way more practical than other sports cars. This thread is very Marie Antoinette “let them eat brioche” - or a very thinly veiled attempt by you to let us know how rich you are.
Alas some Corbyn supporting beige-car fanboys deem that everyone that drives a car worth more than a ushanka and earning more than the state-set level must be rich and thus demonised, and any desire or aspiration they might have is automatically wrong and immoral.
Raygun said:
Robert-nszl1 said:
Often they are only cars / daily drives as they are way more practical than other sports cars.
As good as car as they are ^ this ^ makes them less special than say an Italian sports car.The Italian offerings ARE for the rich, partly due to price point, but also because they ARE second (or third/fourth) cars. All but one of the Porsche owners I know the Porsche is their only, or main car. They have committed to funding a £100k car. The Ferrari/Lambo/etc owners I know have closer to a million pounds of cars on their drive. That is the preserve of the rich.
Raygun said:
As good as car as they are ^ this ^ makes them less special than say an Italian sports car.
911s are a victim of their own success. I think they often deemed less special because there are just so many of them around. I've been lucky enough to own many, and still own a 997 4S. It's a great car, perhaps not as 'special' as the V8 Ferraris in standard form, but then again they are a lot less expensive to buy. In GT form? We'll that's a long running argument! Ares said:
Or is obsessed/hung-up by cars he assumes are financed, and therefore deems they are lesser mortals/drivers and deserving of derision?
Jesus wept. Either you’re a very delicate wall flower, very good at bending spoons but not much else or on a wind up mission. I think it has to be the last. This thread is actually pitiful. You don’t see many 911s on the road but plenty of 3 series. This is because 911s are very expensive, only rich people can really afford them new, and there’s not nearly as many rich people in the world.
st4 said:
Jesus wept. Either you’re a very delicate wall flower, very good at bending spoons but not much else or on a wind up mission. I think it has to be the last.
This thread is actually pitiful. You don’t see many 911s on the road but plenty of 3 series. This is because 911s are very expensive, only rich people can really afford them new, and there’s not nearly as many rich people in the world.
There's actually more, and the 911 is cheaper than it's been for a while. This thread is actually pitiful. You don’t see many 911s on the road but plenty of 3 series. This is because 911s are very expensive, only rich people can really afford them new, and there’s not nearly as many rich people in the world.
yonex said:
There's actually more, and the 911 is cheaper than it's been for a while.
You don’t see them that often. You’ll see a lot more Boxsters and Caymans. And almost without fail these are second cars.Miles off topic I’m going to look at MX5s and the costs of leasing one just for the summer.
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