RE: Megane Trophy-R unveiled with record 'ring time

RE: Megane Trophy-R unveiled with record 'ring time

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GroundEffect

13,844 posts

157 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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WCZ said:
Miserablegit said:
130kg saving is superb- even discounting 20kg if they are carbon wheels.

Well done.

This is what "lightweight" should mean rather than no radio and a fabric door pull.........
yes, porsche take note

-aircon -pcm and adding door pulls is not a lightweight special edition, regardless of how you market it.

the -130kg is with a roll cage too from what I've read elsewhere
article said:
Right now, Renault hasn't specified precise details on the hardware changes or what the weight loss entails, but we expect it to be roughly the same recipe as the previous Trophy R, so options for no air con, no radio, lithium ion battery - you get the gist. However, with it clearly retaining it's rear doors, will it keep it's rear seats? If so, we'll be waiting with bated breath to see how they managed it. And with the public debut just 3 days away, luckily we won't have to wait long!
Erm...it looks like the AC system was removed, along with other stuff.


IanJ9375

1,468 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Samsz42 said:
Truly impressive company around the 7 min 40 mark. What amazes me is that the Alfa Romeo Gulia is even quicker !!!
Yes the Alfa ( a pre production one with 100kg removed) is just about quicker (a regular production won't be)

rb_89

113 posts

71 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Lap times like this are funny things when you think about it. Strip out everything that makes the car a useful day-to-day prospect (aircon, rear seats - probably removed to save that many kg) to save a few seconds over 20km of hard driving! Still I guess that's the point, maximum weight reduction for the best possible time, ideal for a track car I guess! Wouldn't be my cup of tea for a daily though...

Still, a very impressive time, well done Renault.

Norbury90

6,897 posts

207 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Oh yes. Do like. Good on ya Renault, hope it's a success.

Andy665

3,633 posts

229 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Apart from bar bragging rights what purpose does a Ring lap time actually provide

Whilst I can see merit in comparing times with lesser versions of the same model, could anyone feel the difference on the road between a Megane Trophy-R and Civic Type R - I doubt it

simonh9

209 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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The 306 video last week looked a lot more fun tbh!

Itsallicanafford

2,772 posts

160 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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^ lap time are hilarious really, it’s like strapping on usian bolts running shoes and expecting to run a sub 10 second 100m.

nunpuncher

3,385 posts

126 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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They actually lost 150kg off the standard car






















Then added 20kg of gaudy stickers

Alex

9,975 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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What "fancy Bridgestones"? This could make a massive difference. Although to be fair the Type R record was set using "track-focused, but road-legal tyre."

FerdiZ28

1,355 posts

135 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Great achievement and an illustration of what is currently possible in the war against physics.

Gopping looking, though.

VTECMatt

1,174 posts

239 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Not that impressive, unsure how much faster Ring is this year but it is quicker, stickier tyres, no doubt stick a track focused suspension, stickier tyres and shed 100 kilo the Civic would be quicker, not that I'm the slightest bit bothered biggrinbiggrin

Alex_225

6,264 posts

202 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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It's funny how I used to get ribbed for owning a RenaultSport Clio back in 2003 and yet on here, it's nice to see people pleased to see another RS Megane at the top of the hot hatch list.

There's been some hugely impressive hot hatches in the last few years so Renault have had to up their game, good to see that they've nailed it though! I actually really like the looks of the new Megane, glad to see they have honed it's abilities.

Love that bonnet scoop too!

moonigan

2,144 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Not sure I could cope with having back doors and no rear seats. It just about justifiable on a 3 door "because racecar" like the previous versions or the golf or mini but imagine some poor unsuspecting person opening the rear door and then cracking their head on the scaffolding that is now where the seats used to be. If they manage to put in some uber lightweight ones like the CSL then that would be perfect and give customers the option. Scaffolding or seats.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Wow thats quick.

Thankfully we havent had to many miserable comments on here so far.

"Whats the point"

Who cares why.

Drive Blind

5,097 posts

178 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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whilst it might not mean much in the real world I'm glad some manufacturers are still doing stuff like this.


Robmarriott

2,641 posts

159 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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I'm pretty certain there's no roll cage, if you look at the driver facing camera in the video there's nothing there and there doesn't appear to be anything in any of the (limited) press shots so far.

I'd imagine there's just a bolt in harness bar between the rear inner arches so I don't think anyone would accidentally bash their head on anything.

They won't have anywhere to sit and that'll be even harder to explain to people when there's doors but no seats than if there was doors and a roll cage.

DanielSan

18,806 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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According to one article it has ceramic brakes also, I'm guessing the ring record spec car isn't going to be much less than £50k if it has carbon wheels and ceramics! Or they're selling a few hundred at loss?

kultsch88

123 posts

167 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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What people forget is that the chassis tuning for the Trophy models filter down to the next hop models that come after it, so whilst the Trophy-R won't massively appeal to me due to high costs, its successors will. This is one reason they always produce cracking cars towards the end of the lifecycle

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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fellows4 said:
BathyThermo said:
So...

They didn't add power?
The car is more powerful because it has less weight. The engine itself is unchanged. :-)
So we all now agree that they didnt add power, good lets move on.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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fellows4 said:
BathyThermo said:
So...

They didn't add power?
The car is more powerful because it has less weight. The engine itself is unchanged. :-)
Nah