Glad I had my Range Rover on the beach today...

[PistonBroker]

Mrs PB likes sitting up high but we have no need for four-wheel-drive. Not so bad when we had a Tiguan perhaps, but I do feel a bit of an eejit now we have a Land Rover that only drives the front wheels.

None more so than when I pulled up at a do the other week and the lady on the gate asked me if I wouldn't mind parking on the field. I had no issues getting out, thankfully, but then, as evidenced perhaps by the pics in the OP, sometimes a diesel-engined front-drive car can be the better option - my 306 Dturbo at the top of a very wet Lobb Fields in Braunton many moons ago springs to mind.

Though the DPF woes our Disco Sport has suffered makes me want to quip 'perhaps he got stuck because it fell over into limp-home mode again?!'. ;-p

[popeyewhite]

Rawwr said:

lyonspride said:

The answer is quite simple, when you spend hard earned cash on buying a car outright, you don't go driving like a bellend on a beach.

Fact?

Common sense. Except on PH, obviously. Only on PH could the difference between purchasing something hugely expensive for cash, or borrowing to pay for it and not really owning it at all be so blurred in terms of ownership pride.

[Nickbrapp]

I could get out of that in a mapped 335D on winters

[popeyewhite]

PistonBroker said:

Though the DPF woes our Disco Sport has suffered makes me want to quip 'perhaps he got stuck because it fell over into limp-home mode again?!'. ;-p

I was parked in a council car park the other day and got out of my RR to overhear a woman (guarding two young children, one in a pram) disconsolately tell a man from the AA who was attending her broken down 17 plate Disco "... I'm really beginning to despise this car".

[Johnnytheboy]

Getragdogleg said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Bollycerb said:

Where were 4x4 Response when they were needed? :-0

Catching 40 20 winks.

16 winks surely ?

20 winks, because they sleep with one eye open.

[cayman-black]

god knows how that got stuck, it even has a sand setting.

[wolfracesonic]

Serious question, if somebody who knew what they were doing was behind the wheel, could it have been driven out using one of the specific modes for that kind of terrain, or are gravel beaches some kind of black hole for 4x4s? Oh, and PCP stuff as well.

[lyonspride]

wolfracesonic said:

Serious question, if somebody who knew what they were doing was behind the wheel, could it have been driven out using one of the specific modes for that kind of terrain, or are gravel beaches some kind of black hole for 4x4s? Oh, and PCP stuff as well.

No, that's puddles....

[popeyewhite]

A Range Rover is very heavy, and in standard trim has the wrong tyres. A good driver in a car with deflated tyres might stand a chance IMO.

[Rewe]

lyonspride said:

I wouldn't put any vehicle I owned anywhere near salt water, it's a death sentence.

Over-dramatic much?

[lyonspride]

Rewe said:

lyonspride said:

I wouldn't put any vehicle I owned anywhere near salt water, it's a death sentence.

Over-dramatic much?

For the poor sod who buys it after your lease/hire/pcp agreement is up, not at all.

[Rewe]

lyonspride said:

Rewe said:

lyonspride said:

I wouldn't put any vehicle I owned anywhere near salt water, it's a death sentence.

Over-dramatic much?

For the poor sod who buys it after your lease/hire/pcp agreement is up, not at all.

There won’t be another buyer. That trip to Skeggy will be its last!!!! :lol:

They could have done with you on that beach: you just won’t stop digging!

[Getragdogleg]

Johnnytheboy said:

Getragdogleg said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Bollycerb said:

Where were 4x4 Response when they were needed? :-0

Catching 40 20 winks.

16 winks surely ?

20 winks, because they sleep with one eye open.

I was going with 4X4 = 16.

it complicates it too much if you have subtract an unknown quantity of eyeballs from the equation.

[pidsy]

Should have dominated the sand.

[Piginapoke]

Life's a beach

[croyde]

lyonspride said:

So you'd put £50'000+ into a brand new 4x4 and then go screw it up?

I know plenty of people who put down £1'000 to £20'000 on an old 4x4 and head off green laning, but that's totally different.

Not quite £50k plus but it felt like it when I paid £36k cash for the then new Discovery 3 back in 2005. Some feker keyed it really badly on 9 of it's panels only 2 months later.

I didn't really care about it any more after that so I took it off road whenever I could. Always impressed the guys with old Landrovers when I turned up in a posh one and would then proceed to get more dents and scrapes all over it

It was still used as a family car and a load lugger.

Sold it when the warranty ran out for £10k

[anonymous-user]

popeyewhite said:

Rawwr said:

lyonspride said:

The answer is quite simple, when you spend hard earned cash on buying a car outright, you don't go driving like a bellend on a beach.

Fact?

Common sense. Except on PH, obviously. Only on PH could the difference between purchasing something hugely expensive for cash, or borrowing to pay for it and not really owning it at all be so blurred in terms of ownership pride.

lyonspride is correct - look how people treat hire cars, then add that element of hire into a normal car "purchase", combined with a much lower initial outlay and the prospect of just giving it back after 3 years and not having to worry about anything that may go wrong, and the result is that people treat their cars with a lot less care and mechanical sympathy than if they were in it for the long term. It's just human nature. I've purchased a car from new and it was treated with kid-gloves compared to all the older cars I've purchased for much lower amounts.

And before we get the usual "well i've pcped car X and wash and wax it down to the grommets every 4 hours..." , I am speaking in general terms, based on my observations of how people treat their cars day to day, combined with the age of such cars and given that a very high percentage of 1 to 2 year old cars were bought on finance (86.5% in 2017 acc. to Reuters).

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 23 April 20:00

[aeropilot]

Nickbrapp said:

I could get out of that in a mapped 335D on winters

[anonymous-user]

JimSuperSix said:

lyonspride is correct - look how people treat hire cars, then add that element of hire into a normal car "purchase", combined with a much lower initial outlay and the prospect of just giving it back after 3 years and not having to worry about anything that may go wrong, and the result is that people treat their cars with a lot less care and mechanical sympathy than if they were in it for the long term. It's just human nature. I've purchased a car from new and it was treated with kid-gloves compared to all the older cars I've purchased for much lower amounts.

And before we get the usual "well i've pcped car X and wash and wax it down to the grommets every 4 hours..." , I am speaking in general terms, based on my observations of how people treat their cars day to day, combined with the age of such cars and given that a very high percentage of 1 to 2 year old cars were bought on finance (86.5% in 2017 acc. to Reuters).

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 23 April 20:00

Only on PH could a thread involving a Range Rover and a beach turn into a cut and paste PCP thread.

I guess if nothing else the methods by which folk get to advance the same old stuff are getting more inventive

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 23 April 20:39

[anonymous-user]

Brooking10 said:

JimSuperSix said:

lyonspride is correct - look how people treat hire cars, then add that element of hire into a normal car "purchase", combined with a much lower initial outlay and the prospect of just giving it back after 3 years and not having to worry about anything that may go wrong, and the result is that people treat their cars with a lot less care and mechanical sympathy than if they were in it for the long term. It's just human nature. I've purchased a car from new and it was treated with kid-gloves compared to all the older cars I've purchased for much lower amounts.

And before we get the usual "well i've pcped car X and wash and wax it down to the grommets every 4 hours..." , I am speaking in general terms, based on my observations of how people treat their cars day to day, combined with the age of such cars and given that a very high percentage of 1 to 2 year old cars were bought on finance (86.5% in 2017 acc. to Reuters).

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 23 April 20:00

Only on PH could a thread involving a Range Rover and a beach turn into a cut and paste PCP thread.

I guess if nothing else the methods by which folk get to advance the same old stuff are getting more inventive

Edited by Brooking10 on Tuesday 23 April 20:39

If you say so, although you've missed the point.