Keep being flashed!

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The Wookie

13,970 posts

229 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Kept getting flashed with adaptive lights on the Panamera even though I thought it was quite sensitive, and only not responding in certain circumstances (e.g motorway where I can see a truck’s marker lights above the central barrier) where I’d dip it manually anyway

Turned it off, kept getting flashed anyway with dipped... on closer inspection it’s usually trigger happy giffers taking offence so I’ve turned it back on again

Flumpo

3,775 posts

74 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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On the motorway?

jjones

4,427 posts

194 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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The Wookie said:
Kept getting flashed with adaptive lights on the Panamera even though I thought it was quite sensitive, and only not responding in certain circumstances (e.g motorway where I can see a truck’s marker lights above the central barrier) where I’d dip it manually anyway

Turned it off, kept getting flashed anyway with dipped... on closer inspection it’s usually trigger happy giffers taking offence so I’ve turned it back on again

did you get flashed a lot in the previous car? People don't generally flash just to be cocks.

The Wookie

13,970 posts

229 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Nope but there’s no adjustment on the LED lights so not a huge amount I can do. I used to get flashed a lot in my old 997 even though the lights were adjusted properly. Some people are over sensitive

Richard-D

770 posts

65 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Alucidnation said:
Osinjak said:
Alucidnation said:
Seems the bell ends are in tonight.
I'm assuming you've missed the breathtaking irony in your post? Half term still isn't over it would seem.
Yay I’ve got a stalker!

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Stalker or not. He is right.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Richard-D said:
Alucidnation said:
Osinjak said:
Alucidnation said:
Seems the bell ends are in tonight.
I'm assuming you've missed the breathtaking irony in your post? Half term still isn't over it would seem.
Yay I’ve got a stalker!

How are you sweetheart? X
Stalker or not. He is right.
laugh

Bless.

sparks_E46

12,738 posts

214 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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I don’t have LED headlights as my car is far too old for that (2002), but I do have factory Xenons and I get flashed quite a bit out here in the sticks. I don’t think they are offensively bright or out of adjustment, and no comment was made at the last MOT. I would agree some new cars have ridiculously bright LED headlights.

ruhall

506 posts

147 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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duckers26 said:
For the last couple of days I have been using a car with active lights, so essentially they are always on main beam until they see an oncoming car and adjust the LED pattern so as not to dazzle them. The problem is that they do this at the last minute and so although they don’t dazzle the oncoming car, people think they will be and keep flashing their headlights. I have checked the manual and it refers to the lights being on at the maximum brightness permitted by law. Has anyone else had this?!
How do you know that they don't dazzle other drivers? Most people don't flash their mainbeam at oncoming traffic just for the sake of it.

I have, and have had, numerous cars (including several MBs) with these auto-dipping lights and after many years I still think they're a bit slow to react at times. A friend bought a new MB with LED lights two weeks ago and he's not convinced that they 'dip or cut-off' as well as he was led to believe they should and he's already been 'flashed', so maybe, just maybe, they aren't as good/clever as some might believe. He always used to over-ride the auto-dip function on his previous ILS-Xenons as he thought they were 'too slow'.

What next, speed limiters to stop you going 1mph over the speed limit? Thst's a solution to a question yet to be asked.

Shiv_P

2,753 posts

106 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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A8 matrix led lights are great. Don't recall being flashed yet

JonnyVTEC

3,008 posts

176 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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I’ve got a Velar with matrix LED and they are incredible, only time I’ve been flashed was last week coming back from Cornwall on the M5. Central reservation blocks the HGV lamps so the car doesn’t see them properly and meanwhile I continue to illuminate their cabin.

Daft thing is Range Rovers with the system tend to have it turned off as default, and just auto high beam assist which is naff.

Pica-Pica

13,851 posts

85 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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ruhall said:
What next, speed limiters to stop you going 1mph over the speed limit? Thst's a solution to a question yet to be asked.
Yup. Speed limiters exist, and you can set them for whatever you wish. They work extremely well, so, yeah +10%+1mph.

to3m

1,226 posts

171 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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sasha320 said:
fatboy b said:
sasha320 said:
The synaptic hyperspeed with which your average jobsworth type will be prematurely clutching at their high beam light stalk to flash you in advance of you getting close to them - to remind you and embarrass you that you need to dip your beam; will always be faster than your car’s auto dip computer algorithm that considers all the variables before automatically dipping your beam long before you actually risk dazzling an another driver.

Although I appreciate that these systems can get caught out in the odd circumstance, they are generally less fallible than human judgment so I let the car do the work.
So you get flashed a lot then rolleyes
Lol! Yes the cobra like speed with which the described oncoming drivers are able to clutch at their light stalk is always quicker than my car’s ability to dip the beam. Both of these events happen long before there is a realistic chance of anyone being dazzled.

What does make me giggle is that the premature ‘reminder’ will be a half a second ahead of my car dipping its beams automatically anyway so it looks like I have reacted to their prompt... everyone happy
Quite so!

I flash my lights if it looks like somebody's going to come round a corner and fill my eyes full of eye-boiling light. I'm prepared to take the risk that I'm flashing somebody who is (or whose car is) going to dip the headlights anyway, because the point is to ensure that when we meet one another coming round the corner, my night vision doesn't get temporarily zapped. How this goal is achieved, I don't much mind.

I am glad that you find this a source of mirth, and I hope all oncoming traffic is of the same opinion. My only goal here is maximized overall happiness - I get not to have my eyes fried, you get to feel superior. This is the archetypal win-win situation.

silverthorn2151

6,298 posts

180 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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I can't fault the super clever lighting on my DS7. It's auto main beam seems very accurate and seems to dip earlier than I probably would, and the adjustment of the beam pattern with speed makes huge sense to me and is very useful.

Oh, and the cruise control has an option to follow the speed limit on an particular road automatically. Not used it though other than trying it.

ruhall

506 posts

147 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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Pica-Pica said:
Yup. Speed limiters exist, and you can set them for whatever you wish. They work extremely well, so, yeah +10%+1mph.
It's obviously lost on some people. smile

juice

8,550 posts

283 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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I've got the Intelligent LED headlights on my GLC and I think they're brilliant. Not been flashed once yet.
The way it paints a black rectangle round the approaching car is like witchcraft !

sasha320

597 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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to3m said:
my night vision doesn't get temporarily zapped.

I get not to have my eyes fried
I think there is a low to no chance of zapping or frying someone’s eyes a few hundred yards away.

Part of the point of this thread is to make a distinction between high beams being on far away vs high beams being left on when cars are close and that the auto high beam assist dips the beam long before a) there’s a risk of an oncoming driver’s eyes genuinely being fried or zapped and b) not before some oncoming drivers have whipped themselves up in a frenzy of disbelief and outrage.

FiF

44,170 posts

252 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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Do they paint a black rectangle around pedestrians too? If not I have a night dog walking neighbour who, despite advice regarding the dangers of both of you not being able to see, will retaliate with the brightest torch I've ever seen. It puts my 2000 lumen device into glow worm territory.

Mabbs9

1,087 posts

219 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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Do these systems dip when they 'see' the oncoming lights? If so I think a problem with them is that the drivers eyeline is higher up, so sees the full beam before the oncoming spots your headlights. So the auto dip comes too late.

I've seen a lot more oncoming full beams on the motorway recently. The motorway doesn't seem a great place for them. The central reservation barrier spoils the function.

Sheepshanks

32,828 posts

120 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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Mabbs9 said:
Do these systems dip when they 'see' the oncoming lights? If so I think a problem with them is that the drivers eyeline is higher up, so sees the full beam before the oncoming spots your headlights. So the auto dip comes too late.

I've seen a lot more oncoming full beams on the motorway recently. The motorway doesn't seem a great place for them. The central reservation barrier spoils the function.
The sensor is at the top of the screen so at least as high as eye-line.

Not sure how much difference it makes but most (maybe all?) systems lift the dip beam at speed - 67MPH in Ateca (so likely all VAG cars).

Osinjak

5,453 posts

122 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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Alucidnation said:
Osinjak said:
Alucidnation said:
Seems the bell ends are in tonight.
I'm assuming you've missed the breathtaking irony in your post? Half term still isn't over it would seem.
Yay I’ve got a stalker!

How are you sweetheart? X
You wish. Just bored reading yet more juvenile drivel posted by you on a decent thread. We see your type everywhere, to the online eye you are at one with all your sisters on internet forums from PH to Mumsnet to ARRSE to YouTube. You are a standard product. A man could leave PH, fly three thousand miles away and join another motoring forum in that country and find you again, just as he would find his favourite comic strip in the local paper; and you would scribble the same words, the same sentiments and express the same views and preferences in moments of social discourse.