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[CharlesdeGaulle]

SpeckledJim said:

ETA the way the seat structure is showing through the drivers seat leather is very disappointing indeed.

Never seen that before on one of these. 30 stone PO?

I think that's a decorative feature on the bolster isn't it?

[anonymous-user]

1Rb said:

MB introduced this along with the facelift in c 2010:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mercedes-benz...

Awesome engine - It is like a diet version of the 5.5TT AMG. Sounds awesome, goes well and doesn't seem to break much.

[Philv8s]

Have we had this one yet? In thread budget without a haggle! Having run an LCI version for a year with similar miles with no real issues I think the V12 is a safer and better option than the V8 versions (although my current car uses a similar V8)!
They are great wafty mobile sofas and even SWMBO loved my old one.

https://www.earlsdonmotorcompanyltd.co.uk/used-car...

[Macron]

^ Yes Phil, it started a debate about the council or otherwise-ness of sunroofs. Odd. Prinny, who has one, suggested it might be OK despite the issues listed. Personally I think it looks great and learnt the alloys are the Individual ones.


We have a threadist with a Superb 3.6 don't we?

£5777 but hey, the estate at 6 bags has been around for ages so I'm sure there's wriggle room.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...

Edited by Macron on Friday 18th October 20:26

Edited by Macron on Friday 18th October 20:27

[E65Ross]

Sterillium said:

Whilst we are sharing our communal knowledge about greyish interiors, please can I ask the hive mind two Jaguar related questions?

Firstly, what colour interior trim is this? (I think it looks a bit dull, if it's accurately represented)

And what is the type and finish of these alloys? (I think they look superb, as if they are slightly tinted)

If the quality of the interior trim is anything like that in my dad's F Type R....it won't feel very nice. In his, the carbon fibre "effect" just feels like naff, tacky plastic, really nasty and not a patch on the quality of the M6 it replaced.

Still, the engine makes up for it.

[SpeckledJim]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

SpeckledJim said:

ETA the way the seat structure is showing through the drivers seat leather is very disappointing indeed.

Never seen that before on one of these. 30 stone PO?

I think that's a decorative feature on the bolster isn't it?

Golly gosh, you’re right. Just had a little google and found a car with it clearly on both seats.

Was that some kind of rare option?

[E65Ross]

WorldBoss said:

1Rb said:

MB introduced this along with the facelift in c 2010:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mercedes-benz...

Awesome engine - It is like a diet version of the 5.5TT AMG. Sounds awesome, goes well and doesn't seem to break much.

Does the "normal" 5.5 litre "500" engine go wrong much? The one the 4.7 replaced? I'm very torn between saving for an LS460, S500 or CL500.....or an LS430 if I decide to get something a bit older and cheaper, but I think I'd rather something a bit more modern as well as bargey.....and I do like the W221 S class and love the C216 CL....but I suspect I'd need £3k/year budget for servicing, give or take (probably give )

[Summit_Detailing]

Sterillium said:

Whilst we are sharing our communal knowledge about greyish interiors, please can I ask the hive mind two Jaguar related questions?

Firstly, what colour interior trim is this? (I think it looks a bit dull, if it's accurately represented)

And what is the type and finish of these alloys? (I think they look superb, as if they are slightly tinted)

Looks like Slate dash, steering wheel and upper doorcards with Ivory seats - the latter being incredibly dirty!

20" Senta alloy wheels, look to have been refurbed in shadow chrome which is a dark barrel with gunmetal faces, I think they work well on this too.

Cheers,

Chris

[anonymous-user]

E65Ross said:

Does the "normal" 5.5 litre "500" engine go wrong much? The one the 4.7 replaced? I'm very torn between saving for an LS460, S500 or CL500.....or an LS430 if I decide to get something a bit older and cheaper, but I think I'd rather something a bit more modern as well as bargey.....and I do like the W221 S class and love the C216 CL....but I suspect I'd need £3k/year budget for servicing, give or take (probably give )

I'd be on the look out for oil leaks and timing chain rattles on that engine. Not sure how common failures they are (Merc used the engine for all of 5 mins and most stuff it is in is too old for me to see regularly), but the info is out there. Seems like the later the car the better.

Personally, I'd go CL500. I mean, look at the things.

I don't think running costs are that bad. There is the potential for some expensive failures, but in the real world I think you'd have to be pretty unlucky to have them happen consistently.

[anonymous-user]

SpeckledJim said:

ETA the way the seat structure is showing through the drivers seat leather is very disappointing indeed.

Never seen that before on one of these. 30 stone PO?

Well you've embarrassed yourself there, as it's an indent of the bolster from the factory. Not the seat structure coming through.

[E65Ross]

WorldBoss said:

I'd be on the look out for oil leaks and timing chain rattles on that engine. Not sure how common failures they are (Merc used the engine for all of 5 mins and most stuff it is in is too old for me to see regularly), but the info is out there. Seems like the later the car the better.

Personally, I'd go CL500. I mean, look at the things.

I don't think running costs are that bad. There is the potential for some expensive failures, but in the real world I think you'd have to be pretty unlucky to have them happen consistently.

If there's someone to have consistent bad luck with expensive failures.... It'd be me

Trouble is, the later 4.7 cars are really rather pricey still. Haven't really looked but if I recall they're all well over 2x thread max.

[SpeckledJim]

5490 said:

SpeckledJim said:

ETA the way the seat structure is showing through the drivers seat leather is very disappointing indeed.

Never seen that before on one of these. 30 stone PO?

Well you've embarrassed yourself there, as it's an indent of the bolster from the factory. Not the seat structure coming through.

I know, it’s awful.

And I can’t think of a new username so it’s going to follow me.

[ian316]

SpeckledJim said:

I know, it’s awful.

And I can’t think of a new username so it’s going to follow me.

Just blame alcohol a small screen on a phone, and lack of glasses

[paulguitar]

SpeckledJim said:

5490 said:

SpeckledJim said:

ETA the way the seat structure is showing through the drivers seat leather is very disappointing indeed.

Never seen that before on one of these. 30 stone PO?

Well you've embarrassed yourself there, as it's an indent of the bolster from the factory. Not the seat structure coming through.

I know, it’s awful.

And I can’t think of a new username so it’s going to follow me.

I think, SJ, for a gaff of this magnitude, you might want to be thinking about starting again with a new identity, both here on PH and in the ‘real’ world.

[r129sl]

Is this world not real?

[CharlesdeGaulle]

paulguitar said:

SpeckledJim said:

5490 said:

SpeckledJim said:

ETA the way the seat structure is showing through the drivers seat leather is very disappointing indeed.

Never seen that before on one of these. 30 stone PO?

Well you've embarrassed yourself there, as it's an indent of the bolster from the factory. Not the seat structure coming through.

I know, it’s awful.

And I can’t think of a new username so it’s going to follow me.

I think, SJ, for a gaff of this magnitude, you might want to be thinking about starting again with a new identity, both here on PH and in the ‘real’ world.

It is hard to see a way out of this one with any dignity intact. Even by SJ's standards, this is a toughie. I see a parallel with Ambiwlans.

[E65Ross]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

paulguitar said:

SpeckledJim said:

5490 said:

SpeckledJim said:

ETA the way the seat structure is showing through the drivers seat leather is very disappointing indeed.

Never seen that before on one of these. 30 stone PO?

Well you've embarrassed yourself there, as it's an indent of the bolster from the factory. Not the seat structure coming through.

I know, it’s awful.

And I can’t think of a new username so it’s going to follow me.

I think, SJ, for a gaff of this magnitude, you might want to be thinking about starting again with a new identity, both here on PH and in the ‘real’ world.

It is hard to see a way out of this one with any dignity intact. Even by SJ's standards, this is a toughie. I see a parallel with Ambiwlans.

[W00DY]

I'll stick up for SJ and say that as a piece of design that's properly awful.

[Etypephil]

W00DY said:

I'll stick up for SJ and say that as a piece of design that's properly awful.

As an arch Jagist, sadly I concur.

[Rubins4]

sparks_190e said:

Northbrook said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Most of the thread cars will do 150 mph

My thread car will do that. Probably.

I'm allowed to put a k before the m first, though, right?

Mine absolutely won't do that

...stares at floor whilst shuffling feet and raising hand...