RE: New Civic Type R testing at the Nurburgring
Discussion
rb_89 said:
I still don't like the fake grills on the back of the FK8,
They are so over the top that you'd be mad to think they're grills. Same with the front, they're just excessive styling features IMHO. Reminds me of the explosion of faux rear diffusers, oversized exhaust exits, and caricatures of various other performance car accoutrements that are found on porridge vehicles nowadays.Had a quick look - seems not much will change. This image shows just how little of the gaping 'vents' are functional though. What a joke.
It does look like there is a low-wing option in development at least, but with the rest of the addenda still stuck to the car it looks a little strange.
It does look like there is a low-wing option in development at least, but with the rest of the addenda still stuck to the car it looks a little strange.
moonigan said:
Derek Chevalier said:
I genuinely can't believe this is preventing you from buying one. If it worries you that much, buy the car, sell the 20s and buy some (cheaper) smaller wheels.
Its not that simple. The car has been setup to work with those wheels and fitting any old 19" wheels can have an adverse affect on the handling. Apparently the only wheel that will fit the car without ruining the handling is the 19" wheels fitted to the previous Type-R. https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-ma...
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FWIW none of my wheels are buckled but every one is kerbed - I'm not naming names
Derek Chevalier said:
I was reading that article at the weekend when pondering whether to get a set of track wheels for mine. Lots of people in the States are running track wheels with non-standard offsets and seem to be getting on OK
OK? I wouldn't base decisions too much on US forums, in the US they don't have much in the way of rutted roads like we have. You will get torque and brakesteer if offsetts are much changed. Definitely would recommend not to change offsets especially in the front. Perhaps in the rear a little spacer won't hurt. But I see little harm in getting a slightly smaller diameter, wider and lighter rim. What you loose in directness you gain in comfort, and reduced tramlining on said rutted roads... and directness can be mostly compensated with a little more toe. Onehp said:
Derek Chevalier said:
I was reading that article at the weekend when pondering whether to get a set of track wheels for mine. Lots of people in the States are running track wheels with non-standard offsets and seem to be getting on OK
OK? I wouldn't base decisions too much on US forums, in the US they don't have much in the way of rutted roads like we have. You will get torque and brakesteer if offsetts are much changed. Definitely would recommend not to change offsets especially in the front. Perhaps in the rear a little spacer won't hurt. But I see little harm in getting a slightly smaller diameter, wider and lighter rim. What you loose in directness you gain in comfort, and reduced tramlining on said rutted roads... and directness can be mostly compensated with a little more toe. I have to say 18k miles in I've not had any issue with my standard 20"s though
Ultrafunkula said:
I wonder if a rear spoiler delete is available yet? That is my biggest issue with the car and I think they'd sell more if it was an option.
It forms part of the rear aero though so i don't think you can just delete it without some implications. It's more than styling.Frimley111R said:
It forms part of the rear aero though so i don't think you can just delete it without some implications. It's more than styling.
I think the spoiler looks great. However, the US get a Civic Si Coupe that might be more palatable to some. Maybe Honda will do a Type R version?
moonigan said:
Its not that simple. The car has been setup to work with those wheels and fitting any old 19" wheels can have an adverse affect on the handling. Apparently the only wheel that will fit the car without ruining the handling is the 19" wheels fitted to the previous Type-R.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-ma...
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Having always downsized wheels to good effect on previous cars, I was shocked to find my FK8 didn't work half as well on Team Dynamic 18's as it did on the original 20's. Became very bland with the smaller rims. The car's character is defined by that razor-sharp turn-in and outrageous grip...https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-ma...
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SteveD said:
Having always downsized wheels to good effect on previous cars, I was shocked to find my FK8 didn't work half as well on Team Dynamic 18's as it did on the original 20's. Became very bland with the smaller rims. The car's character is defined by that razor-sharp turn-in and outrageous grip...
Which tyres? Handling on bad roads =/= sharpness, usually... Frimley111R said:
It forms part of the rear aero though so i don't think you can just delete it without some implications. It's more than styling.
I'd be happy with a lower top speed to counter the reduction in high speed stability, I can't imagine it has any other implications though.Hitch said:
Had a quick look - seems not much will change. This image shows just how little of the gaping 'vents' are functional though. What a joke.
It does look like there is a low-wing option in development at least, but with the rest of the addenda still stuck to the car it looks a little strange.
Why is it a 'joke' exactly? It's a Civic, not a LMP car?It does look like there is a low-wing option in development at least, but with the rest of the addenda still stuck to the car it looks a little strange.
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