Cost of fitting a new 1.2 Nissan Qashqai engine - £10,115.18

[Chrisborn85]

If it is on pcp why just not make the payments and let them repossess the motor.

[Terminator X]

Not had the car serviced for 3 years AND looking for a "gesture of goodwill" hmmm good luck!

TX.

[Mexman]

Chrisborn85 said:

If it is on pcp why just not make the payments and let them repossess the motor.

Really???
Because that would do your credit rating the world of good, wouldn't it?
And the finance company could still come after you for more if the car fails to meet the outstanding balance due to condition.

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

Surely having the original engine revuilt os the best option. Then the car has its original engine number and block. The PCP would be none the wiser and would not care.

They will care about the complete lack of service history though as this will make the residual a lot lower.

[ghost83]

Buy a second hand engine get a Haynes manual and do it yourself but replace all the gaskets etc etc

You can even hire an engine crane, can easily be done in a couple of hours

[Krikkit]

ghost83 said:

Buy a second hand engine get a Haynes manual and do it yourself but replace all the gaskets etc etc

You can even hire an engine crane, can easily be done in a couple of hours

Do you really think that even an experienced tech, with a workshop full of tools, could knock that out in "a couple of hours"? Dreamer.

[James_33]

Krikkit said:

Do you really think that even an experienced tech, with a workshop full of tools, could knock that out in "a couple of hours"? Dreamer.

Agreed.

[rallycross]

ghost83 said:

Buy a second hand engine get a Haynes manual and do it yourself but replace all the gaskets etc etc

You can even hire an engine crane, can easily be done in a couple of hours

Wow it’s only May but here we have a winner for this years most stupid post on PH.

[Drew106]

Late to this thread, just saw it referenced in another.

Speaking as someone who had a engine replaced in another car renowned for engine & oil issues - a Mk2 Fabia vRS - even with a full service history and low mileage it was a fight to get any goodwill towards the cost.

In fairness it was nearly a year out of warranty, so they probably had every right to refuse. My argument was given the car was only 4 year old, covered 35k miles and was serviced as per recommendations by Skoda, it seemed reasonable for it to last a little longer!

It took many emails & phone calls back and forth before a c.65% goodwill gesture was agreed. I had less money then, I'm not sure I'd be bothered with the fight now and probably would have folded earlier!

£10k is a hell of price! If I remember correctly the vRS engine was £7k, but cost me c.£2.5k after goodwill. I sold it soon after.

Obviously given your car wasn't serviced, it's hard to expect much. But it may be possible to get the cost down a bit. It all depends how much time/effort you're willing to put to it.

I'm firmly in the used market now! None of my cars are younger than 10 years. I can happily service them myself, modify them and accept any risk... and I don't have to deal with car sales men or dealers anymore!

[Tuvra]

Sorry I haven't updated this thread.

We got the Qashqai recovered to my mates garage, he had a look over it and stated straight away "no way that engine's seized". After he took it apart he was then adamant that a new Turbo is all it needed. I agreed to supply a new Turbo and oil feed pipe to see if his theory was correct. Few days later and the little Qashqai is running as sweet as a nut.

Cost of repair:-
£225 for a reconditioned Turbo
£80 for an oil feed pipe
£100 recovery (from main dealer to mates garage)
£530 labour.
Total cost £935.00

Pretty pissed off that the dealership tried to charge her £10k+ for a new engine and turbo

[Sheepshanks]

Please tell me they changed the oil and filter too!


Pity you can't have the dealer prosecuted for attempted deception.

[The Li-ion King]

Krikkit said:

ghost83 said:

Buy a second hand engine get a Haynes manual and do it yourself but replace all the gaskets etc etc

You can even hire an engine crane, can easily be done in a couple of hours

Do you really think that even an experienced tech, with a workshop full of tools, could knock that out in "a couple of hours"? Dreamer.

Not bad if you can only afford 2 hours' labour for an engine swap

[carinaman]

Tuvra said:

After he took it apart he was then adamant that a new Turbo is all it needed.

Thanks for the update. The bill included your mate taking off the cylinder head and taking a look?

[MJK 24]

carinaman said:

Tuvra said:

After he took it apart he was then adamant that a new Turbo is all it needed.

Thanks for the update. The bill included your mate taking off the cylinder head and taking a look?

You don’t need to take the head off to see if an engine is seized. Big bar on the crank pulley will soon tell you if it’ll turn over or it won’t.

[wack]

t400ble said:

Not servicing it will have been the killer.

You say that but a guy I used to work with had a petrol fiesta probably a 1998-2000 , he had it 8 years but never serviced it but did check the oil level , one day it started leaking because the oil filter had rusted through , even then all he did was fit a new one and top it up

2 years later the clutch went and he PX'd it

Edited by wack on Saturday 8th June 07:18

[Wildcat45]

Vaud said:

Vaud said:

Block Exemption Rules mean (I think) that you can have it repaired anywhere, providing it is to Nissan specs and using Nissan parts.

https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/service-repai...

I think the same applies under PCP, I am not sure ownership is specified in the legislation.

IANAL.

Ahh, I'm wrong.

"Many PCP agreements will insist that the car has to be serviced by an approved franchised workshop to maintain the guaranteed future value (GFV) if you want to give the car back at the end of the agreement, and if you have a lease then you will also be expected to service the car with a dealership."

I was surprised when I was responsible for a few lease cars that the leasing company didn't seem fussy about where cars were serviced. A national non franchised chain was their favourite. It bit them on the bum when one car broke and the chain couldn't fix it recommending it was taken to a dealer.

[gazza285]

carinaman said:

Thanks for the update. The bill included your mate taking off the cylinder head and taking a look?

Endoscopes are £30 if you want a look.

[Olivera]

Tuvra said:

Sorry I haven't updated this thread.

We got the Qashqai recovered to my mates garage, he had a look over it and stated straight away "no way that engine's seized". After he took it apart he was then adamant that a new Turbo is all it needed. I agreed to supply a new Turbo and oil feed pipe to see if his theory was correct. Few days later and the little Qashqai is running as sweet as a nut.

Cost of repair:-
£225 for a reconditioned Turbo
£80 for an oil feed pipe
£100 recovery (from main dealer to mates garage)
£530 labour.
Total cost £935.00

Pretty pissed off that the dealership tried to charge her £10k+ for a new engine and turbo

So you still haven't changed the oil and filter?

If it previously ran low on oil then it may have damaged bearings, rings etc - none of the above work will have rectified that damage.

[DanielSan]

Tuvra said:

Sorry I haven't updated this thread.

We got the Qashqai recovered to my mates garage, he had a look over it and stated straight away "no way that engine's seized". After he took it apart he was then adamant that a new Turbo is all it needed. I agreed to supply a new Turbo and oil feed pipe to see if his theory was correct. Few days later and the little Qashqai is running as sweet as a nut.

Cost of repair:-
£225 for a reconditioned Turbo
£80 for an oil feed pipe
£100 recovery (from main dealer to mates garage)
£530 labour.
Total cost £935.00

Pretty pissed off that the dealership tried to charge her £10k+ for a new engine and turbo

So still not serviced?

[mike9009]

It is quite amazing people's attitude to servicing and maintaining cars.

A relative (teacher) never services his cars. He waits until they go bang and then vows not to buy that brand again as they are unreliable. Cars destroyed in his ownership include an Audi A4, MGTF and a Honda Civic. (unfortunately I don't know what failed on each except the MGTF ). They 'usually' last about 5-6 years with this regime.

Another mate (engineering manager!!) never checks oil, tyre pressures and relies on the servicing/ MOT to catch everything.

When my in-laws come to stay, I usually check everything over for them (twice a year). They do get it serviced, but generally need something doing (generally cleaning the interior - yuk ) It is a one owner, 24 year old BMW though.


Mike