RE: Vegantune Evante: Spotted

RE: Vegantune Evante: Spotted

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DKL

4,491 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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I nearly bought one back in the day. Duncan Hamilton had taken it in px for a lotus engined AC Ace IIRC.
I recall it being ok but as I was looking at a Marcos Mantula and a Caterham 21 as well it didn't prevail.
21 won and I still have it.

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

173 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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loskie said:
First thought was the back end looked like an alfa spider HOWEVER a second look at the rear said Ford Orion.

"Vegan"tune!

You couldn't take it to a car meat then!!!getmecoat
I lol'd!

s m

23,228 posts

203 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Strider said:
I relaunched the Mk 1 with George Robinson then launched the Mk 2, although why they just stopped production of the car that was starting to sell while they developed a revised model that was heavier, slower, less nimble and a lot less pretty is still a mystery. Press coverage was extensive and highly favourable. We even had it on the cover of Performance Car and Director and a huge piece in The Daily Telegraph. Looking back, I feel very lucky to have been part of a special era in British automotive manufacturing, even if not all the lessons-learnt about these companies living on little more than passion and hope were positive. Evante was the last of a bread that could not survive in the twenty first century. This is one of the Mk 2 launch pics, with a youthful me at the wheel.

Edited by Strider on Thursday 25th April 10:05
I remember the Performance Car article and cover you mention!




williamp

19,260 posts

273 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Back in 1990 fast lane magazinec compared one to the (then new) M100 Elan and it campared very favourabley. I think the author decided he would choose the evanter, but many more would choose the Elan.


s m

23,228 posts

203 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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williamp said:
Back in 1990 fast lane magazinec compared one to the (then new) M100 Elan and it campared very favourabley. I think the author decided he would choose the evanter, but many more would choose the Elan.
They also had it up against the TVR 390SE and Scimitar 1800 ti a bit before that
Remember being interested in reading that one as had the TVR factory 390 SE on demo for a bit

Kevin-sz0nv

261 posts

106 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Back in the day Vegantune used to fettle the Elan engines getting 150bhp and putting their own cam covers on the cars. They also restored Elans as in full restorations. I bought a series 4 Elan that Vegantune had just converted to Sprint spec and it was a lovely car the engine felt far stronger than the 25bhp quoted for the original Sprint's. Their work was to a really good standard every wire was marked the paintwork was spot on etc it really looked and ftike a new car. I took the car to be serviced by them at Spalding, they all seemed to love their jobs and Lotus. I even bought some new different spec knock on alloys after this pic from Christopher Neals in Northwich I bet there are not many of them still around. Here is my car plus an engine pic that wasn't mine I had the original black new lotus cam covers.



73RS

71 posts

208 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Test drove a mk1 a few years ago that a classic car dealer was selling. Was an excellent drive, and very good looking and I almost bought it
Like the Elan it feels very small in modern traffic. Could never understand the ugly mk2 face(arse)lift - spending money they didn't have on a super low volume model....to make it worse.

fatbutt

2,656 posts

264 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Strider said:
I relaunched the Mk 1 with George Robinson then launched the Mk 2, although why they just stopped production of the car that was starting to sell while they developed a revised model that was heavier, slower, less nimble and a lot less pretty is still a mystery. Press coverage was extensive and highly favourable. We even had it on the cover of Performance Car and Director and a huge piece in The Daily Telegraph. Looking back, I feel very lucky to have been part of a special era in British automotive manufacturing, even if not all the lessons-learnt about these companies living on little more than passion and hope were positive. Evante was the last of a bread that could not survive in the twenty first century. This is one of the Mk 2 launch pics, with a youthful me at the wheel.

Edited by Strider on Thursday 25th April 10:05


Nice to hear from someone close to the project. I remember when they came out and the press was gushing praise. I hate these PH articles that start with '... you've never heard of.', some of us are over 40! I certainly remember the evante and have the appropriate levels of appreciation; it was an excellent car.

Gez79

217 posts

183 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Turbobanana said:
Gez79 said:
The original version is much prettier.

Think those rear lights are actually off a Triumph TR7/8 unless someone is going to tell me that triumph used Alfa lights?
Right on both counts - apologies for my earlier recollection that they were Alfa GTVs.
No worries, I grew up near to a Rover V8 and Triumph specialist and there were always 20+ TR's parked outside. But I was worried that after making that comment someone was going to tell me that Triumph used hand me down Alfa lights!

herebebeasties

668 posts

219 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Interesting and rare car, but am struggling to see why you would over an S1 Elise for similar money.

soad

32,898 posts

176 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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herebebeasties said:
Interesting and rare car, but am struggling to see why you would over an S1 Elise for similar money.
Spot on.

Turbobanana

6,271 posts

201 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Gez79 said:
Turbobanana said:
Gez79 said:
The original version is much prettier.

Think those rear lights are actually off a Triumph TR7/8 unless someone is going to tell me that triumph used Alfa lights?
Right on both counts - apologies for my earlier recollection that they were Alfa GTVs.
No worries, I grew up near to a Rover V8 and Triumph specialist and there were always 20+ TR's parked outside. But I was worried that after making that comment someone was going to tell me that Triumph used hand me down Alfa lights!
No, TR7s needed no more invitations to rust smile

Strider

165 posts

231 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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[quote=fatbutt]

Nice to hear from someone close to the project. I remember when they came out and the press was gushing praise. I hate these PH articles that start with '... you've never heard of.', some of us are over 40! I certainly remember the evante and have the appropriate levels of appreciation; it was an excellent car.
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Thanks FB. Good to hear that so many PHers remember the cars through the press articles. The Mk 1 really was very good and pretty too. The story behind the management of the business was rather different. One day it will make a fine book.

Equus

16,900 posts

101 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Kevin-sz0nv said:
Back in the day Vegantune used to fettle the Elan engines getting 150bhp and putting their own cam covers on the cars.
They did rather more than that, in the end, as the pic demonstrates: they eventually produced their own engine (based on a Crossflow block, with their own head and cam carriers), the Vegantune VTA. The big difference, as shown in the pic, is that it had belt driven cams instead of the chain driven cams of the Lotus engine, but it remained 8 valves.

They supplied to Caterham, at one stage, when the Lotus Twin Cam went out of production and supplies dried up.

From memory, it was a little more powerful than the Sprint spec. Lotus Twin Cam in standard tune (130bhp vs. 126bhp for the Sprint), but could be tuned up to 175bhp.

Strider

165 posts

231 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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williamp said:
Back in 1990 fast lane magazinec compared one to the (then new) M100 Elan and it campared very favourabley. I think the author decided he would choose the evanter, but many more would choose the Elan.
If I remember correctly, that was a piece by Peter Dron. If the client wanted to come out on road tests, I'd invite them out with Peter as he was not only an extraordinarily skilled driver, but also extraordinarily brave. A few minutes in the passenger seat ensured that future outings would be uncompromised by the client's CEO gushing sales brochure praise.

Icehanger

394 posts

222 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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So that's a poor Kitcar Then

bobtail4x4

3,716 posts

109 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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if anyone wants an early evante,
a friend of mine died earlier this year, leaving the press car, to be sold on behalf of his widow.
I know little about it, other than its been standing ( went to buy it with him some years back)

I can findout more and provide photos,

Lotobear

6,349 posts

128 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Vegatune were also producing 'tall block' Lotus twincam engines with re cast original pattern chain drive Lotus TC heads as late as 1979 for supply to Caterham. I know this as I have one sitting next to me in my office as I write (which came from a factory built Caterham Silver Jubilee edition). The head casting is very much better that the earlier Lotus ones.

Incidentally a Zetec fits an Elan without resulting in the jacked up appearance - there's a 200BHP Dunnel engine in this one and it goes like effin' stink!


sideways man

1,316 posts

137 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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I had a vegantune engine in my S4 elan, which made progress pretty well.
After a few elan free years, spent some time looking for an Evante S1, but in the late 1990’s they were pretty hard to find. Went for a sunbeam lotus instead.

DP33

183 posts

126 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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I remember Fast Lane being all over the original 1980's version and it being a bit of a hero with a great chassis, 150hp (?) and solid build quality.