RE: The £15k C63 AMG: Spotted

[big_rob_sydney]

ruprechtmonkeyboy said:

big_rob_sydney said:

Alex_225 said:

I'm a fan of these C63s and obviously owning a CLS63 am a fan of that V8!

I don't think 80k is much of a mileage to worry about and the rest of the car as said is normal C Class. The running costs won't be cheap as realistically 12-14mpg is likely plus proper servicing.

Gameface said:

Low priced C63's attract a certain sort of people these days.

Sadly this is the one thing that puts me off these cars most. Since they have dropped down in value, I have seen a number of people driving them around which gives them a certain image. This is the loudest and most lairy AMG of the time and now it's cheap, people that want a loud and shouty car love these.

It's a bit like the classic Impreza, went through it's phase where people bought them cheap, ruined many and now they're rarer people appreciate a good one. I suspect the same will happen with these.

Personally I do prefer the E63 and CLS63, not as nimble as one of these I'm sure but don't quite have the same image.

This is getting close to what I was alluding to, but even so, I think it doesn't cover the depth of the discussion enough.

The sheer age of the car alone means that mechanical parts will inevitably break down. Add old parts, to a powerful engine, where large forces are being introduced, and you have a recipe for all manner of breakages. It is, as has been correctly pointed out, a very basic spec car, with a big engine. Once the engine goes, what are you left with? A stty C class in need of an engine, with close to 100,000 miles on it. It will be worthless.

Once the engine goes?

Do C63 engines self destruct just before 100k then?

You really are talking rubbish lol.

Put your money where your mouth is then. Let us know when you've bought it.

[Deep Thought]

big_rob_sydney said:

Put your money where your mouth is then. Let us know when you've bought it.

I'd have no particular issue buying one of these. Certainly, i wouldnt rush to buy the first one i saw but i'd have little doubt a good one could be bought for this price or little more.

They are known to be quite robust, and like any AMG by the way, are a lot more than a standard car with a big engine in it as you seemed to be alluding to.

Granted, it may attract the odd unsavory type, but then what performance car doesnt? Certainly Subaru - who i know you are a big advocate of - have their fair share of knuckle draggers.

Even Porsches can be driven by ass-holes (as some threads on here are testament to)

Edited by Deep Thought on Thursday 16th May 19:44

Edited by Deep Thought on Thursday 16th May 19:45

[Mark83]

A lot of estate owners!

Facelift PPP estate owner checking in. There's a sense of theatre from turning the key to parking up. Main dealer servicing can get expensive, or pay £46 per month for a service plan to avoid service bills. I'm averaging 20mph. Swapped the 19in multi-spokes for two sets standard 18in wheels due to cracking. Recently fitted four Pilot Sport 4 tyres to the summer wheels after taking the winter wheels and tyres off, feels like it has been left off the leash. The car has just ticked over to 35,000 miles and *touches wood* has just needed consumables so far. VED costing more than my insurance is a bit rubbish though.

Edited by Mark83 on Friday 17th May 18:20

[Luke.]

Mark83 said:

. Main dealer servicing can get expensive, or pay £46 per month for a service plan to avoid service bills.

Really? That sounds too good to be true. A facelift 2015/6 is next on the list.

[BIRMA]

An excellent engine had it in the SL63, I was aware of the headbolt issue and my local independent told me he never came across any cars where it had caused a major problem.
I got this You Tube video from an AMG section of the Mercedes forum makes for interesting viewing.
https://youtu.be/Rlj7254gOww

[BangernomicsAndy]

Seems to be quite a bit of negativity towards this car ( I have nothing to do with it or the seller btw). Is it the cheapest for sale? If so then it’s not going to be perfect. The exhaust isn’t lined up quite right therefore it’s had a rear end smash? Or maybe the hanger rubber has sagged or its been removed and not quite lined up correctly afterwards, fairly heavy exhaust system after all. It’s not got a C63 badge on the boot.... maybe someone thought it would be fun to be a little incognito to the general public ( yes we know it’s got the quad exhaust and wing badges and that soundtrack).
Who knows, unless that is you go and inspect said vehicle in person...

[B17NNS]

KryptonKid09 said:

My wife ran a 2010 PPP car for about 2 years and other than the rear tyres (1 set lasted 4.5k miles)

I like cut of her jib

[cramorra]

Smokey32 said:

big_rob_sydney said:

What could possibly go wrong...

Not much really there reliable cars.

Head bolts to start with in a pre 2012 PP which at that price would almost be a write off
Performance pack break discs weigh in at almost 10% of the asking price of that beauty... so worth checking if they are well ( they last a lot longer than the normal discs though)
Otherwise it s well built
If it s an 08 car it will have the performance pack plus rather than performance pack which throws in a free mech lsd which is nice to have there are other things too worth checking (p30 in specs)
Problems with the ( now quite outdated) command screen can let it end up stuck not fully closed and drain the battery and it eats rear tires for breakfast
Should be in the brave pill for the driving experience alone especially in winter
I mostly miss mine for the sound especially on startup and the low speed rumble....
The spec of this looks nice most of them have black seats which is boring ( the leather isn’t as good as it looks and the side bolsters wear)

My main reason against buying one now is that too many drive them now with their head bolted on the wrong way ( or do Burberry caps not fit if the screen puts points to the front) who paint their callipers red to make them look like a PP

I loved mine in the four years I had it and all in all did not have roomy probs
I debadge all my cars at the back just like the smoother looks
Where I grew up more than 80 percent of Benzes, BMW and Audi’s are debadged only jsp cars have lots of letters at the back I was really surprised that in the UK most cars wear the full Lametta
Now proudly own possibly the only debadged Lexus GSF in the country

Edited by cramorra on Friday 17th May 08:21

Edited by cramorra on Friday 17th May 08:40

[Deep Thought]

Luke. said:

Mark83 said:

. Main dealer servicing can get expensive, or pay £46 per month for a service plan to avoid service bills.

Really? That sounds too good to be true. A facelift 2015/6 is next on the list.

That comes to £552 a year for servicing which sounds about right?

[Terzo123]

cramorra said:

Smokey32 said:

big_rob_sydney said:

What could possibly go wrong...

Not much really there reliable cars.

Head bolts to start with in a pre 2012 PP which at that price would almost be a write off

The head bolts were revised at the end of 2010. Anything after the following engine number will be fine. 156983 60 060658 .

Saying that, it doesn't appear to be as common an issue over here in the UK, compared to in the USA.

[turboteeth]

I love my E63 with the 5.5 bi-turbo yet I still dream of owning one of the original 6.2 C63's one day.
Just like the Subaru Impreza though, so many no seem to be getting into the "wrong" hands and there is something about this particular car that doesn't look quite right...

Maintenance wise no AMG is cheap to run. My old '54' plate E55 AMG cost me £12,500 in 2013. Absolute bargain considering it was highly optioned and £80k new....but I spent almost £7,000 keeping it in top condition over 3 years and 30,000 miles and only getting £6,500 back for it when I p/x'd for the E63.

[cramorra]

Terzo123 said:

The head bolts were revised at the end of 2010. Anything after the following engine number will be fine. 156983 60 060658 .

Saying that, it doesn't appear to be as common an issue over here in the UK, compared to in the USA.

You are right sorry my mistake it does happen and is expensive I think possibly people her service cars more and take out warrantees which help hence less publicity

[Mark83]

Deep Thought said:

That comes to £552 a year for servicing which sounds about right?

My next service is a B1 including spark plugs which comes in at £863 from my local dealership making the service plan good value if purchased at the right time and for the right duration. Can be transferred to the new owner if paid in full.

[Deep Thought]

Mark83 said:

Deep Thought said:

That comes to £552 a year for servicing which sounds about right?

My next service is a B1 including spark plugs which comes in at £863 from my local dealership making the service plan good value if purchased at the right time and for the right duration. Can be transferred to the new owner if paid in full.

How much was the A1 though?

Thats how they balance it out. I think our A45 was £35 a month, but that was based on one service being £300 or so and the next £500 or so.

Thats not to say its not good value, but i dont think it warranted a "Too good to be true" response from Luke?

Edited by Deep Thought on Friday 17th May 17:26

[Mark83]

Deep Thought said:

How much was the A1 though?

Thats how they balance it out. I think our A45 was £35 a month, but that was based on one service being £300 or so and the next £500 or so.

Thats not to say its not good value, but i dont think it warranted a "Too good to be true" response from Luke?

Edited by Deep Thought on Friday 17th May 17:26

If buying two services it's roughly even but spreads costs evenly. Best time to buy is a three year one to cover big, small and second big service.

[Whatsmyname]

Luke. said:

Gameface said:

KryptonKid09 said:

Looks like it's had a whack on the OSR, as the tail pipes aren't straight.

Yeah, also when a car is debadged at the rear like this one, it always makes me ask why?

To stop people trying to nick it?

The body shop probably still has them

[LexyLex]

Court_S said:

Yup, the noise these make really is something else, especially considering that it comes out of a fairly frumpy looking saloon.

I hadn't realised that they were getting this cheap either.

£15k for a 10yr old C class with a lot of miles on it isn't that cheap.

It has an amazing engine mind you and if it turns up to be a good one it will be a lot of fun.

A quick google reveals this head bolt issue is very serious and would essentially write the car off should it happen.

Edited by LexyLex on Saturday 18th May 11:23

[irish boy]

Mercedes Portadown charge £250 all in for a standard service on the c63.

[Deep Thought]

irish boy said:

Mercedes Portadown charge £250 all in for a standard service on the c63.

My local dealer! Although we've moved from an A45 to across the road to Prentices with an M140i.

Yes, thats why i didnt think the service pack appeared that cheap. It was in line with my expectations but not a too good to be true bargain.

[LexyLex]

WCZ said:

what a car for the money, would rather have one of these and £20k for fuel/tires etc than something like a golf gtd. plus you'll save another £15,000 in depreciation over 5 years too - if you did 80,000 miles @ 19mpg it'd cost you an extra £12k more 35mpg in the gtd. pays for itself

Kind of - my thought is a new Golf will have a warranty and won't go wrong. The potential for a very large bill with an older Mercedes is massive but if you are lucky and have a few grand aside just in case I totally agree it is the much more rewarding car. Although I would chose a Golf R - not a dirty noisy unpleasant diseasal.

Just googling these this afternoon wasn't for comfortable reading. Tyre life seems woefully short - I appreciate it's powerful but I suspect geometry has an awful lot to answer for as to why they wear so quickly. Handling wise I'd want to upgrade the springs and shocks - a car like this with 88k would need a bit of a spruce up anyway and I suspect the original items weren't the best. Set of coil overs - job done

I've yet to drive one - but I suspect it might be a bit of a one trick pony - great engine but an unremarkable car in many other ways. Although what an engine