RE: Audi S6: Driven
Discussion
That front grill is gopping! The bloody thing just keeps growing.
Don't Audi and other car makers realise that they can SET standards rather than just follow them blindly? Just because Chinese and American customers want a giant front grill to compensate for other failings does not mean the car designers HAVE to provide it...
Don't Audi and other car makers realise that they can SET standards rather than just follow them blindly? Just because Chinese and American customers want a giant front grill to compensate for other failings does not mean the car designers HAVE to provide it...
The best thing about that is the shade of blue that particular car is wearing, lovely in sunlight! The rest is standard German barge soon to be seen approx. 2 inches from your bumper at any speed you care to drive.
It’s been said a lot but the German manufactures design language is getting more and more alike on regular hatches and saloons, from the rear that looks very similar to the new 3series I just passed on the way home, that I mistook for a new 5 series by the shear size of it. Suppose that is due to improved saftey and we should be thankful of that but others seem to keep a strong identity in design with these regs. Maybe I’m just getting old and grumpy but I’d be buying a new Volvo all day long if was in the market for a big family barge for a vast sum of money these cars cost
It’s been said a lot but the German manufactures design language is getting more and more alike on regular hatches and saloons, from the rear that looks very similar to the new 3series I just passed on the way home, that I mistook for a new 5 series by the shear size of it. Suppose that is due to improved saftey and we should be thankful of that but others seem to keep a strong identity in design with these regs. Maybe I’m just getting old and grumpy but I’d be buying a new Volvo all day long if was in the market for a big family barge for a vast sum of money these cars cost
Shiv_P said:
I think it's a shame the S6/S7 are derv but clearly this new engine is good... AND I only ever see 1 S6 regularly compared to numerous RS6/7 so clearly something needed to be changed to get them to sell better. No great loss IMO
Exactly. How many people moaning about the swap to diesel would have bought the petrol one?E65Ross said:
Pretty sure S models have different suspension to the normal models, maybe different gearbox maps, different interior bits, wheels, maybe brakes as well....much more than just the engine.
Having had an S5 for 2 years and being lent an A5 2.0TDI S line there is definitely different suspension. The S line rides worse on 18s than the S5 did on 19s! And yes the brakes, seats, VC options on the S5 were different toosilentbrown said:
That certainly didn't work for the 4.0 petrol version. This should sell better than the old car, simply because the 320hp BiTDI (which in reality this replaces) sold better than the S6.
However given that 12-month old ones of those are offered for about £30-32K, it's going to need serious discounting to shift.
The outgoing S6 always had loads of money off it and also depreciated badly. It's biggest problems in my opinion were the BiTDI, RS4 and the RS6.However given that 12-month old ones of those are offered for about £30-32K, it's going to need serious discounting to shift.
Shambler said:
Its a handsome car the new A6, I have been impressed with my current S4 and I think the change to diesel might be an interesting one. I think this new engine in the S4 might suit it better than the V6 turbo petrol of the previous model. But then again I would appear to be different from most of the PistonHeads members as I can enjoy a car whether it be diesel or petrol, 2,3,4,5,6 or more cylinders and front, rear or four wheel drive.
I am sure this thread will soon be filled with comments about how dreadful Audi’s are and how a petrol rear wheel drive car with a tricky rear end would make a much better buy. As always these posters seem to take great offence when a manufacturer produces a car fit for a purpose rather than make something that is tailored for their exact driving god needs and would sell in handfuls.
Thumbs up from me!I am sure this thread will soon be filled with comments about how dreadful Audi’s are and how a petrol rear wheel drive car with a tricky rear end would make a much better buy. As always these posters seem to take great offence when a manufacturer produces a car fit for a purpose rather than make something that is tailored for their exact driving god needs and would sell in handfuls.
If it was me, I would actually debadge it - literally just disregard the fact that it is badged an 'S', and would just think of it as the long-awaited replacement for the BiTDi (in Avant form naturally). The only problem then is those unforgiveably horrendous fake exhaust tips, but I would HOPE that some after-market bodykit manufacturer could offer a nice subtle 'delete' or blanking plate to replace it: either that or a hacksaw - then voila - ultimate Q-Car. To the outside, just another boggo diesel A6 Avant with an S-Line kit, but underneath - a 400bhp battleship Estate car (as it should already go without saying, that the first thing to do with this car is a quick trip to Angel/Celtic/Darkside for a wee remap!!) 
Thing is, the BiTDI was rapid AND efficient.
This seems to pretty much follow the same kind of formula, so I get the appeal. I do wonder what will happen in the future to values of diesel cars though, so maybe the uptake wont be quite as strong. It's not an out and out race car due to too many compromises, but I think for someone who wants a comfortable place to munch miles and then be able to accelerate quite strongly when the mood dictates, it's not a bad device.
I wouldn't buy one myself, because I prefer the quality of Lexus, but to each their own.
This seems to pretty much follow the same kind of formula, so I get the appeal. I do wonder what will happen in the future to values of diesel cars though, so maybe the uptake wont be quite as strong. It's not an out and out race car due to too many compromises, but I think for someone who wants a comfortable place to munch miles and then be able to accelerate quite strongly when the mood dictates, it's not a bad device.
I wouldn't buy one myself, because I prefer the quality of Lexus, but to each their own.
TurboHatchback said:
Maybe it's objectively better but nobody picks an S6 with their sensible hat on
This strikes to the heart of the matter for me.If you want economical why wouldn't you just buy an A6? If you want it to look tarty then get an A6 S-line/Black Edition?
What is the RS6 going to have, a 2 stroke?
More than likely supremely capable when you can't really be bothered. However, some of the best engines of all time required decent effort put in to get their best, including the 4.2 V8 presumably. I'm not sure why torque in gear is still an obsession, when you can downshift a petrol car and get it bang into its peak torque and power range.
900T-R said:
Harry H said:
And you're going to notice 15KG's in a two tonne car ?
I might hope anything on an A4/5 platform isn't *that* heavy? :shock:The S7 coupe (not A4/5 platform) is over 2 tonnes, and apparently 65kg heavier than the saloon!
RSchneider said:
Diesel in a luxury sedan - simply no. Big diesels have their place in SUVs and trucks. Small diesels in medium sized "my life didn't work out as planned" lease vehicles. Others - simply no.
And Audis leave me cold ever more.
Whilst I don't like the idea of diesel in a luxury saloon, they outsell petrol luxury saloons by some significant margin. How often do you see a petrol A8/S class/7 series compared t diesel?And Audis leave me cold ever more.
RSchneider said:
Diesel in a luxury sedan - simply no. Big diesels have their place in SUVs and trucks. Small diesels in medium sized "my life didn't work out as planned" lease vehicles. Others - simply no.
And Audis leave me cold ever more.
Diesels do belong in luxury sedans. Try a modern 3.0TDI audi engine, they are pretty damn good for refinement - certainly better than a 4 banger petrol once warm. And Audis leave me cold ever more.
Barge owners aren't usually interested in outright power, they want range. Range is achieved by diesel. Rich people don't want to be with commoners at the fuel station. Range allows less time at the fuel station
As for the A6, it seems to be the best mid size saloon on sale
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