RE: Nissan Almera GTI: Spotted
Discussion
greenarrow said:
My thoughts exactly, how ridiculous to compare a basic Almera where demand would be virtually nil to a rare top of the range model that is bound to appeal to someone! Compare the prices of Ford Sierra Cosworths to Sierra 1.8 LXs!!
The fact is these cars are extremely rare! 168 left including SORN according to "how many are left". I cant find another one for sale anywhere in the country TBH. So its worth whatever someone wants to pay for what is basically, with that mileage, a unique car!
It may be rare but I'd take a 200 SX over an Almera any day of the week.The fact is these cars are extremely rare! 168 left including SORN according to "how many are left". I cant find another one for sale anywhere in the country TBH. So its worth whatever someone wants to pay for what is basically, with that mileage, a unique car!
Are you honestly comparing this with a Sierra Cosworth?
Unsung heroes of the 90s. The 155bhp ZX 16v for one.
MissChief said:
vz-r_dave said:
As per my name I owned a Pulsar VZ-R with the SR16VE 170HP 8Kish rev limit. With a set of coil overs it was a fantastic car, handled like it was on rails and was relatively quick, not too much quicker than the Almera GTI but power delivery was much more fun.
A better HP/Litre value than a S2000!lord trumpton said:
I must be a fool and and easily part with money but I think the Almera here is worth every penny and I'd go so far to say the RS2000 isn't such a bad price either.
I mean look at the offerings of todays modern hatches - all the same euro s
te with very little character.
6.5k allows you to travel back in time and purchase a car that is as close to new as possible, bags of character, reliable, cheap to tax and is full of retro coolness. There's also a raft of cheap, readily available parts.
I'd be happy to buy that and drive it every day in principle and enjoy the feeling of having something retro, different and a bit special surrounding me.
I guess it appeals to the 'spare cash lying around' buyer who is dosed up on memories and nostalgia.
My only gripe is the colour - I'd have preferred the red as per the original advert for the complete nostalgia trip
Having recently paid 1500 quid for a top spec, needs nothing 2.0 Turbo SAAB 9-3 SE Coupe with 100k miles, I beg to differ.I mean look at the offerings of todays modern hatches - all the same euro s
te with very little character.6.5k allows you to travel back in time and purchase a car that is as close to new as possible, bags of character, reliable, cheap to tax and is full of retro coolness. There's also a raft of cheap, readily available parts.
I'd be happy to buy that and drive it every day in principle and enjoy the feeling of having something retro, different and a bit special surrounding me.
I guess it appeals to the 'spare cash lying around' buyer who is dosed up on memories and nostalgia.
My only gripe is the colour - I'd have preferred the red as per the original advert for the complete nostalgia trip
I had one of these as a company car back in 1997, it was good but not as good looking or powerful as my previous Rover 216GTi which was rear ended by a Disco that totally wrote it off. What I remember from the Almera GTi was that it was always raring to go, 2nd gear roll it was always eager to push on, and I always remember the optional Sony CD player which was amazing for it's time, makes me laugh now that I had to pay extra for remote locking as well.
It always amazes me that, considering this is supposed to be a forum for enthusiasts, how few people seem to have the most basic understanding of the classic/enthusiast market.
To me, this car is a bit pricey, but it isn't for everyone, as this proves. A car doesn't have to be good or even that interesting to be valuable. Weirdly, this car is good, is rare and is actually quite interesting, but some still don't see it.
What a funny place PH is.
To me, this car is a bit pricey, but it isn't for everyone, as this proves. A car doesn't have to be good or even that interesting to be valuable. Weirdly, this car is good, is rare and is actually quite interesting, but some still don't see it.
What a funny place PH is.
T-195 said:
Having recently paid 1500 quid for a top spec, needs nothing 2.0 Turbo SAAB 9-3 SE Coupe with 100k miles, I beg to differ.
But it's done 100k, the Almera hasn't.Jon_S_Rally said:
It always amazes me that, considering this is supposed to be a forum for enthusiasts, how few people seem to have the most basic understanding of the classic/enthusiast market.
To me, this car is a bit pricey, but it isn't for everyone, as this proves. A car doesn't have to be good or even that interesting to be valuable. Weirdly, this car is good, is rare and is actually quite interesting, but some still don't see it.
What a funny place PH is.
Yep, agree with what Jon says. To me, this car is a bit pricey, but it isn't for everyone, as this proves. A car doesn't have to be good or even that interesting to be valuable. Weirdly, this car is good, is rare and is actually quite interesting, but some still don't see it.
What a funny place PH is.
T-195 said:
Having recently paid 1500 quid for a top spec, needs nothing 2.0 Turbo SAAB 9-3 SE Coupe with 100k miles, I beg to differ.
But it's done 100k, the Almera hasn't.Plus the Saab is not an Almera Gti
You can buy a Porsche Boxster for 20k that will knock spots off an old Ferrari Dino dynamically .....but there's enough Ferrari fanboys out there to ensure the Dino is "worth" 10 times more.
For 6k this Almera looks very decent - 205gtis and Mk1 Golf GTis sell for multiples of this - reason being, people are nostalgic for different things/cars
soad said:
The thing is, for any particular budget there are always alternate choices to be had.
You really need to want the said car (Almera GTi).
It is not an alternative choice. The Pulsar VZR is an Almera GTi for the Japanese domestic market but had a 200BHP 1.6 as well as magnitude of other upgrades akin to what honda did to its EK9 Type-R when compared to a UK EK3 VTi.You really need to want the said car (Almera GTi).
s m said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
It always amazes me that, considering this is supposed to be a forum for enthusiasts, how few people seem to have the most basic understanding of the classic/enthusiast market.
To me, this car is a bit pricey, but it isn't for everyone, as this proves. A car doesn't have to be good or even that interesting to be valuable. Weirdly, this car is good, is rare and is actually quite interesting, but some still don't see it.
What a funny place PH is.
Yep, agree with what Jon says. To me, this car is a bit pricey, but it isn't for everyone, as this proves. A car doesn't have to be good or even that interesting to be valuable. Weirdly, this car is good, is rare and is actually quite interesting, but some still don't see it.
What a funny place PH is.
T-195 said:
Having recently paid 1500 quid for a top spec, needs nothing 2.0 Turbo SAAB 9-3 SE Coupe with 100k miles, I beg to differ.
But it's done 100k, the Almera hasn't.Plus the Saab is not an Almera Gti
You can buy a Porsche Boxster for 20k that will knock spots off an old Ferrari Dino dynamically .....but there's enough Ferrari fanboys out there to ensure the Dino is "worth" 10 times more.
For 6k this Almera looks very decent - 205gtis and Mk1 Golf GTis sell for multiples of this - reason being, people are nostalgic for different things/cars
As I should have said above I'd take an any miles 200 SX over any Almera.
T-195 said:
s m said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
It always amazes me that, considering this is supposed to be a forum for enthusiasts, how few people seem to have the most basic understanding of the classic/enthusiast market.
To me, this car is a bit pricey, but it isn't for everyone, as this proves. A car doesn't have to be good or even that interesting to be valuable. Weirdly, this car is good, is rare and is actually quite interesting, but some still don't see it.
What a funny place PH is.
Yep, agree with what Jon says. To me, this car is a bit pricey, but it isn't for everyone, as this proves. A car doesn't have to be good or even that interesting to be valuable. Weirdly, this car is good, is rare and is actually quite interesting, but some still don't see it.
What a funny place PH is.
T-195 said:
Having recently paid 1500 quid for a top spec, needs nothing 2.0 Turbo SAAB 9-3 SE Coupe with 100k miles, I beg to differ.
But it's done 100k, the Almera hasn't.Plus the Saab is not an Almera Gti
You can buy a Porsche Boxster for 20k that will knock spots off an old Ferrari Dino dynamically .....but there's enough Ferrari fanboys out there to ensure the Dino is "worth" 10 times more.
For 6k this Almera looks very decent - 205gtis and Mk1 Golf GTis sell for multiples of this - reason being, people are nostalgic for different things/cars
As I should have said above I'd take an any miles 200 SX over any Almera.
Find a 200SX in that condition and mileage and see what the price is - dare say it would be 5 figures.
Edited by s m on Friday 26th April 12:00
s m said:
T-195 said:
s m said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
It always amazes me that, considering this is supposed to be a forum for enthusiasts, how few people seem to have the most basic understanding of the classic/enthusiast market.
To me, this car is a bit pricey, but it isn't for everyone, as this proves. A car doesn't have to be good or even that interesting to be valuable. Weirdly, this car is good, is rare and is actually quite interesting, but some still don't see it.
What a funny place PH is.
Yep, agree with what Jon says. To me, this car is a bit pricey, but it isn't for everyone, as this proves. A car doesn't have to be good or even that interesting to be valuable. Weirdly, this car is good, is rare and is actually quite interesting, but some still don't see it.
What a funny place PH is.
T-195 said:
Having recently paid 1500 quid for a top spec, needs nothing 2.0 Turbo SAAB 9-3 SE Coupe with 100k miles, I beg to differ.
But it's done 100k, the Almera hasn't.Plus the Saab is not an Almera Gti
You can buy a Porsche Boxster for 20k that will knock spots off an old Ferrari Dino dynamically .....but there's enough Ferrari fanboys out there to ensure the Dino is "worth" 10 times more.
For 6k this Almera looks very decent - 205gtis and Mk1 Golf GTis sell for multiples of this - reason being, people are nostalgic for different things/cars
As I should have said above I'd take an any miles 200 SX over any Almera.
Find a 200SX in that condition and mileage and see what the price is - dare say it would be 5 figures.
Suspect this pretty much answers the question...overpriced?
andyman_2006 said:
s m said:
T-195 said:
s m said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
It always amazes me that, considering this is supposed to be a forum for enthusiasts, how few people seem to have the most basic understanding of the classic/enthusiast market.
To me, this car is a bit pricey, but it isn't for everyone, as this proves. A car doesn't have to be good or even that interesting to be valuable. Weirdly, this car is good, is rare and is actually quite interesting, but some still don't see it.
What a funny place PH is.
Yep, agree with what Jon says. To me, this car is a bit pricey, but it isn't for everyone, as this proves. A car doesn't have to be good or even that interesting to be valuable. Weirdly, this car is good, is rare and is actually quite interesting, but some still don't see it.
What a funny place PH is.
T-195 said:
Having recently paid 1500 quid for a top spec, needs nothing 2.0 Turbo SAAB 9-3 SE Coupe with 100k miles, I beg to differ.
But it's done 100k, the Almera hasn't.Plus the Saab is not an Almera Gti
You can buy a Porsche Boxster for 20k that will knock spots off an old Ferrari Dino dynamically .....but there's enough Ferrari fanboys out there to ensure the Dino is "worth" 10 times more.
For 6k this Almera looks very decent - 205gtis and Mk1 Golf GTis sell for multiples of this - reason being, people are nostalgic for different things/cars
As I should have said above I'd take an any miles 200 SX over any Almera.
Find a 200SX in that condition and mileage and see what the price is - dare say it would be 5 figures.
Suspect this pretty much answers the question...overpriced?
Take your pick!
T-195 said:
A Forum for motoring enthusiasts encouraging garage queenery
Not at all. Anyone who knows me will tell you that I use my cars and use them hard. I have no interest in a car I can't drive, but some people do, so good luck to them.I was simply pointing out that you can't compare a 100k miles car to one like this.
s m said:
It'll probably be a weekend toy for someone who likes 90s hot hatches or has a soft spot for an Almera Gti. most likely a high days and holidays car.
Find a 200SX in that condition and mileage and see what the price is - dare say it would be 5 figures.
Exactly. For £5-6k, I could see someone buying this and enjoy it. Plenty of other low mile 80s and 90s hot hatches out there that are enthusiast owned and enjoyed for a few hundred miles a year. It's not my cup of tea, which is why I never buy low mile minters, but it works for plenty of people.Find a 200SX in that condition and mileage and see what the price is - dare say it would be 5 figures.
Edited by s m on Friday 26th April 12:00
T-195 said:
It may be rare but I'd take a 200 SX over an Almera any day of the week.
Are you honestly comparing this with a Sierra Cosworth?
Unsung heroes of the 90s. The 155bhp ZX 16v for one.
This. Always fancied one of these or a Fiat Sedicivalvole, never see any good ones for sale. No doubt they are out there somewhere.Are you honestly comparing this with a Sierra Cosworth?
Unsung heroes of the 90s. The 155bhp ZX 16v for one.
BricktopST205 said:
soad said:
The thing is, for any particular budget there are always alternate choices to be had.
You really need to want the said car (Almera GTi).
It is not an alternative choice. The Pulsar VZR is an Almera GTi for the Japanese domestic market but had a 200BHP 1.6 as well as magnitude of other upgrades akin to what honda did to its EK9 Type-R when compared to a UK EK3 VTi.You really need to want the said car (Almera GTi).
monzaxjr said:
T-195 said:
Unsung heroes of the 90s. The 155bhp ZX 16v for one.
This. Always fancied one of these or a Fiat Sedicivalvole, never see any good ones for sale. No doubt they are out there somewhere.Still plenty of decent looking ones for sale in Europe though
LHD ....plus I suspect the prices in Euros will be a stretch too far for the classic hot hatch cognoscenti on here
72k miles, usual rust, £1320: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-Almera-N15-GTI-/...
My P2 had rusty rear arches too, which is when I sold it on. I heard the phase 1's were generally much less prone to rust.
My P2 had rusty rear arches too, which is when I sold it on. I heard the phase 1's were generally much less prone to rust.
Edited by Horsey McHorseface on Friday 26th April 20:25
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