RE: Redux restomods the E30 M3
Discussion
blade7 said:
e46m3Mark said:
As for £10k on an E46 m3? I'd do the same again and just tread the same well established path of suspension, brakes and an airbox. I'd also lose some weight with race seats, harness and rear seat delete. The great thing about M3's (to me anyway) is that they only need pretty easy to do mods because the base cars are so good.
Tales of E30 owners being all over later M3's under braking and through corners, make me wonder if it's just down to brakes, suspension and weight.
HM-2 said:
I suspect tyres might often also play into it. Most of the E30 M3s I've seen tend to be weekend cars that will run super-sticky rubber as they only ever really see fair-weather usage when "pressing on", whereas later M3s tend to be daily drivers.
Back in the BTCC days the M3 drivers complained the Cosworths cleared off on the straights, and held them up in the corners. While the Ford guys said they couldn't use their power in the corners with the tyres they had. HM-2 said:
blade7 said:
e46m3Mark said:
As for £10k on an E46 m3? I'd do the same again and just tread the same well established path of suspension, brakes and an airbox. I'd also lose some weight with race seats, harness and rear seat delete. The great thing about M3's (to me anyway) is that they only need pretty easy to do mods because the base cars are so good.
Tales of E30 owners being all over later M3's under braking and through corners, make me wonder if it's just down to brakes, suspension and weight.Thank goodness they didn't follow these bloody awful plans...
e46m3Mark said:
HM-2 said:
blade7 said:
e46m3Mark said:
As for £10k on an E46 m3? I'd do the same again and just tread the same well established path of suspension, brakes and an airbox. I'd also lose some weight with race seats, harness and rear seat delete. The great thing about M3's (to me anyway) is that they only need pretty easy to do mods because the base cars are so good.
Tales of E30 owners being all over later M3's under braking and through corners, make me wonder if it's just down to brakes, suspension and weight.
3 and a half seconds a lap quicker round Goodwood in the 286bhp E36 than the 238bhp E30
E36 was on 235/40 x17s all round
E30 was on 225/45x16s all round
iSore said:
As someone once said, 'there's better, and there's preferable'.
E36 M3's were epically fast and very capable when new, but I could never get very excited about them. I haven't driven one for 20 years so maybe they're all exciting now they're old...?
I very nearly bought one years ago. If there was a better standard E36 Evo in the country I'd like to have seen it. Fairly sure the VANOS was spot on, but it just didn't seem to work unless it was being driven really hard. After years of 80's turbo cars it didn't get me excited.E36 M3's were epically fast and very capable when new, but I could never get very excited about them. I haven't driven one for 20 years so maybe they're all exciting now they're old...?
Gets the Memories flooding back
I always remember my first 3 drives of an M3
First was a standard car, nice, solid if a little slow to respond and a bit heavy
Second was a Cecotto, very similar just a lot more Leather
Then the Sport Evo, best £15k i ever spent
3 years old i think, maybe 4 oh the fun we had
not my photo, but my old car
When was it, mid 90's returning from LeMans, Bentley Boys route, what a drive
I always remember my first 3 drives of an M3
First was a standard car, nice, solid if a little slow to respond and a bit heavy
Second was a Cecotto, very similar just a lot more Leather
Then the Sport Evo, best £15k i ever spent
3 years old i think, maybe 4 oh the fun we had
not my photo, but my old car
When was it, mid 90's returning from LeMans, Bentley Boys route, what a drive
Edited by Fatbloke on Monday 18th March 15:42
Edited by Fatbloke on Tuesday 19th March 09:42
s m said:
Performance Car ( forerunner to EVO mag ....not the 2000s short lived version ) editor of the time
LJKS wrote his monthly CAR column about it, and wasn't very kind. A friend bought one and I saw what he was talking about; fast and grippy but a sledgehammer of a thing. I had a B9 3.5 at the time and thought that was much better, oddly. I think I fell into the trap of comparing it with an M3 when, with a tuned U Boat engine up front, it just wasn't. Hartge stuff had much nicer engineering due to lower volumes and not being a 'manufacturer' although the B10 BiTurbo was/is a tremendous thing.
iSore said:
s m said:
Performance Car ( forerunner to EVO mag ....not the 2000s short lived version ) editor of the time
LJKS wrote his monthly CAR column about it, and wasn't very kind. A friend bought one and I saw what he was talking about; fast and grippy but a sledgehammer of a thing. I had a B9 3.5 at the time and thought that was much better, oddly. I think I fell into the trap of comparing it with an M3 when, with a tuned U Boat engine up front, it just wasn't. Hartge stuff had much nicer engineering due to lower volumes and not being a 'manufacturer' although the B10 BiTurbo was/is a tremendous thing.
As is the way with cars
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