RE: The £15k C63 AMG: Spotted
Discussion
Gavodicko said:
Wouldn’t go as far to say they’re reliable as in the last 12 months I’ve had to replace a cam adjuster and the cylinder head cover which cost over £2k so thank goodness for the extended warranty!!
They're getting on now so it's inevitable parts will start to fail.My wife ran a 2010 PPP car for about 2 years and other than the rear tyre (1 set lasted 4.5k miles), fuel (she averaged around 18mpg) and oil between servicing (1l per 1k) costs, the only bill was for an ABS/ ESP module which seem to be iffy across the range, for that generation. That was around £1200.
As was written above, it's just a C class with a huge, relatively lazy engine essentially.
Paul
Edited by KryptonKid09 on Thursday 16th May 07:41
I test drove a 13-plate PP Coupe last summer. It was a 'never meet your heroes' moment.
I find it hard to put my finger on why. Perhaps it's as other people have mentioned, it felt like a very ordinary car with a very big engine stuck in it. A bit of a one-trick pony?
It never felt like it wanted to be driven fast, didn't feel as quick as I expected when I did put my foot down, and the gearbox was completely out of synch with the engine's characteristics.
Tried a Competition Pack e92 straight after and it was on a completely different level in terms of driver appeal.
I find it hard to put my finger on why. Perhaps it's as other people have mentioned, it felt like a very ordinary car with a very big engine stuck in it. A bit of a one-trick pony?
It never felt like it wanted to be driven fast, didn't feel as quick as I expected when I did put my foot down, and the gearbox was completely out of synch with the engine's characteristics.
Tried a Competition Pack e92 straight after and it was on a completely different level in terms of driver appeal.
cerb4.5lee said:
Absolutely love these(especially the noise they make) 
and if Merc had offered it with a manual gearbox I'd have been in one in a shot. I went for a manual E92 M3 instead and it was a mistake. The power delivery in these is much more my cup of tea...rather than the very high rev/stingy torque of the V8 that is in the M3.
I didn't realise that you could get these now for this money.
I didn't realise you had an E92 and didn't get along particularly well with it.... and if Merc had offered it with a manual gearbox I'd have been in one in a shot. I went for a manual E92 M3 instead and it was a mistake. The power delivery in these is much more my cup of tea...rather than the very high rev/stingy torque of the V8 that is in the M3. I didn't realise that you could get these now for this money.
I'm a fan of these C63s and obviously owning a CLS63 am a fan of that V8!
I don't think 80k is much of a mileage to worry about and the rest of the car as said is normal C Class. The running costs won't be cheap as realistically 12-14mpg is likely plus proper servicing.
It's a bit like the classic Impreza, went through it's phase where people bought them cheap, ruined many and now they're rarer people appreciate a good one. I suspect the same will happen with these.
Personally I do prefer the E63 and CLS63, not as nimble as one of these I'm sure but don't quite have the same image.
I don't think 80k is much of a mileage to worry about and the rest of the car as said is normal C Class. The running costs won't be cheap as realistically 12-14mpg is likely plus proper servicing.
Gameface said:
Low priced C63's attract a certain sort of people these days.
Sadly this is the one thing that puts me off these cars most. Since they have dropped down in value, I have seen a number of people driving them around which gives them a certain image. This is the loudest and most lairy AMG of the time and now it's cheap, people that want a loud and shouty car love these. It's a bit like the classic Impreza, went through it's phase where people bought them cheap, ruined many and now they're rarer people appreciate a good one. I suspect the same will happen with these.
Personally I do prefer the E63 and CLS63, not as nimble as one of these I'm sure but don't quite have the same image.
I've had my C63 estate for over 3 years now (longest I've kept a car) and still absolutely love it.
Only items over general maintenance have been a weeping diff seal, leaking aircon pipe and corrosion to a brake line, all cheap to sort by a local specialist.
The front brake discs on the PP cars are expensive to replace and I know that is coming soon, but other than that it's fantastic. Just the right amount of practicality and silliness rolled into one!
Only items over general maintenance have been a weeping diff seal, leaking aircon pipe and corrosion to a brake line, all cheap to sort by a local specialist.
The front brake discs on the PP cars are expensive to replace and I know that is coming soon, but other than that it's fantastic. Just the right amount of practicality and silliness rolled into one!
These are brilliant cars. I had a 2011 (facelift) estate with PPP for seven years from new. Thought I would just keep if for the 3 years of the PCP life to get out of my system, but bought it at the of the contract. 70,000 miles of trouble free motoring. Only problem was two cracked alloys discovered when I bought new tyres, but that was more down to British roads. Averaged about 20 mpg, but insurance was not huge. Depreciation was not bad either. Bought it for £58K and sold it to a non franchised dealer for £21K seven years later. Best car I have ever owned until the E63S estate came along. My aim is to keep its replacement for at least 7 or 8 years. 
Alex_225 said:
I'm a fan of these C63s and obviously owning a CLS63 am a fan of that V8!
I don't think 80k is much of a mileage to worry about and the rest of the car as said is normal C Class. The running costs won't be cheap as realistically 12-14mpg is likely plus proper servicing.
It's a bit like the classic Impreza, went through it's phase where people bought them cheap, ruined many and now they're rarer people appreciate a good one. I suspect the same will happen with these.
Personally I do prefer the E63 and CLS63, not as nimble as one of these I'm sure but don't quite have the same image.
This is getting close to what I was alluding to, but even so, I think it doesn't cover the depth of the discussion enough.I don't think 80k is much of a mileage to worry about and the rest of the car as said is normal C Class. The running costs won't be cheap as realistically 12-14mpg is likely plus proper servicing.
Gameface said:
Low priced C63's attract a certain sort of people these days.
Sadly this is the one thing that puts me off these cars most. Since they have dropped down in value, I have seen a number of people driving them around which gives them a certain image. This is the loudest and most lairy AMG of the time and now it's cheap, people that want a loud and shouty car love these. It's a bit like the classic Impreza, went through it's phase where people bought them cheap, ruined many and now they're rarer people appreciate a good one. I suspect the same will happen with these.
Personally I do prefer the E63 and CLS63, not as nimble as one of these I'm sure but don't quite have the same image.
The sheer age of the car alone means that mechanical parts will inevitably break down. Add old parts, to a powerful engine, where large forces are being introduced, and you have a recipe for all manner of breakages. It is, as has been correctly pointed out, a very basic spec car, with a big engine. Once the engine goes, what are you left with? A s
tty C class in need of an engine, with close to 100,000 miles on it. It will be worthless.Adored mine. Sold last year to make way for a GLC that the Mrs would also like driving.
If you buy from a main dealer, they give you 2 years warranty, which is a must on a car like this, IMO. In my 2 year ownership, the rear main oil seal started to leak, which thankfully was covered by the warranty.
I absolutely adored the car, and miss it hugely. The cold start-up was something else, and the low rumble was addictive. I averaged 17mpg, and I didn't trash it really. Very small tank... managed about 200 miles between fills.
If you buy from a main dealer, they give you 2 years warranty, which is a must on a car like this, IMO. In my 2 year ownership, the rear main oil seal started to leak, which thankfully was covered by the warranty.
I absolutely adored the car, and miss it hugely. The cold start-up was something else, and the low rumble was addictive. I averaged 17mpg, and I didn't trash it really. Very small tank... managed about 200 miles between fills.
Luke. said:
Gameface said:
You posted it so I asked if you believed it.
Anyone looking to nick a C63 won't be bamboozled by removing a badge! It's still got 4 whacking great exhausts FFS.
And more pertinently in this case they've still got the big 6.3 AMG badges on the front wings!
Remove the rear badge for security reasons and leave the 2 wing badges on. Yeah right...
Ok. I can't say I really give a sh it either way.Anyone looking to nick a C63 won't be bamboozled by removing a badge! It's still got 4 whacking great exhausts FFS.
And more pertinently in this case they've still got the big 6.3 AMG badges on the front wings!
Remove the rear badge for security reasons and leave the 2 wing badges on. Yeah right...
big_rob_sydney said:
This is getting close to what I was alluding to, but even so, I think it doesn't cover the depth of the discussion enough.
The sheer age of the car alone means that mechanical parts will inevitably break down. Add old parts, to a powerful engine, where large forces are being introduced, and you have a recipe for all manner of breakages. It is, as has been correctly pointed out, a very basic spec car, with a big engine. Once the engine goes, what are you left with? A stty C class in need of an engine, with close to 100,000 miles on it. It will be worthless.
I suppose it depends on what parts will break down. I'm guessing at 100k it's probably not the engine that will be suffering. I do get what your'e saying though. The sheer age of the car alone means that mechanical parts will inevitably break down. Add old parts, to a powerful engine, where large forces are being introduced, and you have a recipe for all manner of breakages. It is, as has been correctly pointed out, a very basic spec car, with a big engine. Once the engine goes, what are you left with? A s
tty C class in need of an engine, with close to 100,000 miles on it. It will be worthless.There's an inherent risk buying any older car that was once a lot of money to begin with. It's the risk you take enjoying a car such as the C63 or anything of that ilk that you could be faced with a hefty bill.
That said, I paid a little over £20k for a 7 year old CLS63 with 17k on the clock. For the same money I could have bought a brand new Focus or Clio 200. I'll take the risk on the CLS haha.
Terminator X said:
£100k car though which is perhaps why
TX.
This is true, there's a fair gap between prices between the other 6.2 fitted models. I must admit the interior on the C Class of that era never felt very premium, perfectly decent but not special compared to the other Merc saloons of the time. I'm sure the C63 makes up for it with that engine and I think they look great. That said they're not completely unrefined. TX.
Owned a 2010 one for the past 4yrs and have to say it`s the best car I`ve owned! Coming a close 2nd place is my Cerbera, the 63 has similar raw power (with aids turned off) but is reliable too.
The noise, power and handling from my 533bhp version gives me the most smiles per gallon I`ve ever had on 4 wheels!
The noise, power and handling from my 533bhp version gives me the most smiles per gallon I`ve ever had on 4 wheels!
V8rumble said:
These are brilliant cars. I had a 2011 (facelift) estate with PPP for seven years from new. Thought I would just keep if for the 3 years of the PCP life to get out of my system, but bought it at the of the contract. 70,000 miles of trouble free motoring. Only problem was two cracked alloys discovered when I bought new tyres, but that was more down to British roads. Averaged about 20 mpg, but insurance was not huge. Depreciation was not bad either. Bought it for £58K and sold it to a non franchised dealer for £21K seven years later. Best car I have ever owned until the E63S estate came along. My aim is to keep its replacement for at least 7 or 8 years.
You and I both-Although I still have mine after 8 years. 47 thousand miles of great fun, mine has been superb and has barely cost me anything other than the £45 monthly service fee ( and a lot of tyres) The only temptation has been an E63s, but I’m mindful that will £60k plus my px which I am finding too difficult to justify!big_rob_sydney said:
Alex_225 said:
I'm a fan of these C63s and obviously owning a CLS63 am a fan of that V8!
I don't think 80k is much of a mileage to worry about and the rest of the car as said is normal C Class. The running costs won't be cheap as realistically 12-14mpg is likely plus proper servicing.
It's a bit like the classic Impreza, went through it's phase where people bought them cheap, ruined many and now they're rarer people appreciate a good one. I suspect the same will happen with these.
Personally I do prefer the E63 and CLS63, not as nimble as one of these I'm sure but don't quite have the same image.
This is getting close to what I was alluding to, but even so, I think it doesn't cover the depth of the discussion enough.I don't think 80k is much of a mileage to worry about and the rest of the car as said is normal C Class. The running costs won't be cheap as realistically 12-14mpg is likely plus proper servicing.
Gameface said:
Low priced C63's attract a certain sort of people these days.
Sadly this is the one thing that puts me off these cars most. Since they have dropped down in value, I have seen a number of people driving them around which gives them a certain image. This is the loudest and most lairy AMG of the time and now it's cheap, people that want a loud and shouty car love these. It's a bit like the classic Impreza, went through it's phase where people bought them cheap, ruined many and now they're rarer people appreciate a good one. I suspect the same will happen with these.
Personally I do prefer the E63 and CLS63, not as nimble as one of these I'm sure but don't quite have the same image.
The sheer age of the car alone means that mechanical parts will inevitably break down. Add old parts, to a powerful engine, where large forces are being introduced, and you have a recipe for all manner of breakages. It is, as has been correctly pointed out, a very basic spec car, with a big engine. Once the engine goes, what are you left with? A s
tty C class in need of an engine, with close to 100,000 miles on it. It will be worthless.Do C63 engines self destruct just before 100k then?
You really are talking rubbish lol.
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