RE: Skoda Superb Estate meets Jaguar XF Sportbrake

[silentbrown]

MrGTI6 said:

Agreed, you'd think there would be a much larger difference between the two in terms of price. The Jag would be well worth the extra.

There is a much larger price difference. The Jag costs £48,640, not £44,700,so it's over £10K more!



Also, broker discount on Superbs is about 20% vs 17% on the XF, so you're really comparing a £30K car with a £40K one.

Edited by silentbrown on Saturday 27th April 13:46

[Pothole]

eponymous

adjective
(of a person) giving their name to something.
"the eponymous hero of the novel"
(of a thing) named after a particular person or group.
"their eponymous debut LP"

Perhaps you mean ubiquitous?

[GetCarter]

silentbrown said:

There is a much larger price difference. The Jag costs £48,640, not £44,700,so it's over £10K more!



Also, broker discount on Superbs is about 20% vs 17% on the XF, so you're really comparing a £30K car with a £40K one.

Edited by silentbrown on Saturday 27th April 13:46

I got 9k off my new Jag, so the figure is not accurate.

[fatboy b]

akadk said:

The V6 twin turbo diesel XF S makes much more sense with 300PS/700Nm

Not really given the issues with oil dilution they’re having.

[fatboy b]

liner33 said:

Having owned a Skoda Superb and a Jag XF , I would own another Superb , but never another Jag , but agree with the other £38k+ on a Skoda is too much imo but the days of high quality Jags are gone also so I dont think they are good value for money either

Sadly true on the Jags. The XE and new XF have taken a nose-dive on quality.

[GetCarter]

fatboy b said:

akadk said:

The V6 twin turbo diesel XF S makes much more sense with 300PS/700Nm

Not really given the issues with oil dilution they’re having.

I certainly wasn't going to buy a diesel considering what will happen over the next few years. Also, the petrol I bought also has 300PS

[XRMike]

The Skoda has always appealed to me. Such a sleeper from the factory with Golf R performance but without all the hassle that comes with it (theft etc).

The Jaguar looks the part and im sure it's great car but Skoda have nailed it.

The Skoda just needs to be that little bit cheaper!

[silentbrown]

GetCarter said:

silentbrown said:

There is a much larger price difference. The Jag costs £48,640, not £44,700,so it's over £10K more!



Also, broker discount on Superbs is about 20% vs 17% on the XF, so you're really comparing a £30K car with a £40K one.

I got 9k off my new Jag, so the figure is not accurate.

Which, the 17% figure? That's just ballpark based on one broker, but by the time you've added metallic paint and a couple of other bits, 17% of list price would be pretty close to £9K...

[ninjag]

Zumbruk said:

I *so* wanted an XFR-S Sportbrake, but they're like rocking horse poo (the last time I looked there was *one* on Auto Trader and it was a 700 mile round trip to go and look at it). What a pity this Jag has to make do with a 4 cylinder engine, no matter its power output. Oh, well. Can't have everything. Where would you keep it?

There's two on AT at the moment and I'm surely tempted myself but I think it will be a good few years before I move back to petrol.

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[GetCarter]

silentbrown said:

Which, the 17% figure? That's just ballpark based on one broker, but by the time you've added metallic paint and a couple of other bits, 17% of list price would be pretty close to £9K...

Don't quite understand the question, but it was main dealer: high spec sportbrake, 300ps AWD: 51k to 42k

[liner33]

And 41k is about 10k more than you could get the Skoda for so the 10k difference is entirely valid

[GetCarter]

liner33 said:

And 41k is about 10k more than you could get the Skoda for so the 10k difference is entirely valid

Indeed, but I never looked at the Skoda, as my wife already has one. I was looking between Jag, Audi and BM.

[Roger Irrelevant]

Have the people saying "38k is too much for a Skoda" just woken from a thirty-year coma? I've never bought a new car and am not likely to any time soon but even I know that only a lunatic pays list for anything vaguely ordinary in this day and age. Google 'Skoda Superb Discount' and lo and behold on the first website I click on a Sportline Plus can be had for under £30k. Which seems alright to me, and is what I'd go for.

[ruggedscotty]

GetCarter said:

fatboy b said:

akadk said:

The V6 twin turbo diesel XF S makes much more sense with 300PS/700Nm

Not really given the issues with oil dilution they’re having.

I certainly wasn't going to buy a diesel considering what will happen over the next few years. Also, the petrol I bought also has 300PS

And you think petrol will get off lightly? anything with an IC is going to be taxed off of the road. remember c02 with petrol and co2 is the bad boy indeed compared to diesel emissions.

[dhamilton99]

The new XFs and by extension the XEs are wonderful to drive. As mentioned in the article the only real let down with them is the fact that theyve mostly limited them to the ingenium engines. We have an XFS sportbrake at work the the 3.0 TDV6 and its definitely the right engine for a car of this size. Given the choice I'd take either of Jags saloons over its german rivals.

[Water Fairy]

Roger Irrelevant said:

Have the people saying "38k is too much for a Skoda" just woken from a thirty-year coma? I've never bought a new car and am not likely to any time soon but even I know that only a lunatic pays list for anything vaguely ordinary in this day and age. Google 'Skoda Superb Discount' and lo and behold on the first website I click on a Sportline Plus can be had for under £30k. Which seems alright to me, and is what I'd go for.

But if list wasn't as high as 38k then after discount it would be even cheaper wouldn't it? No-one pays list, as you say for 'ordinary' stuff so I'm not quite sure what your point is?

[Wynn Duffy]

BMW 520D Sport Touring X drive, may be more expensive, but a no brainer, (as trademarked by TV's Mr James May)
I do like the Superb, I really do, had one for a month or so last year, yes it is bigger than a 5 Series, but nothing I have ever driven has been as good as a 5 series. Its like a big Golf, the only car you will ever need.

[akadk]

fatboy b said:

akadk said:

The V6 twin turbo diesel XF S makes much more sense with 300PS/700Nm

Not really given the issues with oil dilution they’re having.

Not an issue for the V6, nor the XF for that matter.

[CDP]

Water Fairy said:

Roger Irrelevant said:

Have the people saying "38k is too much for a Skoda" just woken from a thirty-year coma? I've never bought a new car and am not likely to any time soon but even I know that only a lunatic pays list for anything vaguely ordinary in this day and age. Google 'Skoda Superb Discount' and lo and behold on the first website I click on a Sportline Plus can be had for under £30k. Which seems alright to me, and is what I'd go for.

But if list wasn't as high as 38k then after discount it would be even cheaper wouldn't it? No-one pays list, as you say for 'ordinary' stuff so I'm not quite sure what your point is?

I don't understand the high lists so many people have company cars and pay BIK on the list price.

[Roger Irrelevant]

Water Fairy said:

Roger Irrelevant said:

Have the people saying "38k is too much for a Skoda" just woken from a thirty-year coma? I've never bought a new car and am not likely to any time soon but even I know that only a lunatic pays list for anything vaguely ordinary in this day and age. Google 'Skoda Superb Discount' and lo and behold on the first website I click on a Sportline Plus can be had for undder £30k. Which seems alright to me, and is what I'd go for.

But if list wasn't as high as 38k then after discount it would be even cheaper wouldn't it? No-one pays list, as you say for 'ordinary' stuff so I'm not quite sure what your point is?

My point is that it doesn't matter if £38k is too much for a Skoda if you don't need to pay anything like £38k for it.