The new 3er, thank F*** they've......

[Evercross]

W00DY said:

Shame it appears they've fitted a massive single piece of plastic where the kidney grilles normally go, like some scaled-up version of a cheap die-cast model.

OP is happy that the obvious front bonnet edge is gone, but the big single-piece grille with the bend at the top and bottom and the sticky-out bumper is the price paid.

All down to crash-protection regulations dictating the minimum distance between the leading edge of the bonnet and the front of the car, to stop it slicing into pedestrians. Two different solutions to the same problem, neither good from an aesthetic point of view.

Edited by Evercross on Thursday 25th April 12:51

[kambites]

Evercross said:

All down to crash-protection regulations dictating the minimum distance between the leading edge of the bonnet and the front of the car, to stop it slicing into pedestrians.

Does such a regulation exist? Audi seem to manage to run the bonnet right to the grille on the A5 as do lots of other manufacturers.

[Fast and Spurious]

Wills2 said:

I like these threads it always brings the angry little men out of hiding, barking at the night and trying to rude to strangers.

Trying to rude to strangers? What does that mean?

[ArsE92]

WJNB said:

Just 'thank goodness' would have been enough for this posting title. Why the need to be vulgar & common?

Also - why call it a 3er? It's a 3-series. Unless you're German.

It's also an estate. Or a tourer. Not a wagon.

[Ares]

FN2TypeR said:

Genuinely ghastly.

They'll sell millions of 'em.

At least it took three pages for this font of originality to get spouted.

[Ares]

BlueHave said:

So styling wise all they've done is change the front end.

But of course they'll bang on about improvement and hidden upgrades won't they in typical BMW fashion.

How's the Labrador?

[Ares]

WJNB said:

No worries the tasteless yob brigade will love it, thus taking the brand even further down market.
So where does one go for a classy premium saloon or sports car these days that is not as common as muck, without stigma or the social baggage that will not label you as a flash rich berk?

Just find a st one. No-one will buy those and you won't be common....

Or stop labelling people based on their cars?

[Ares]

kambites said:

As does the Jaguar XE, IMO, but the lower door cards aren't as cuddly so clearly it's an inferior car.

It's more the piss poor engine choices that leave it the territory of the silver-haired gentlemen.

[Ares]

RobM77 said:

I was horrified how badly the F30 I tried the other week drove.

Horrified?

[LuS1fer]

I always think BMW cannot possibly make their cars any uglier and yet, they do.. effortlessly.

[kambites]

Ares said:

It's more the piss poor engine choices that leave it the territory of the silver-haired gentlemen.

Is the four pot jaguar diesel that much worse than the BMW equivalent? I haven't really got much interest in either personally but they make up 90% percent of sales.

[RobM77]

Ares said:

RobM77 said:

I was horrified how badly the F30 I tried the other week drove.

Horrified?

Yes. If the car hadn't come from a BMW dealer I'd have assumed someone was playing a joke on me - the ride and handling were utterly awful.

[cayman-black]

kambites said:

As does the Jaguar XE, IMO, but the lower door cards aren't as cuddly so clearly it's an inferior car.

I agree the XE is a good call.

[Ares]

kambites said:

Ares said:

It's more the piss poor engine choices that leave it the territory of the silver-haired gentlemen.

Is the four pot jaguar diesel that much worse than the BMW equivalent? I haven't really got much interest in either personally but they make up 90% percent of sales.

It is, but I said choices.

The XE has a 2.0 diesel or a 2.0 petrol.

[kambites]

Ares said:

It is, but I said choices.

The XE has a 2.0 diesel or a 2.0 petrol.

Oh I agree that the XE is lacking top-end engines which will discount them for some people, but that's presumably not a concern for most buyers because most buyers don't buy the top end engines.

Whether people actually do discount the 2.0 diesel lump because there isn't a halo car is another question, I suppose. Some may.

[Ares]

kambites said:

Ares said:

It is, but I said choices.

The XE has a 2.0 diesel or a 2.0 petrol.

Oh I agree that the XE is lacking top-end engines which will discount them for some people, but that's presumably not a concern for most buyers because most buyers don't buy the top end engines.

Whether people actually do discount the 2.0 diesel lump because there isn't a halo car is another question, I suppose. Some may.

Again. I just said choice.

[kambites]

Ares said:

Again. I just said choice.

Yes but (unless I misunderstood) you said the poor choice leaves them in the hands of older people, which makes little sense when most young 3-series buyers are opting for a two litre diesel. If anything I'd expect elderly buyers who be more likely to opt for the larger engines.

[anonymous-user]

WJNB said:

Just 'thank goodness' would have been enough for this posting title. Why the need to be vulgar & common?

Do you actually like cars, I can't see much evidence tbh?

[anonymous-user]

illmonkey said:

A good size ref pic, ridiculous!

That is ridiculous. It is basically man spreading but on a car. Ready to dominate the highways.

[Touring442]

Wooda80 said:

Love it whenever they bring a new car out and it's apparently never as good as the one 20 years ago, which in turn was a travesty of the one before that.

Give it 10 years and people will be eulogising these when it's a £3000 Shed Of The Week ( That's inflation for you )

Indeed. Apparently the E46 was the best one ever made - news to me. Given the funds, I think most of us would jump at a new one - I'll have a 330i M Sport in black, a really pretty car. Everyone seemed to hate the F30, yet I drove a few and found them all very good.