OpenReach indirectly dinged my car - thoughts?
Discussion
mrbarnett said:
As an employee, if I instruct somebody to do something that has a negative consequence, surely my employer is liable?
Put another way, if an electrician advised you to touch a wire, and the wire turned out to be live and gave a shock, would the electrician not be liable? What if that person died?
It's more like saying touch that wirePut another way, if an electrician advised you to touch a wire, and the wire turned out to be live and gave a shock, would the electrician not be liable? What if that person died?
And you touch a wire to on the other side that is live
Is it still your fault?
BT didn't advise his wife to damage the car
mrbarnett said:
Not really sure where I stand on this one. My partner is working from home today and noticed workmen and traffic lights going up outside our house. Turns out BT OpenReach are digging up the road and pavement outside our house - it's the first we've heard of it.
My car is parked on my drive, but it's a short drive so its nose was pretty close to all the machinery digging up the pavement. A workman asks my partner to move the car in case it gets damaged. I think he was probably trying to be helpful, but the drive is tight, and the road complex with its sudden traffic light control. My partner doesn't really drive my car and hasn't ever manoeuvred it and in trying to get it out has dinged the bumper.
Now, obviously she has damaged the car, but she only damaged the car under the advice of a representative of BT OpenReach. They asked her to do something, with the suggestion that the car will get damaged if she doesn't comply, that has lead to the car getting damaged.
Had BT OpenReach made any attempt to contact us and explain their plans, I would have found somewhere else to store the car for the week and it would not be damaged, but they made no such efforts. Had they not chosen to dig up the road and ask for the car to be moved, it would not be damaged. Do you think I have a case to claim back the costs of repair?
You really are having a Laugh aren't you!My car is parked on my drive, but it's a short drive so its nose was pretty close to all the machinery digging up the pavement. A workman asks my partner to move the car in case it gets damaged. I think he was probably trying to be helpful, but the drive is tight, and the road complex with its sudden traffic light control. My partner doesn't really drive my car and hasn't ever manoeuvred it and in trying to get it out has dinged the bumper.
Now, obviously she has damaged the car, but she only damaged the car under the advice of a representative of BT OpenReach. They asked her to do something, with the suggestion that the car will get damaged if she doesn't comply, that has lead to the car getting damaged.
Had BT OpenReach made any attempt to contact us and explain their plans, I would have found somewhere else to store the car for the week and it would not be damaged, but they made no such efforts. Had they not chosen to dig up the road and ask for the car to be moved, it would not be damaged. Do you think I have a case to claim back the costs of repair?
Get your wife to learn how to drive.
and the cheek of a National company starting work without your permission.
think yourself lucky they bothered to ask.
by chance were you born after the Yr 2000 ?
Chris32345 said:
mrbarnett said:
As an employee, if I instruct somebody to do something that has a negative consequence, surely my employer is liable?
Put another way, if an electrician advised you to touch a wire, and the wire turned out to be live and gave a shock, would the electrician not be liable? What if that person died?
It's more like saying touch that wirePut another way, if an electrician advised you to touch a wire, and the wire turned out to be live and gave a shock, would the electrician not be liable? What if that person died?
And you touch a wire to on the other side that is live
Is it still your fault?
BT didn't advise his wife to damage the car
Vaud said:
Did he "direct her" - i.e. use signals and instruction to get to move i.e. "bit more, left a bit, bit more, bit more, stop" etc
Or did he ask her if she would consider moving her car, which she then did under her own direction.
If it is the former that caused the incident then maybe you might have recourse.
If it is the latter then it is for your insurance, she drove into a static object under her own direction.
Or did he ask her if she would consider moving her car, which she then did under her own direction.
If it is the former that caused the incident then maybe you might have recourse.
If it is the latter then it is for your insurance, she drove into a static object under her own direction.
The school play round bullying mentality lives on.
OP had a bad day when his car got dinged. My Mrs never drives my cars, but I can image that warned my pride and joy might get damaged she would feel she had to move it. I would be pretty P8ssed off with it all too...
Frustrated, OP did post something a bit silly. He has been well mocked for it.
Do we need another 4 pages of minor changes by sparkling wits to same basic joke at his expense?
OP had a bad day when his car got dinged. My Mrs never drives my cars, but I can image that warned my pride and joy might get damaged she would feel she had to move it. I would be pretty P8ssed off with it all too...
Frustrated, OP did post something a bit silly. He has been well mocked for it.
Do we need another 4 pages of minor changes by sparkling wits to same basic joke at his expense?
OverSteery said:
The school play round bullying mentality lives on.
Do we need another 4 pages of minor changes by sparkling wits to same basic joke at his expense?
I think you'll find the answer is YES. I'l start.Do we need another 4 pages of minor changes by sparkling wits to same basic joke at his expense?
It wouldn't have happened if it was "British Telecom". Oh no, Not when Maureen Lipman was in charge. Good old beatie with that bird thing. Back then we'd have had a proper engineer. 20 stone, sat under a red and white tent, doing a proper 2 hours work each day, whilst drinking a gallon of tea and choking back on 60 woodbines.
Now we have this fancy lar de dar "open reach", with their engineers, some of whom look foreign and do 10 hour days. and they don't even leave a hole in the ground for a month.
Well that's why I'm voting for Lord Farage, to get this country out of the EU- because if it was a British engineer, with a British van, it wouldn't have happened.
and your good ladies British Rover mini would have been unmarked. Apart from the rust that fell out of it every time a door was opened or closed.
and the oil leaking from beneath it.
(mainly because the British made van would have broken down and the British engineer would have been on the sick or strike)
OverSteery said:
The school play round bullying mentality lives on.
OP had a bad day when his car got dinged. My Mrs never drives my cars, but I can image that warned my pride and joy might get damaged she would feel she had to move it. I would be pretty P8ssed off with it all too...
Frustrated, OP did post something a bit silly. He has been well mocked for it.
Do we need another 4 pages of minor changes by sparkling wits to same basic joke at his expense?
We do. I hadn’t realised life could be so exciting if you let women drive your car.OP had a bad day when his car got dinged. My Mrs never drives my cars, but I can image that warned my pride and joy might get damaged she would feel she had to move it. I would be pretty P8ssed off with it all too...
Frustrated, OP did post something a bit silly. He has been well mocked for it.
Do we need another 4 pages of minor changes by sparkling wits to same basic joke at his expense?
Speed Badger said:
A workman advised your Mrs to move her car in case it got damaged.... and she damaged it in moving it.
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'A state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result.'
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