Birmingham Crash
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st4 said:
Sa Calobra said:
Game?
War in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria?
It's not a game. Racism starts with bending facts to fit a narrative, looking at the smaller picture and getting others to believe the same.
Then there's taking a reported local story and sharing it nationally with other selected stories.
Don't believe the racism. Yes we have issues in our society but it's deeper than race or religion. It's class and poverty with generations brought up with no compass or work ethic.
And yet these issues really have appeared since WWII - so when we opened our country up to mass scale immigration and it’s unprecedented and exponential population growth in the last 70 or so years.War in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria?
It's not a game. Racism starts with bending facts to fit a narrative, looking at the smaller picture and getting others to believe the same.
Then there's taking a reported local story and sharing it nationally with other selected stories.
Don't believe the racism. Yes we have issues in our society but it's deeper than race or religion. It's class and poverty with generations brought up with no compass or work ethic.
The war was a decision (wrong on) by politicians at the time. Not a crime and my thoughts on it if we are at war with a people you don’t have these people and their allies/sympathisers freely living in your country.
Oh well.
And I have a better car than you.
SidewaysSi said:
I am an immigrant. I live in the UK. You must hate me. And my family. And my mates. And my dog. And my hair.
Oh well
Typical knee jerk virtue signalling response. Oh well
It's not personal and you shouldn't take the fact that our country has gone downhill since the flood gates opened - because it has. We might be richer, but we are definitely less safe. You might care about the economy (most people who don't see themselves as British really do hence they'll do almost anything to get here and stay) and less about the country as you aren't actually from here and don't have the same emotional investment in it. Indeed you said in another thread you like London but not the UK. Well, we Brits care about Britain and our country and that goes beyond our back pockets which all you business school types go on about with regard to Brexit etc.
SidewaysSi said:
And I have a better car than you.
I couldn't care less what you drive. I am happy with what I drive and confident I have the best car I could buy for my budget. Edited by st4 on Saturday 16th March 14:06
"opened up to mass immigration"
Oh shut up. People have moved to and from the UK for centuries.
Many many many Lithuanian, Polish, Ukrainian etc etc have been here for many decades.
Many for Anglo-Saxon names to fit in.
They are white so you don't notice.
Those that are not able to visually blend in what have they done wrong?
Are they not as racially pure as you?
Just because they wear different clothes and dont fall your religion (it's the same God by the way. Even Jesus is mentioned numerous times in the Koran).
My family aren't originally from the UK yet I am 'white'. My wife's family came 40years ago.
Are we less welcome?
As for ghettos, you get them everywhere. There's one near me where people hate the Police. Its predominantly white.
Oh shut up. People have moved to and from the UK for centuries.
Many many many Lithuanian, Polish, Ukrainian etc etc have been here for many decades.
Many for Anglo-Saxon names to fit in.
They are white so you don't notice.
Those that are not able to visually blend in what have they done wrong?
Are they not as racially pure as you?
Just because they wear different clothes and dont fall your religion (it's the same God by the way. Even Jesus is mentioned numerous times in the Koran).
My family aren't originally from the UK yet I am 'white'. My wife's family came 40years ago.
Are we less welcome?
As for ghettos, you get them everywhere. There's one near me where people hate the Police. Its predominantly white.
J4CKO said:
blade7 said:
J4CKO said:
These guys need some education and to see the potential consequences, they also need to be kept in check better by the Police,
Are you really this naive?st4 said:
Scant regard for the law yes - life not sure - it looks an unintended consequence of a bit of tomfoolery.
If the Audi just missed the bmw this thread wouldn’t exist.
If you're stupid, ignorant or brazen enough to drive in a manner and in inappropriate places that could result in the death of another person, more so children then frankly what respect and thought do you have? If the Audi just missed the bmw this thread wouldn’t exist.
As for "if it just missed" It didn't miss did it? Just like a plane didn't miss the twin towers and a bloke didn't just miss 49 people in Christchurch... they didn't miss and as a result people died and lives have been changed forever.
Edited by Davie on Saturday 16th March 14:13
Sa Calobra said:
"opened up to mass immigration"
Oh shut up. People have moved to and from the UK for centuries.
M.
Not really. And please be civil. Oh shut up. People have moved to and from the UK for centuries.
M.
Since 1066 we haven't had a major invasion and being an Island have suffered far less migration into our country than mainland European ones.
Arguably, upto the end of WW2 we were racially one of the most homogeneous countries in the world. Japan probably being the most so.
My thoughts, be smart, be like Japan.
Davie said:
If you're stupid, ignorant or brazen enough to drive in a manner and in inappropriate places that could result in the death of another person, more so children then frankly what respect and thought do you have?
As for "if it just missed" then I'm not sure if you fall into that category with an attitude like that. It didn't miss did it? Just like a plane didn't miss the twin towers and a bloke didn't just miss 49 people in Christchurch... but the things is, they didn't miss and as a result people died and lives have been changed forever.
Except the twin towers and Christchurch well deliberate thought out massacres. This wasn't and was totally unintentional - hence these crimes are miles and miles apart. As for "if it just missed" then I'm not sure if you fall into that category with an attitude like that. It didn't miss did it? Just like a plane didn't miss the twin towers and a bloke didn't just miss 49 people in Christchurch... but the things is, they didn't miss and as a result people died and lives have been changed forever.
st4 said:
Not really. And please be civil.
Since 1066 we haven't had a major invasion and being an Island have suffered far less migration into our country than mainland European ones.
Arguably, upto the end of WW2 we were racially one of the most homogeneous countries in the world. Japan probably being the most so.
My thoughts, be smart, be like Japan.
An island 20 odd miles from the mainland, really?Since 1066 we haven't had a major invasion and being an Island have suffered far less migration into our country than mainland European ones.
Arguably, upto the end of WW2 we were racially one of the most homogeneous countries in the world. Japan probably being the most so.
My thoughts, be smart, be like Japan.
blade7 said:
J4CKO said:
blade7 said:
J4CKO said:
These guys need some education and to see the potential consequences, they also need to be kept in check better by the Police,
Are you really this naive?st4 said:
SidewaysSi said:
I am an immigrant. I live in the UK. You must hate me. And my family. And my mates. And my dog. And my hair.
Oh well
Typical knee jerk virtue signalling response. Oh well
It's not personal and you shouldn't take the fact that our country has gone downhill since the flood gates opened - because it has. We might be richer, but we are definitely less safe. You might care about the economy (most people who don't see themselves as British really do hence they'll do almost anything to get here and stay) and less about the country as you aren't actually from here and don't have the same emotional investment in it. Indeed you said in another thread you like London but not the UK. Well, we Brits care about Britain and our country and that goes beyond our back pockets which all you business school types go on about with regard to Brexit etc.
SidewaysSi said:
And I have a better car than you.
I couldn't care less what you drive. I am happy with what I drive and confident I have the best car I could buy for my budget. Edited by st4 on Saturday 16th March 14:06
t on every thread?This "pure country" that you want is a pipe dream I'm afraid - too many immigrants here already..
I love this country hence I am still here, though do work in other countries too.
Anyway, I am going to go for a bloody good drive this afternoon. I suggest you grab your keys to your GS and do the same. It may help you relax a little...
st4 said:
Typical knee jerk virtue signalling response.
It's not personal and you shouldn't take the fact that our country has gone downhill since the flood gates opened - because it has. We might be richer, but we are definitely less safe. You might care about the economy (most people who don't see themselves as British really do hence they'll do almost anything to get here and stay) and less about the country as you aren't actually from here and don't have the same emotional investment in it. Indeed you said in another thread you like London but not the UK. Well, we Brits care about Britain and our country and that goes beyond our back pockets which all you business school types go on about with regard to Brexit etc.
Is the above lifted in its entirety from the Alan Partridge autobiography? It's not personal and you shouldn't take the fact that our country has gone downhill since the flood gates opened - because it has. We might be richer, but we are definitely less safe. You might care about the economy (most people who don't see themselves as British really do hence they'll do almost anything to get here and stay) and less about the country as you aren't actually from here and don't have the same emotional investment in it. Indeed you said in another thread you like London but not the UK. Well, we Brits care about Britain and our country and that goes beyond our back pockets which all you business school types go on about with regard to Brexit etc.
blade7 said:
J4CKO said:
I was thinking more about getting to them before its gone wrong, its a difficult area as they arent keen on the Police and being stopped even if its for their own good but would agree prison can be a bit too cushy and not a huge deterrent.
Then you are tarring everyone with the same brush, when it's a minority causing the majority of the problems.The resources are the problem bit.
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