Pics of your Fast Estate...

Pics of your Fast Estate...

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bolidemichael

13,866 posts

201 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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trails said:
russy01 said:

It’s a fast estate on a twisty road, so still qualifies for me. The thread title doesn’t state where and how it needs to be fast wink

PH, bringing pendants together since ‘98 beer
I interpreted the response as in it wasn't an estate. As with the Taycan hatchback and Range Rovers, it probably isn't the choice of someone wanting to lug stuff around, on occassion.

trails

3,717 posts

149 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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bolidemichael said:

I interpreted the response as in it wasn't an estate. As with the Taycan hatchback and Range Rovers, it probably isn't the choice of someone wanting to lug stuff around, on occassion.
A bit of both really…I’m not sure the crazy stuff like the E63S is really a fast estate either, it’s more a ludicrously fast estate, maybe it (and it’s ilk) need a new class, hyper wagon (?!) and their own thread biglaugh

bolidemichael

13,866 posts

201 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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trails said:
bolidemichael said:

I interpreted the response as in it wasn't an estate. As with the Taycan hatchback and Range Rovers, it probably isn't the choice of someone wanting to lug stuff around, on occassion.

A bit of both really…I’m not sure the crazy stuff like the E63S is really a fast estate either, it’s more a ludicrously fast estate, maybe it (and it’s ilk) need a new class, hyper wagon (?!) and their own thread biglaugh
Okay, you need to leave the room now laugh

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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bolidemichael said:

Okay, you need to leave the room now laugh
All the E63 and RS6 back slapping has stalled the thread somewhat...

McGee_22

6,719 posts

179 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Fast changes with time - back in the day an RS2 and M5 Touring with 315bhp and 340bhp were fast - these days I suspect most mild turbo-diesels will outpace the M5 with some ease and keep up with the RS2; the RS2 and original M5 and would not see which way a new RS6, E63S or Alpina Touring went.

The fact is that amongst their peers, the M5 Touring and RS2 were rapid - does the mini qualify as fast amongst its peers?

bolidemichael

13,866 posts

201 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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McGee_22 said:
Fast changes with time - back in the day an RS2 and M5 Touring with 315bhp and 340bhp were fast - these days I suspect most mild turbo-diesels will outpace the M5 with some ease and keep up with the RS2; the RS2 and original M5 and would not see which way a new RS6, E63S or Alpina Touring went.

The fact is that amongst their peers, the M5 Touring and RS2 were rapid - does the mini qualify as fast amongst its peers?
This is the nub of the attraction to fast estates for me, with the caveat that an estate needs to be purpose-driven in spirit which arguably neither the Mini nor Taycan hatchback possess.

trails

3,717 posts

149 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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bolidemichael said:

Okay, you need to leave the room now laugh
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trails

3,717 posts

149 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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bolidemichael said:

This is the nub of the attraction to fast estates for me, with the caveat that an estate needs to be purpose-driven in spirit which arguably neither the Mini nor Taycan hatchback possess.
yes

I love the look of the Tycan, but it (and the Clubman) are form over function for me.

Marcus-7tcc2

191 posts

97 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Marcus-7tcc2 said:
bolidemichael said:
In relation to the size of the fuel tank, I wonder whether a 'touring capacity' can be specified or whether they aim for a rough target of tank range to remain within the expectations of their customers.

Nope afraid not-no option for a bigger tank. Over here in UK we also don't have the options that are available in the US market like heated steering wheel, ventilated and massaging seats plus some very nice backlit tweeters that rotate out of the front door speaker. No idea why-they're options on the M5 for sure.
Ok I'm going to correct myself as I was wrong! (How's that for PH gassing....someone admitting a mistake :-) ) Seems that from 2019 you can get an 80L tank and having checked my spec mine thankfully has one so that's a relief. It's just very thirsty....

macajc88

112 posts

161 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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trails said:
bolidemichael said:

This is the nub of the attraction to fast estates for me, with the caveat that an estate needs to be purpose-driven in spirit which arguably neither the Mini nor Taycan hatchback possess.

yes

I love the look of the Tycan, but it (and the Clubman) are form over function for me.
V5C says it's an estate so I'm taking that wink .. and it swallowed several bags of garden waste the other week which I doubt either of my previous hatchbacks (Focus, Golf) would have managed.

It's a 2018 Cooper S 2.0L 190HP so brisk rather than fast, but still passed the Auto Trader sub-8s to 60 filter and feels quick enough on the road. I'll get round to a readers cars thread eventually.

McGee_22

6,719 posts

179 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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macajc88 said:

V5C says it's an estate so I'm taking that wink .. and it swallowed several bags of garden waste the other week which I doubt either of my previous hatchbacks (Focus, Golf) would have managed.

It's a 2018 Cooper S 2.0L 190HP so brisk rather than fast, but still passed the Auto Trader sub-8s to 60 filter and feels quick enough on the road. I'll get round to a readers cars thread eventually.
A nearly 30 year BMW 530i Touring weighs the same as your 2018 Mini estate, does a similar 0-60 and that wasn't classed as a fast estate back when it was new.



Leins

9,468 posts

148 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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McGee_22 said:
Fast changes with time - back in the day an RS2 and M5 Touring with 315bhp and 340bhp were fast - these days I suspect most mild turbo-diesels will outpace the M5 with some ease and keep up with the RS2; the RS2 and original M5 and would not see which way a new RS6, E63S or Alpina Touring went.

The fact is that amongst their peers, the M5 Touring and RS2 were rapid - does the mini qualify as fast amongst its peers?

This 100%, and I use pretty much the same rule when it comes to super saloons. Put it this way, if an estate can keep pace with a contemporary 911, then to me it’s a fast estate. It doesn’t matter if it would get destroyed these days by the likes of an A45

sxmwht

1,562 posts

59 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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McGee_22 said:

A nearly 30 year BMW 530i Touring weighs the same as your 2018 Mini estate, does a similar 0-60 and that wasn't classed as a fast estate back when it was new.


Mate, someone posted an ST-line focus a few pages ago. Leave off a bit, hey? Go outside maybe

MightyBadger

1,981 posts

50 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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macajc88 said:
Does my new (to me) moderately warm mini estate qualify?



Yes, its an estate and faster than some posted in this thread.

JAMSXR

1,481 posts

47 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Less talking more estates please.


MightyBadger

1,981 posts

50 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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trails said:

yes

I love the look of the Tycan, but it (and the Clubman) are form over function for me.
The Clubman (old and new) offers more space over the regular hatch, how is that form over function?

Marcus-7tcc2

191 posts

97 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Now we're talking! I've already raved about my new E63S but heres the car it replaced:


Still for sale down in Cornwall in case anyone wants a unicorn C7 RS6 and amongst the lowest miles in the UK?
https://www.castlemotors.com/used-audi-a6-liskeard...
This is one pampered and cared for motor and it is genuinely like new-the underside still has original stickers on them. Needs to go to a good home!

RoVoFob

1,341 posts

158 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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By my count, this is only the second Passat R36 estate on the thread, which I picked up a week ago.

Since mine is in invisible silver, I’m tempted to make it as ‘Q’ as possible. Removing the front and rear R36 badges would be simple, as could fitting a set of standard Passat wheels. Would it still be obvious then that it’s not a 1.6 TDI…probably!

Readers Cars thread here: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by RoVoFob on Thursday 19th May 19:04

Harleyboy

621 posts

159 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Benmac said:
Knutsford?
It was, was passing through

mrdanbartlett

702 posts

217 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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2 comments:

1- How on earth does that RS6 only have 3,600 miles, wow!

2- That passat - has it had any paint work, is it me or does the rear passenger door like a different shade? Speaking of which is silver one of the colours that just looks like that?