RE: Skoda Superb Estate meets Jaguar XF Sportbrake
Discussion
I really like both of them 
Was seriously considering a Superb Sportline Estate when i bought my current car but in the end decided it was actually TOO big for my needs.
Lovely cars though.
The Jag is obviously a more premium product and the price difference reflects it.
Really can't understand why so many folk choose to buy SUV's over cars like these when they are looking for a practical wagon, the lower, deeper boot alone makes them so much more practical.
They look so much better than their SUV equivalents too.
Was seriously considering a Superb Sportline Estate when i bought my current car but in the end decided it was actually TOO big for my needs.
Lovely cars though.
The Jag is obviously a more premium product and the price difference reflects it.
Really can't understand why so many folk choose to buy SUV's over cars like these when they are looking for a practical wagon, the lower, deeper boot alone makes them so much more practical.
They look so much better than their SUV equivalents too.
fatboy b said:
liner33 said:
Having owned a Skoda Superb and a Jag XF , I would own another Superb , but never another Jag , but agree with the other £38k+ on a Skoda is too much imo but the days of high quality Jags are gone also so I dont think they are good value for money either
Sadly true on the Jags. The XE and new XF have taken a nose-dive on quality. Although I like my Octavia, I have always lusted after a Jag and was really hoping to be wowed by this car and to come away thinking - that's my next car if i can get a decent lease deal. Sadly, it felt nothing special at all. Audi/BMW/Merc have nothing to fear if this is what they're still like.
Accepted the XF-R may be a different animal, though it'll still be cramped. A 520, A6 2.0 and especially an E220 have this thing well and truely beat.
I bought a new Superb 280 L&K in Sept 17. £40k list, £32.5k through a broker. Done 18k miles and WBAC does a current valuation of £21k.
Super car, £195 for first service and about 32 mpg, although spread is 24 to 37.
I want to keep it for ever and sell it now for something more exciting, but hope I’ll keep it as it is so good at flying under the radar and eating the miles. The fact I have a Skoda (amongst a range of more stupid cars) really confuses people.
It is quite hard to access the Golf R engine performance though I find; it just doesn’t feel right ragging this quite civilised package around.
Super car, £195 for first service and about 32 mpg, although spread is 24 to 37.
I want to keep it for ever and sell it now for something more exciting, but hope I’ll keep it as it is so good at flying under the radar and eating the miles. The fact I have a Skoda (amongst a range of more stupid cars) really confuses people.
It is quite hard to access the Golf R engine performance though I find; it just doesn’t feel right ragging this quite civilised package around.
Hairymonster said:
fatboy b said:
liner33 said:
Having owned a Skoda Superb and a Jag XF , I would own another Superb , but never another Jag , but agree with the other £38k+ on a Skoda is too much imo but the days of high quality Jags are gone also so I dont think they are good value for money either
Sadly true on the Jags. The XE and new XF have taken a nose-dive on quality. Although I like my Octavia, I have always lusted after a Jag and was really hoping to be wowed by this car and to come away thinking - that's my next car if i can get a decent lease deal. Sadly, it felt nothing special at all. Audi/BMW/Merc have nothing to fear if this is what they're still like.
Accepted the XF-R may be a different animal, though it'll still be cramped. A 520, A6 2.0 and especially an E220 have this thing well and truely beat.
fatboy b said:
The R is a different animal, and the R-S even more so. Sadly nothing like it in the current XF range, so I’ll be keeping my R-S for a while. Streets ahead of the newer XF in terms of quality, and way better than the German offerings.
Performance wise yes but equipment levels are pretty poor on the xfr and xfr s. 
liner33 said:
fatboy b said:
The R is a different animal, and the R-S even more so. Sadly nothing like it in the current XF range, so I’ll be keeping my R-S for a while. Streets ahead of the newer XF in terms of quality, and way better than the German offerings.
Performance wise yes but equipment levels are pretty poor on the xfr and xfr s. Hairymonster said:
I recently had a lift in an XF saloon - 2.0 diesel. I was looking forward to it as I'd never been in one before. I found it disappointing - low rent cabin, awful entertainment/satnav system, not much legroom front or rear - less than my Octavia, let alone the Superb.
I'd have the Superb every day over the Jag. I'd even have my Octavia over the Jag!
Anyone who buys the Skoda over the XF because it has a better sat nav and more What Car? appeal in the lower dash plastics deserves all of the jumped up econo-car ride and handling they get. Yes the Jaguar is very disappointing in many ways, but the way it feels to drive is beyond reproach.I'd have the Superb every day over the Jag. I'd even have my Octavia over the Jag!
As others have said though, the 300ps V6 diesel is a much better engine than the heavily boosted four and will elevate the car way above the Skoda. A 5 series or E Class is the same with a 4 pot vs 6 pot; a proper engine matters a lot more to the "premium" feel than stupid toys and fripperies.
I'd buy a 530d
Edited by dme123 on Sunday 28th April 12:14
akadk said:
liner33 said:
fatboy b said:
The R is a different animal, and the R-S even more so. Sadly nothing like it in the current XF range, so I’ll be keeping my R-S for a while. Streets ahead of the newer XF in terms of quality, and way better than the German offerings.
Performance wise yes but equipment levels are pretty poor on the xfr and xfr s. GetCarter said:
silentbrown said:
Which, the 17% figure? That's just ballpark based on one broker, but by the time you've added metallic paint and a couple of other bits, 17% of list price would be pretty close to £9K..
Don't quite understand the question, but it was main dealer: high spec sportbrake, 300ps AWD: 51k to 42kThere's also pretty major differences in standard spec between the two. Sportline Plus has stuff like keyless entry, electric/memory seats, 19" wheels, adaptive cruise, blind spot warning, all of which seem to be extra on the R Sport.
I'd be very curious about the actual "list price as tested" of the two cars. I wouldn't be surprised if the XF is close to £60K, given there's around £5K of options (wheels, lights, veneer, dash, black pack etc..) immediately visible in the shots.
liner33 said:
akadk said:
liner33 said:
fatboy b said:
The R is a different animal, and the R-S even more so. Sadly nothing like it in the current XF range, so I’ll be keeping my R-S for a while. Streets ahead of the newer XF in terms of quality, and way better than the German offerings.
Performance wise yes but equipment levels are pretty poor on the xfr and xfr s. I still prefer it to anything new from Germany.
For me the Jag wins hands down. The only thing is, as a current XF Sportbrake owner, it has averaged at least one visit per month to the dealership over the past 2 years for warranty and work and is currently back there having had a major electrical fault. Unfortunately my car will b emoved on in the near future and i'll be going back to the boring, reliable German/Czech folk.
ST150HB said:
For me the Jag wins hands down. The only thing is, as a current XF Sportbrake owner, it has averaged at least one visit per month to the dealership over the past 2 years for warranty and work and is currently back there having had a major electrical fault. Unfortunately my car will b emoved on in the near future and i'll be going back to the boring, reliable German/Czech folk.
Germans aren’t any better. Our Golf has been in once a month in our 3-year ownership. Worst car I’ve experienced. My past German cars were warranty queens too. Forgive the anticipated & predictable observation by there is still the semblance of stigma when it comes to Skoda. It just doesn't pass muster in the executive/directors car parks or on the drives of middle-class neo-Georgian housing estates.
As an owner you would forever feel the need to explain & justify buying one over a premium brand & we all know the phrase 'he who protesteth too much ......"
Let Skoda sell to Plod, taxi owners & those without the remotest interest in cars & driving, but I wish they would stop trying to be something they 'ain't.
As an owner you would forever feel the need to explain & justify buying one over a premium brand & we all know the phrase 'he who protesteth too much ......"
Let Skoda sell to Plod, taxi owners & those without the remotest interest in cars & driving, but I wish they would stop trying to be something they 'ain't.
Both hamstrung in my opinion.
The Skoda, despite it’s numerous attributes, has found itself in an expensive niche (tax issues for a company car user, wrong badge for a private individual) and although I can see the appeal, I just wouldn’t part with my own money for one.
The Jaguar. Reliability. I know 6 people who own, or have owned JLR products less than 4 years old. Each of them have had, or are having numerous quality issues that JLR/ have seemed incapable of dealing with which has resulted in two rejected vehicles (one of which was on its third engine at less than 6k miles from new) two owners who have sold earlier to jump into another manufacturers cars, and two more who are looking to change.
Even if I liked any of the products that JLR make, which I don’t, the above would put me off owning one.
The Skoda, despite it’s numerous attributes, has found itself in an expensive niche (tax issues for a company car user, wrong badge for a private individual) and although I can see the appeal, I just wouldn’t part with my own money for one.
The Jaguar. Reliability. I know 6 people who own, or have owned JLR products less than 4 years old. Each of them have had, or are having numerous quality issues that JLR/ have seemed incapable of dealing with which has resulted in two rejected vehicles (one of which was on its third engine at less than 6k miles from new) two owners who have sold earlier to jump into another manufacturers cars, and two more who are looking to change.
Even if I liked any of the products that JLR make, which I don’t, the above would put me off owning one.
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