RE: The Brave Pill: Audi A8 4.2 TDI
Discussion
alec.e said:
And? I am saying my much faster XJ is not really that much worse on fuel- why bother having diesel?
Agreed. You buy a 2.0 diesel because running costs are more important to you than luxury and performance. But when I’ve purchased luxury and / or performance cars, diesel wouldn’t get a look in.
Just my opinion though. Based on all the derv S Class / 7 series I see every day, most don’t think that.
I had two of these, one long wheelbase and one standard and the standard is the one to go for. Parking the LWB was a nightmare, it would take the entire space upon and hang out of it. Heavily tinted rear windows in the LWB made it really dark in the cabin. One of mine cost over £5k in repair bills in nine months, nothing is cheap on them. Wheels crack due to the weight so check them. The 0-60 was always a little suspect, neither of mine would take a 535d off the lights which was on paper a little slower. Avoid LWB with standard bulbs, they're a nightmare to change, they should be xenon on a car at that price point. They are not a driver's car, they are very fast and very comfortable but the weight in the corners really notices and tyres will wear out fast.
I replaced it with a 530d E60 that I was happier with, a bit smaller, more nimble and felt just as quick.
I replaced it with a 530d E60 that I was happier with, a bit smaller, more nimble and felt just as quick.
Plate spinner said:
alec.e said:
And? I am saying my much faster XJ is not really that much worse on fuel- why bother having diesel?
Agreed. You buy a 2.0 diesel because running costs are more important to you than luxury and performance. But when I’ve purchased luxury and / or performance cars, diesel wouldn’t get a look in.
Just my opinion though. Based on all the derv S Class / 7 series I see every day, most don’t think that.
Shiv_P said:
Plate spinner said:
alec.e said:
And? I am saying my much faster XJ is not really that much worse on fuel- why bother having diesel?
Agreed. You buy a 2.0 diesel because running costs are more important to you than luxury and performance. But when I’ve purchased luxury and / or performance cars, diesel wouldn’t get a look in.
Just my opinion though. Based on all the derv S Class / 7 series I see every day, most don’t think that.
h to park in Morrisons and the train stationbloomen said:
A Mk4 Ford Mondeo is only 5 inches shorter and a 3/4 inch narrower and yet the bulk is rarely mentioned. Is it more of a turning circle thing?
No, it tends to be more of an “I’ve never owned one but still have an opinion”, thing 😂I haven’t had a problem parking it anywhere, it has camera and pdc all round plus a decent turning circle... people assume so much with very little exerpience... aside from using it as my commuting car when I was doing 400 miles a week or more, it has also been a fabulous family holiday car with us driving to Spain in supreme comfort, kids love the comfort in the back and the boot is huge so all luggage including belly boards fit in.
Turning circle? Bah.... anyone with half a sense of how to park and knows how a parking sensor works can park it easily.... 😁
alec.e said:
And? I am saying my much faster XJ is not really that much worse on fuel- why bother having diesel?
Because even on paper a super v8 is barely faster and still worse on fuel economy. Get in the real world and the Audi is quicker, more economical, better built, with more advanced technology.That’s why you bother......
I did a couple of jobs driving Zammocabs.
I had a 3.0tdi, a 4,2tdi and a 4.2fsi. From memory they were all in ‘L’ guise.
All of them were fantastic cars, but the 4.2tdi was the pick of the bunch.
The 4.2fsi was brilliant, but something just didn’t feel right with the combo of car and engine.
The 4.2tdi was just effortless. The torque was instant and it just cruised in near silence up and down the M40 from Oxfordshire to London.
That said, if it was my money, i would go for the 3.0tdi. Yes it’s a bit of a compromise, but it did everything *almost* as well as the 4.2. I’m not sure the premium and the extra risk of the V8 is worth it.
Those A8s were all brilliant cars though. Supremely comfortable, effortless progress could be made, and real road presence. If I had the need for a large luxury barge I wouldn’t hesitate. Sadly I don’t have the need.
I had a 3.0tdi, a 4,2tdi and a 4.2fsi. From memory they were all in ‘L’ guise.
All of them were fantastic cars, but the 4.2tdi was the pick of the bunch.
The 4.2fsi was brilliant, but something just didn’t feel right with the combo of car and engine.
The 4.2tdi was just effortless. The torque was instant and it just cruised in near silence up and down the M40 from Oxfordshire to London.
That said, if it was my money, i would go for the 3.0tdi. Yes it’s a bit of a compromise, but it did everything *almost* as well as the 4.2. I’m not sure the premium and the extra risk of the V8 is worth it.
Those A8s were all brilliant cars though. Supremely comfortable, effortless progress could be made, and real road presence. If I had the need for a large luxury barge I wouldn’t hesitate. Sadly I don’t have the need.
Sandpit Steve said:
Am about to take the brave pill on a V10 one of these, on the basis that it can’t possibly be less reliable than an E60 M5 of the same era - and ten cylinders is an itch that really needs scratching.
There wasn’t a v10 (unless you’re talking about the S8, they might have popped a v10 in those) but there was a W12... now that’s a rare cruiser 
I have heard some horror stories of the V10 RS6 repair bills but not much at all on the S8 so may be a good choice, I loved the V10 in my M6.
dubbs said:
bloomen said:
A Mk4 Ford Mondeo is only 5 inches shorter and a 3/4 inch narrower and yet the bulk is rarely mentioned. Is it more of a turning circle thing?
No, it tends to be more of an “I’ve never owned one but still have an opinion”, thing ??I haven’t had a problem parking it anywhere, it has camera and pdc all round plus a decent turning circle... people assume so much with very little exerpience... aside from using it as my commuting car when I was doing 400 miles a week or more, it has also been a fabulous family holiday car with us driving to Spain in supreme comfort, kids love the comfort in the back and the boot is huge so all luggage including belly boards fit in.
Turning circle? Bah.... anyone with half a sense of how to park and knows how a parking sensor works can park it easily.... ??
Augustus Windsock said:
Zammocab?
Somehow as I read on I expecteded the artricle to reference Zammo from Grange Hill, who became a custodian of modern chemistry before offing himself by using said substances
Which is what would probably happen to any future owner of this bolide bearing in mind its potential to bankrupt you, and make one turn to drink. But hopefully not the other stuff.....
Magnificent machine but I, along with others, would probably prefer a 3.0tdi with a suitable remap? But then, that wouldn’t require a ‘brave pill’, would it?
Thanks. New word learnt.Somehow as I read on I expecteded the artricle to reference Zammo from Grange Hill, who became a custodian of modern chemistry before offing himself by using said substances
Which is what would probably happen to any future owner of this bolide bearing in mind its potential to bankrupt you, and make one turn to drink. But hopefully not the other stuff.....
Magnificent machine but I, along with others, would probably prefer a 3.0tdi with a suitable remap? But then, that wouldn’t require a ‘brave pill’, would it?
dubbs said:
There wasn’t a v10 (unless you’re talking about the S8, they might have popped a v10 in those) but there was a W12... now that’s a rare cruiser
I have heard some horror stories of the V10 RS6 repair bills but not much at all on the S8 so may be a good choice, I loved the V10 in my M6.
Yes, it’s the S8 with the V10, hopefully will be enjoyable fast motoring and not a massive money pit! I have heard some horror stories of the V10 RS6 repair bills but not much at all on the S8 so may be a good choice, I loved the V10 in my M6.
dubbs said:
MadDog1962 said:
The ad reads well, and the story about the meticulous servicing sounds great.
However, when you to the "Check MoT History" website it seems that the number belongs to another car (a BMW M6 that was maybe scrapped in 2009).
I think I'd need to be on very special brave pills to take a risk on such a complicated 14 year lux-o-barge with almost 140,000 on the odometer when the seller is being so obviously devious.
Hi all! It’s my car up for sale and this seller certainly isn’t devious, he simply was mid reg transfer to my M2 (a sleuth may have seen it in the background on the photos) - might be worth getting some fact right before throwing around accusations MadDog..... the M6 was stolen in 2009 which a browse either on here or indeed a simple google would tell you as the thread details the whole thing in a very undevious way.”However, when you to the "Check MoT History" website it seems that the number belongs to another car (a BMW M6 that was maybe scrapped in 2009).
I think I'd need to be on very special brave pills to take a risk on such a complicated 14 year lux-o-barge with almost 140,000 on the odometer when the seller is being so obviously devious.
The unseasonably warm weather must have got to my brain as I can’t work out why a plate that shows its registered to a BMW that was written off in 2009 is on a car for sale now (and I presume it’s a recent image as you mention the M2 in the background)
Surely the plate should have been on the Audi at the time of this article?
Or am I one burger short of a bbq?
Can anyone supply some mayonnaise to sooth my heat-addled brain?
It’s a helluva motor.
Unfortunately it’s approaching another UK arbitrary mileage milestone - 150k. After the that UK market niche becomes more restrictive.
Apart from a hire company, I reckon that means that any prospective owner would be concerned about lumping 7 grand into a 13/14 year old motor on 140k.
A quick check rough comparison shows a couple of 2007/2008 Lwb S classes on 108k for under 7grand.
Having said that, if you’re gonna get one, get a big one.
Much want.
Unfortunately it’s approaching another UK arbitrary mileage milestone - 150k. After the that UK market niche becomes more restrictive.
Apart from a hire company, I reckon that means that any prospective owner would be concerned about lumping 7 grand into a 13/14 year old motor on 140k.
A quick check rough comparison shows a couple of 2007/2008 Lwb S classes on 108k for under 7grand.
Having said that, if you’re gonna get one, get a big one.
Much want.
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