RE: Diesel duo confirmed for Audi S5
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I cannot see this helping sales one bit.
Diesel engines are more expensive to produce than their petrol counterparts and this is then reflected in the £56k base price which is a massive hike from the last mode and not inline with wage growth or even inflation.
This wont be for many company car users either.
The continued uncertainty around how the UK and EU governments will treat diesel and the associated harmful emissions also puts me off as does having to use ad-blue to keep the emissions down.
I am sure it drives pretty well but I want the excitement and sound of a higher revving petrol engine.
This is a real shame. I thought that with the mk2 SQ5 being petrol in Europe, Audi had turned a corner, but it seems not.
From a long standing Audi S car customer this is genuinely making me look at other options.
Diesel engines are more expensive to produce than their petrol counterparts and this is then reflected in the £56k base price which is a massive hike from the last mode and not inline with wage growth or even inflation.
This wont be for many company car users either.
The continued uncertainty around how the UK and EU governments will treat diesel and the associated harmful emissions also puts me off as does having to use ad-blue to keep the emissions down.
I am sure it drives pretty well but I want the excitement and sound of a higher revving petrol engine.
This is a real shame. I thought that with the mk2 SQ5 being petrol in Europe, Audi had turned a corner, but it seems not.
From a long standing Audi S car customer this is genuinely making me look at other options.
I beg to differ. I regard myself as a petrolhead and I've had two S4s. Much underrated imo. Agree they are not a 'drivers' car, but candidly nor is my RS4. There, I said it. A chap called Chris Harris had a S4 too.......
I've been fortunate to run S4s alongside more driver focussed cars. Audi has had the market sewn up with fast awd estates but I would not touch a diesel. Petrol hybrid definitely the way to go. Residual values on diesels have taken a battering and it's only going to get worse - look at used Macan prices as an example
Very short-sighted move by Audi and a cynical way to get CO2 levels down
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Totally agree. One could argue that Audi have actually placed diesels in the 'S' cars so that sell even less so they can drop them completely. I think Audi do not understand who drives the cars they produce. The 'S' models are driven by people would are unlikely to by a diesel and any something a bit different without the full beans.
While the 'S' cars aren't sports cars or drivers cars as such, they are a good compromise. I own a late B8.5 S5 Cabriolet - more preferable to the B9 IMO, whose Mondeo looks lacks the class of the original design - is a good 'GT' car. I went from a Porsche Cayman, which was a brilliant car and very much a drivers car, but I wanted something less taxing as a daily drive.
Staying with Audi now is going to be tricky. No way will I trade my current S5 in for a diesel, however good it maybe. It will be back to Porsche unless Audi can cater for people that aren't controlled by MPG figures.
This for me strikes me as a bizarre move and clearly something more to do with their financials, as they now doubt invested lots in R&D for diesel engines and not quite yet ready to let it go, therefore sticking it into a bunch of models..
Meanwhile, no one in the UK has been able to order anything from the S or RS range for what seems over 6 months now.. So while they have lost customers in the medium coupe/Sport-back segment to competitors, this latest revelation is another smack in the face...
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Meanwhile, no one in the UK has been able to order anything from the S or RS range for what seems over 6 months now.. So while they have lost customers in the medium coupe/Sport-back segment to competitors, this latest revelation is another smack in the face...
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I’ve had the pleasure of many S4s on our company scheme over the years. Chosen precisely because of the sweet petrol V6, whether super or turbo charged.
It’s the perfect all round car for me. Not the ultimate in anything, but staggeringly competent at everything. Or at least it was.
Odd decision, maybe as someone posted earlier driven by the lack of WLTP compliant alternatives.
It’s the perfect all round car for me. Not the ultimate in anything, but staggeringly competent at everything. Or at least it was.
Odd decision, maybe as someone posted earlier driven by the lack of WLTP compliant alternatives.
Its perhaps odd that Audi aren't offering a petrol S5 AND a diesel one, but I can sort of understand why they are doing it. They need to get their average C02 rating across their range down and the diesel will help that.
Also, I see most S5s on the motorway where it seems they are a favourite of business users and on the motorway the diesel version will be just as fast as the petrol one (possibly faster in typical 50-80 roll on acceleration situations) whilst using less fuel, so win win I'd have thought for typical business drivers of these models...
Also, I see most S5s on the motorway where it seems they are a favourite of business users and on the motorway the diesel version will be just as fast as the petrol one (possibly faster in typical 50-80 roll on acceleration situations) whilst using less fuel, so win win I'd have thought for typical business drivers of these models...
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