RE: Aston Martin Vantage AMR arrives - with manual

[MX6]

I'm loving this, really into the fact that it has a 7 speed dog leg manual, plus the added lightness. I like the racey trim details and even the wheels as well, one for the fantasy garage.

[anonymous-user]

NFC 85 Vette said:

Fetchez la vache said:

So an extra £15k for added lime bits? Seriously?
I was assuming it was just a no-cost delete option to get that crap off...

I think that's an over simplification of what goes into the AMR.
- Carbon brakes
- 95kg lighter
- Manual transmission
- differential change (no e-diff in the AMR)
- AMR forged lightweight wheels

It's gone on a bigger diet than the Pista did for the 488, which I think is impressive, but some look at it and think it's just some lime essence coloured accents on a standard Vantage. It's a similar recipe to what Porsche, Ferrari and McLaren offer...and nobody questions them...

No, I think he's right. From the article, "The Vantage AMR is on sale now from £149,995, with Vantage 59-specced models from £164,995 ". So £15k over the AMR version for the lime green version.

[Fetchez la vache]

NFC 85 Vette said:

Fetchez la vache said:

So an extra £15k for added lime bits? Seriously?
I was assuming it was just a no-cost delete option to get that crap off...

I think that's an over simplification of what goes into the AMR.
- Carbon brakes
- 95kg lighter
- Manual transmission
- differential change (no e-diff in the AMR)
- AMR forged lightweight wheels

It's gone on a bigger diet than the Pista did for the 488, which I think is impressive, but some look at it and think it's just some lime essence coloured accents on a standard Vantage. It's a similar recipe to what Porsche, Ferrari and McLaren offer...and nobody questions them...

Ah, but that's not what the article is indicating (?)

Article said:

The Vantage AMR is on sale now from £149,995, with Vantage 59-specced models from £164,995

I read that as the AMR car with the bits you have listed is £150k, and then add limey bits for another £15k.
The car minus lime bits sounds cracking,

[jakesmith]

Love the car and everything it represents.
Hate the yellow detailing it's chavtastic

[Swine Enthusiast]

Sure it's a great car but I must not be the only person on Pistonheads who think every Aston released recently has an absolutely gopping interior? For a premium product the actual design, from the steering wheel to the layouts look horrific (to my eyes).

Need to steal the chief interior designer from BMW or Mercedes.

[WCZ]

I think 95kg is a good amount of weight saved and the price is reasonable when compared to other lightweight 'special editions'
911 t £8k for -5kg
718 t £7,071 for - 0.5kg
bmw m3 cs £30,000 for -10kg

Edited by WCZ on Wednesday 1st May 13:21

[cerb4.5lee]

I just can't get on with the looks of this...but I really applaud Aston Martin for offering a proper three pedal manual version though for sure.

[British Beef]

Stunning and perfect, even the front end is growing on me (sans number plate)…….if only price was the right side of £100k, but those days of entry AM are gone!!

[ManyMotors]

It is difficult to determine what is going on at Aston Martin Lagonda. The vehicles it makes are large, heavy and generally look old. Contrast them with offerings from Lamborghini, Ferrari or McLaren. The company seems lost and, most importantly, that shows in its share price: since the IPO, Aston Martin Lagonda is down 43% during a period when overall markets are up substantially. Andy Palmer better get things in gear or, in addition to his own failure, he'll take down the company.

[jl4069]

ManyMotors said:

It is difficult to determine what is going on at Aston Martin Lagonda. The vehicles it makes are large, heavy and generally look old. Contrast them with offerings from Lamborghini, Ferrari or McLaren. The company seems lost and, most importantly, that shows in its share price: since the IPO, Aston Martin Lagonda is down 43% during a period when overall markets are up substantially. Andy Palmer better get things in gear or, in addition to his own failure, he'll take down the company.

Very well said. They'll need to do a lot better in the weight dept. What is wrong, Aston is unable to match the material weights that Porsche and Mclaren can now achieve. We live in a society where everyone believes they need to accept the status quo, to accept the word of corps as good enough, even if not all that great.

On a semi positive note (of course not mentioned on this pro-autocar site), at least evo magazine found the same issues (called this aston out as too heavy and with handling issues) with this new Vantage, and the issues actually spurred Aston to redesign aspects of the suspension-a least a start. Most on here likely did not know this and most will not care one bit...precisely why manufacturers should listen to experts (Steve Jobs said similar) and not customers for things such as how to design a chassis or monocoque structures.

Edited by jl4069 on Wednesday 1st May 19:50

[howardhughes]

aston addict said:

Seen a few of these in the flesh and they are pretty arresting, but so heavily dependent on spec. Leave the chavtastic 60yr thing, save the cash and spec a nice colour without black wheels. At least it’s something different, compared to the ubiquitous 911.

And plaudits to Aston for having a manual in the range.

I'm a big Aston Martin fan and equally a 911 lover too. As for the latter there is nothing wrong with a reliable everyday super car even if they are 'ubiquitous'

[ReaperCushions]

Arsecati said:

I've as much interest in a manual one of these as I do in leaf-spring suspension and cross-plys. Absolutely hilarious in my 30 year old Porker and 205 GTi.............. but I want my hands on the wheel and gearshifts at my fingertips in something like this. But each to their own I guess.

100% agree on this. I don't understand how a performance variant can really have a manual gear shift anymore with all the advancement in auto box technology.

You're essentially blunting the performance of the car.

A manual in the standard car.. makes sense. People who want a more visceral driving experience.. sure I get it.

[GroundEffect]

NFC 85 Vette said:

Fetchez la vache said:

So an extra £15k for added lime bits? Seriously?
I was assuming it was just a no-cost delete option to get that crap off...

I think that's an over simplification of what goes into the AMR.
- Carbon brakes
- 95kg lighter
- [b]Manual transmission
- differential change (no e-diff in the AMR)[/b]
- AMR forged lightweight wheels

It's gone on a bigger diet than the Pista did for the 488, which I think is impressive, but some look at it and think it's just some lime essence coloured accents on a standard Vantage. It's a similar recipe to what Porsche, Ferrari and McLaren offer...and nobody questions them...

Because it wouldn't have had one in it...this is a torque-tube transaxle isn't it?

And I bet 50kg of the weight reduction is from the transmission alone...(plus 3-5kg on the control electronics for it).

[XJR500bhp]

Arsecati said:

I've as much interest in a manual one of these as I do in leaf-spring suspension and cross-plys. Absolutely hilarious in my 30 year old Porker and 205 GTi.............. but I want my hands on the wheel and gearshifts at my fingertips in something like this. But each to their own I guess.

That’s cause you’re a poof

[Nerdherder]

Exterior can be specified to something less shouty fortunately. Interior design I couldn’t live with.

[ReaperCushions]

XJR500bhp said:

Arsecati said:

I've as much interest in a manual one of these as I do in leaf-spring suspension and cross-plys. Absolutely hilarious in my 30 year old Porker and 205 GTi.............. but I want my hands on the wheel and gearshifts at my fingertips in something like this. But each to their own I guess.

That’s cause you’re a poof

Prick.

[Redline88]

ReaperCushions said:

Arsecati said:

I've as much interest in a manual one of these as I do in leaf-spring suspension and cross-plys. Absolutely hilarious in my 30 year old Porker and 205 GTi.............. but I want my hands on the wheel and gearshifts at my fingertips in something like this. But each to their own I guess.

100% agree on this. I don't understand how a performance variant can really have a manual gear shift anymore with all the advancement in auto box technology.

You're essentially blunting the performance of the car.

A manual in the standard car.. makes sense. People who want a more visceral driving experience.. sure I get it.

The thing is, most people who will drive this car on a circuit won’t be able to extract 80% of the full potential of the car. On the road, that’s probably drops to 30% at the maximum. In such instances, the 0.2 seconds of a quicker shift make no difference whatsoever but having the ability to connect man and machine can make the drive more enjoyable.

So hats off to Aston for continuing to offer the option of a stick and 3 pedals - I’m a big fan

[British Beef]

Redline88 said:

The thing is, most people who will drive this car on a circuit won’t be able to extract 80% of the full potential of the car. On the road, that’s probably drops to 30% at the maximum. In such instances, the 0.2 seconds of a quicker shift make no difference whatsoever but having the ability to connect man and machine can make the drive more enjoyable.

So hats off to Aston for continuing to offer the option of a stick and 3 pedals - I’m a big fan

Agree 100%. factor in 90% of these will likely never see a circuit, the quest for knocking a few seconds of a lap time is largely immaterial.

Having things to do, to connect to the car is what real driving is about.

Im pretty sure the car would also steer better than the soft fleshy thing behind the wheel with the help of some servo assists, computers and GPS

[Water Fairy]

I can't get on with those headlights

[Arsecati]

XJR500bhp said:

That’s cause you’re a poof

Welcome to the 20th Century.