RE: 280hp Ford Focus ST Wagon revealed

RE: 280hp Ford Focus ST Wagon revealed

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Dale487

941 posts

64 months

Thursday 16th May
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I like this a lot, but this it would look better in metallic blue, and its sat along side the i30N Fastback (smaller boot but cheaper, before anyone says) on my next car short list - I wonder what VW & SEAT will do with the new Golf GTI & Cupra Leon due out in the not too distant future.

What is the sole spec equivalent to? ST-1, 2 or 3?


rustip

21 posts

106 months

Thursday 16th May
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F4R said:
Ticks all the boxes for me except the looks department. The styling is too fussy in my opinion, and just doesn't look sporty.

It actually reminds me of a Mazda 6 estate, but the Mazda is better looking...




And the Astra Estate, Volvo V40.


mstrbkr

6,961 posts

139 months

Thursday 16th May
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MagicalTrevor said:
The dealer I spoke to checked the price list and it has a tow bar prep option so he seemed to think it was possible.
Massive win in my book. To those that don't need tow bars they seem silly, but for those that need them it's a pain that so many cars are ruled out.

(my use is tow bar bike rack)

simonturner1974

1 posts

14 months

Thursday 16th May
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Love this, ticks all the boxes. Fast, great handling, contemporary looks, good dims inside & out and it's not £45k and german. Sold.

Craikeybaby

8,949 posts

166 months

Thursday 16th May
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Firmly on the shortlist for my next car!
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DBRacingGod

514 posts

133 months

Thursday 16th May
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280bhp is a low state of tune for that engine. Doesn't the Mustang return about 315? I think PH reviewed a Revo map of around 350. Does the ST have a smaller turbo or just a stingy map?

Hub

4,164 posts

139 months

Thursday 16th May
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DBRacingGod said:
280bhp is a low state of tune for that engine. Doesn't the Mustang return about 315? I think PH reviewed a Revo map of around 350. Does the ST have a smaller turbo or just a stingy map?
I'm not sure anyone has got their hands on one yet to play spot the difference. I guess the lower output is for optimum FWD driveability and economy figs.


Edited by Hub on Thursday 16th May 15:15

Arsecati

193 posts

58 months

Thursday 16th May
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Is Ford on a global quest to get us all to speak 'Murican by calling it a 'Wagon'? It's an Estate over here Mr. Ford....... we invented the language! wink

unsprung

2,710 posts

65 months

Thursday 16th May
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reasonably good looks

might be fun to have one in lime green with groovy 1970s livery about it wink


Lemming Train

2,647 posts

13 months

Thursday 16th May
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Looks decent from the back and the side profile is OK if not for those retarded bulges half way down the doors. Really don't like those. The front angle looks terrible and is no different from the 1.0 cooking spec model apart from the miniscule ST badge that you need a magnifying glass to see. I think I'll be sticking with its older brother the mk3 for a few more years yet as it's proven to be faultless in all the years I've had it and to be honest 250hp is more than sufficient power for our roads.

Lowtimer

4,021 posts

109 months

Thursday 16th May
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ED209 said:
I think it needs a 7-8k discount to make it reasonably priced.
Why? Who else is knocking out a new 280hp petrol estate for £23K?

tr7v8

5,983 posts

169 months

Thursday 16th May
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Lowtimer said:
ED209 said:
I think it needs a 7-8k discount to make it reasonably priced.
Why? Who else is knocking out a new 280hp petrol estate for £23K?
They were my thoughts when I read that comment as well.

usualdog

97 posts

104 months

Thursday 16th May
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This + £20k in the bank please!
nb I don't need to tow and I know that old cars are cheaper than new ones!

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...


Jon_S_Rally

297 posts

29 months

Thursday 16th May
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I like this, looks alright (though the colour doesn't do much for it. Will be interested to see the official towing weight. Was hoping for 1800kg, as that's what the Octavia will do. Bit more useful than the 1600kg.

Lemming Train said:
The front angle looks terrible and is no different from the 1.0 cooking spec model apart from the miniscule ST badge that you need a magnifying glass to see.
And the fact the front bumper is totally different to the base model car?

usualdog said:
This + £20k in the bank please!
nb I don't need to tow and I know that old cars are cheaper than new ones!

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
How much manufacturer warranty is left on that one out of interest? No? Thought not.

Lowtimer

4,021 posts

109 months

Thursday 16th May
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I have to say, while it is not a like for like new car comparison that orangey-yellow one does look like a decent buy though.

Theo-v9obh

4 posts

Thursday 16th May
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Calling it good value relative to the Cupra estate is misleading as the Seat is 4WD and much faster and ABT which is Seat approved does a chip to make it even faster. Furthermore the smart lines of the compact Focus have been blurred.

s m

17,365 posts

144 months

Thursday 16th May
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J4CKO said:
ED209 said:
I think it needs a 7-8k discount to make it reasonably priced.
Why would Ford sell it for 22/23k when everyone else charges nearer 30 grand for a comparable product ?

I guess it will get discounted to some level but 8k off is a bit of a stretch, maybe after a year and a few miles.
Seems reasonable value these days

I did do a double take this week when I saw the list price of a new 320d Sport saloon is over 38k....and their test car was optioned up to well over 45k!!


SD_1

6,866 posts

99 months

Thursday 16th May
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I like that a lot, good to see a fast estate with a manual gearbox too. Its such a shame VW made the Golf R estate automatic only.

Styling is a bit fussy, but it may well look better in the flesh.

Fastdruid

5,843 posts

93 months

Thursday 16th May
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Mogsmex said:
excellent cars, and finally being able to put a towbar on one means I'll be in the queue again beer
mstrbkr said:
MagicalTrevor said:
The dealer I spoke to checked the price list and it has a tow bar prep option so he seemed to think it was possible.
Massive win in my book. To those that don't need tow bars they seem silly, but for those that need them it's a pain that so many cars are ruled out.

(my use is tow bar bike rack)
+1

My *main* use is the tow bar bike rack


but also the bike trailer.


(the 6MPS also can't tow btw)

I've been struggling with what to replace the Mondeo 2.5T Estate with for some time now, the previous Focus 2.0T both couldn't tow and the 2.0T wasn't a patch on the older 5-cylinder Focus ST/Mondeo 2.5T. The new Mondeo is auto only and not meant to be as good to drive.

Ok, so the Focus will be a smaller boot but tbh now the kids are a bit bigger the amount of room and stuff they need has gone down and can always buy a top box if it's a problem for the rare occasion if we go camping or similar (maybe a year at most!)

wc98

8,440 posts

81 months

Thursday 16th May
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usualdog said:
This + £20k in the bank please!
nb I don't need to tow and I know that old cars are cheaper than new ones!

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
i really like the look of the new one, but that car in the advert is lovely and great value.