RE: Tesla Model Y released

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Jimbo89

54 posts

83 months

Friday 15th March
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Ares said:
aarondbs said:
It’s not a looker is it? I’m working over in the US this week and drove from Fort Lauderdale to Orlando and back yesterday. Fortunately in a SIXT 7 seat Mercedes GLS450. At 18mpg (and I was pulled over and given a warning for travelling at 97mph) I did need to fill up which was a matter of minutes.

My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in a Tesla. My meeting was on a downtown industrial estate and the hotel I am staying at does not have a charge point. I liked the noise the engine made in the Mercedes and I liked its slightly shonky character but these Teslas do nothing for me, and yes I have driven one, a P something or other saloon. They look cheap, feel cheap and are not cheap. All in my opinion of course.

And yes before anyone says it i do a journey like this at least once a week. Last week was Chesterfield to Cardiff and back arriving home at 2am and back in the office for 7am so again a Tesla and an Taxi May have been required!
I was in the US in January. I hired a GMC Yukon XL. I carried me and my 6 passengers, plus their luggage from the airport and around for 3 weeks. My journeys were pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the Alfa I have at home.

Later that same month, I was invited on a corporate track day. We were given Caterham 270s. My driving experience was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the GMC Yukon XL.

In February I was in a very cold snow covered Canada for a 4 day business trip. My client drove Mercedes G550. My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the Caterham 270.

Also in February, I had to drive 200 miles carrying 8 bikes in bike boxes plus 2 passengers. I hired a LWB Mercedes Sprinter. My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the G550.

Last weekend, I had to visit my parents along with my wife, daughter, her friend and our dog. We took my Alfa. My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the Merc Sprinter.

Next month I am going to Majorca on a cycling training camp, with 2 of my bikes. I am travelling in a plane. I predict my journey will be pleasant, anxious free and could not be achieved in any of the cars above.


Thank fk for a wide choice of vehicles to suits each persons individual needs.
Amen clap

BenjiS

408 posts

30 months

Friday 15th March
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aarondbs said:
It’s not a looker is it? I’m working over in the US this week and drove from Fort Lauderdale to Orlando and back yesterday. Fortunately in a SIXT 7 seat Mercedes GLS450. At 18mpg (and I was pulled over and given a warning for travelling at 97mph) I did need to fill up which was a matter of minutes.

My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in a Tesla.
213 miles each way? Perfectly achievable in all Teslas.

https://www.tesla.com/trips#/?v=M3_2015_74&o=F...

Quick break around 100 miles for a coffee and a piss and 10 minute charge just to be on the safe side.

bodhi

4,541 posts

168 months

Friday 15th March
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Ares said:
I was in the US in January. I hired a GMC Yukon XL. I carried me and my 6 passengers, plus their luggage from the airport and around for 3 weeks. My journeys were pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the Alfa I have at home.

Later that same month, I was invited on a corporate track day. We were given Caterham 270s. My driving experience was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the GMC Yukon XL.

In February I was in a very cold snow covered Canada for a 4 day business trip. My client drove Mercedes G550. My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the Caterham 270.

Also in February, I had to drive 200 miles carrying 8 bikes in bike boxes plus 2 passengers. I hired a LWB Mercedes Sprinter. My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the G550.

Last weekend, I had to visit my parents along with my wife, daughter, her friend and our dog. We took my Alfa. My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the Merc Sprinter.

Next month I am going to Majorca on a cycling training camp, with 2 of my bikes. I am travelling in a plane. I predict my journey will be pleasant, anxious free and could not be achieved in any of the cars above.


Thank fk for a wide choice of vehicles to suits each persons individual needs.
Difference is GMC Yukon and Caterham owners tend to get less tetchy when you point out their cars wouldn't work for you smile





98elise

13,885 posts

100 months

Friday 15th March
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shalmaneser said:
aarondbs said:
It’s not a looker is it? I’m working over in the US this week and drove from Fort Lauderdale to Orlando and back yesterday. Fortunately in a SIXT 7 seat Mercedes GLS450. At 18mpg (and I was pulled over and given a warning for travelling at 97mph) I did need to fill up which was a matter of minutes.

My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in a Tesla. My meeting was on a downtown industrial estate and the hotel I am staying at does not have a charge point. I liked the noise the engine made in the Mercedes and I liked its slightly shonky character but these Teslas do nothing for me, and yes I have driven one, a P something or other saloon. They look cheap, feel cheap and are not cheap. All in my opinion of course.

And yes before anyone says it i do a journey like this at least once a week. Last week was Chesterfield to Cardiff and back arriving home at 2am and back in the office for 7am so again a Tesla and an Taxi May have been required!
Thanks for sharing your valuable insight. Who would have guessed a journey over 300 miles without the opportunity to recharge would not be ideal for a Tesla!? The scales have truly fallen from my eyes.

Peronally I think it's quite good looking, and will no doubt be ideal for the school run which can currently only be attempted in a diesel 4x4 around my parts for some reason.
When I get some time I'll explain to everyone how my lotus is crap as a family car.

AlmostUseful

2,557 posts

139 months

Friday 15th March
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Couldn’t agree more, thanks for your valuable input.

On topic, I really like the new model y, I quite fancy a Tesla in the future so maybe once my e class is dead i’ll Take a look.
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Jon_S_Rally

223 posts

27 months

Friday 15th March
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Ares said:
Do SUVs have to have a minimum ground clearance and the ability to tow a caravan? Asking for a friend.
Is the basis of the SUV market now vehicles with off-road capability? Ask anyone what an SUV is and they will tell you that it's a big car designed to off-road. Of course most of them never do, but that's the identity of the segment, surely? A normal road car with a high roof line to allow it to carry more people and stuff (and possibly have seven seats) is an MPV. Tesla just don't want to admit that this and the Model X fall into that category, because Musk doesn't want to tell people he's made a minivan, because he knows no one would want one. Not that it matters if anyone wants one I suppose, because anyone who does will have to wait several years for him to get round to having it built I suspect.

IN51GHT said:
Yes it can tow a caravan.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaZhXXHRmGg

But why on earth would you want to tow a wobblebox?
The point was more, can it do what an SUV does, rather than a desire to tow an awful fibreglass box. Could it tow a horsebox across a rutted field without bottoming out? I very much doubt it, so it's not much of an SUV.

ukaskew

4,726 posts

160 months

Friday 15th March
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"Note the lack of instruments"

And then, er, no pictures of the interior.

AmosMoses

3,151 posts

104 months

Friday 15th March
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I quite like it...

Onehp

904 posts

222 months

Friday 15th March
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The day has come, I read a long post, I fully agreed and it was written by Ares! Didn't think that would happen wink

There are plenty charge points in most of the US by the way, and the Tesla GPS will help you plan your trip using them.

This Y 'SUV' looks much like a MPV, which is fine since I need space and batteries are in the floor anyway. If the performance version is anything like this model 3 performance, the future of family car driving isn't too bleak...
https://youtu.be/q-QVKMOD_hU

I'll just need to get used to doing virtually everything on a touchscreen. Well I waited years for a good phone with a physical keyboard that wasn't a blackberry, now typing on a touchscreen amd I'm surviving...

Mark-C

2,830 posts

144 months

Friday 15th March
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ukaskew said:
"Note the lack of instruments"

And then, er, no pictures of the interior.
Why do you need pictures - there'll be an ergonomic disaster of a flat screen stuck in the middle of the dash ...

ecs0set

2,061 posts

223 months

Friday 15th March
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Jimbo89 said:
Ares said:
aarondbs said:
It’s not a looker is it? I’m working over in the US this week and drove from Fort Lauderdale to Orlando and back yesterday. Fortunately in a SIXT 7 seat Mercedes GLS450. At 18mpg (and I was pulled over and given a warning for travelling at 97mph) I did need to fill up which was a matter of minutes.

My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in a Tesla. My meeting was on a downtown industrial estate and the hotel I am staying at does not have a charge point. I liked the noise the engine made in the Mercedes and I liked its slightly shonky character but these Teslas do nothing for me, and yes I have driven one, a P something or other saloon. They look cheap, feel cheap and are not cheap. All in my opinion of course.

And yes before anyone says it i do a journey like this at least once a week. Last week was Chesterfield to Cardiff and back arriving home at 2am and back in the office for 7am so again a Tesla and an Taxi May have been required!
I was in the US in January. I hired a GMC Yukon XL. I carried me and my 6 passengers, plus their luggage from the airport and around for 3 weeks. My journeys were pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the Alfa I have at home.

Later that same month, I was invited on a corporate track day. We were given Caterham 270s. My driving experience was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the GMC Yukon XL.

In February I was in a very cold snow covered Canada for a 4 day business trip. My client drove Mercedes G550. My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the Caterham 270.

Also in February, I had to drive 200 miles carrying 8 bikes in bike boxes plus 2 passengers. I hired a LWB Mercedes Sprinter. My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the G550.

Last weekend, I had to visit my parents along with my wife, daughter, her friend and our dog. We took my Alfa. My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in the Merc Sprinter.

Next month I am going to Majorca on a cycling training camp, with 2 of my bikes. I am travelling in a plane. I predict my journey will be pleasant, anxious free and could not be achieved in any of the cars above.


Thank fk for a wide choice of vehicles to suits each persons individual needs.
Amen clap
Have a +1 and a rofl

Big GT

550 posts

31 months

Friday 15th March
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aarondbs said:
It’s not a looker is it? I’m working over in the US this week and drove from Fort Lauderdale to Orlando and back yesterday. Fortunately in a SIXT 7 seat Mercedes GLS450. At 18mpg (and I was pulled over and given a warning for travelling at 97mph) I did need to fill up which was a matter of minutes.

My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in a Tesla. My meeting was on a downtown industrial estate and the hotel I am staying at does not have a charge point. I liked the noise the engine made in the Mercedes and I liked its slightly shonky character but these Teslas do nothing for me, and yes I have driven one, a P something or other saloon. They look cheap, feel cheap and are not cheap. All in my opinion of course.

And yes before anyone says it i do a journey like this at least once a week. Last week was Chesterfield to Cardiff and back arriving home at 2am and back in the office for 7am so again a Tesla and an Taxi May have been required!
Most people seem to be missing the point of this post.

Like any EV you cant just 'go for a drive' without planning you charging and this is the problem as its designed to be an allrounder.

I've no axe to grind with Tesla or EV's. I have a plug in myself and have been driving it all week in electric mode. Its fantastic.
But taking away the technical innovation, the Tesla is an middle of the road, white goods average kinda a car with limited ability and added anxiety but for a premium price. So an only car for most people.


RSchneider

74 posts

103 months

Friday 15th March
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Another scam & control vehicle. Battery cars should be outlawed.

Paddy78

136 posts

85 months

Friday 15th March
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Big GT said:
aarondbs said:
It’s not a looker is it? I’m working over in the US this week and drove from Fort Lauderdale to Orlando and back yesterday. Fortunately in a SIXT 7 seat Mercedes GLS450. At 18mpg (and I was pulled over and given a warning for travelling at 97mph) I did need to fill up which was a matter of minutes.

My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in a Tesla. My meeting was on a downtown industrial estate and the hotel I am staying at does not have a charge point. I liked the noise the engine made in the Mercedes and I liked its slightly shonky character but these Teslas do nothing for me, and yes I have driven one, a P something or other saloon. They look cheap, feel cheap and are not cheap. All in my opinion of course.

And yes before anyone says it i do a journey like this at least once a week. Last week was Chesterfield to Cardiff and back arriving home at 2am and back in the office for 7am so again a Tesla and an Taxi May have been required!
Most people seem to be missing the point of this post.

Like any EV you cant just 'go for a drive' without planning you charging and this is the problem as its designed to be an allrounder.

I've no axe to grind with Tesla or EV's. I have a plug in myself and have been driving it all week in electric mode. Its fantastic.
But taking away the technical innovation, the Tesla is an middle of the road, white goods average kinda a car with limited ability and added anxiety but for a premium price. So an only car for most people.
It is a fairly pointless post though. As others have pointed out, it's like saying that a Ford Mondeo is useless because I have 7 members of my family and would need to make 2 trips to ferry everyone around. 99% of journeys are under the maximum range of electric cars. They don't take long to charge if you have somewhere to do it and if you need to make long journeys all the time, then don't buy (Or hire) a sodding EV!

essayer

5,897 posts

133 months

Friday 15th March
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aarondbs said:
And yes before anyone says it i do a journey like this at least once a week. Last week was Chesterfield to Cardiff and back arriving home at 2am and back in the office for 7am so again a Tesla and an Taxi May have been required!
Sounds pretty dangerous to me, I wouldn't be boasting about it. Hopefully you won't be another Gary Hart


Big GT said:
Most people seem to be missing the point of this post.

Like any EV you cant just 'go for a drive' without planning you charging and this is the problem as its designed to be an allrounder.

I've no axe to grind with Tesla or EV's. I have a plug in myself and have been driving it all week in electric mode. Its fantastic.
But taking away the technical innovation, the Tesla is an middle of the road, white goods average kinda a car with limited ability and added anxiety but for a premium price. So an only car for most people.
"taking away the technical innovation" rofl






Edited by essayer on Friday 15th March 14:08

ntiz

543 posts

75 months

Friday 15th March
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Just so everyone knows I think currently there is one 250kw charger in the world.

Not sure when they are getting rolled out everywhere else but I would wager it’s some way off especially here in the UK. So those that like to stop often for leak better hope you take 45 mins to an hour. You will probably have to drive out of your way to take that piss as well.


BlackLabel

11,372 posts

62 months

Friday 15th March
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Will this be coming out before or after the roadster?

herebebeasties

385 posts

158 months

Friday 15th March
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corden said:
Apparently the 2 rear seats are optional and, despite appearing to be very limited indeed, are (in my opinion) a nice addition that the similarly sized X3/GLC/XC60 don’t offer at all.
Ever thought that there might be a reason for that? Folded seats eat valuable boot space and are pretty unusable in a car this size - too awkward for access for baby/child seats, not big enough for real children. People who buy such vehicles tend to need boot space for kiddy clobber, and if they don't then they don't need seven seats, do they? I really can't see the point and clearly nor can any other manufacturer.

kambites

56,117 posts

160 months

Friday 15th March
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herebebeasties said:
I really can't see the point and clearly nor can any other manufacturer.
Maybe not in the SUV market, but there's plenty of small MPVs with the option of seven seats and no appreciable boot when the back row are in place.

skint_driver

106 posts

191 months

Friday 15th March
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Genuinely conflicted between this and the Polestar 2.
The PS2 is better looking but this thing will drive itself.

Think the self driving will win.