RE: Audi S6: Driven

[Michaelbailey]

Shuthan_S5 said:

I don't think I have seen any S6's on the road but I have seen plenty of RS6's so you are right there but I was more going to the S3, S4 and S5 with my comment.

I suspect this is the exact reason for the move in the first place. I think it was inevitable the death of S6/7. I just didn't think they would rebrand a "quick" diesel as an S.

[B17NNS]

Nerdherder said:

A shame really that ruffled leather is not a thing anymore.

Who doesn't love a ruch

Handsome car. Interior will no doubt be the best in class. It's fine to move with the times and ditch the V8 for a V6 turbo but an S6 (or any of the S models for that matter) should be a creamy smooth petrol. Not a clattery and lets be fair pretty thirsty diesel.

[Terminator X]

BathyThermo said:

Terminator X said:

FFS the SQ5 and 7 are

TX.

No, they're not. Have you driven an SQ5 or SQ7?

Have you ever driven a tractor?

I have, and you know what they have in common? The square root of fk all

Yes and yes, you need to up your pedant game son as I said "essentially tractors" not literally tractors.

TX.

[anonymous-user]

Terminator X said:

Yes and yes, you need to up your pedant game son as I said "essentially tractors" not literally tractors.

TX.

So aside from using roughly the same type of fuel, what else makes them 'essentially tractors'?

I'll wait.

[Terminator X]

BathyThermo said:

Terminator X said:

Yes and yes, you need to up your pedant game son as I said "essentially tractors" not literally tractors.

TX.

So aside from using roughly the same type of fuel, what else makes them 'essentially tractors'?

I'll wait.

If it drives like a tractor and sounds like a tractor ... I'll wait.

TX.

[anonymous-user]

Terminator X said:

If it drives like a tractor and sounds like a tractor ... I'll wait.

TX.

Only, they sound nothing like tractors. And they drive nothing like tractors.

Most tractors have inline engines for packaging reasons, which don't sound like V6s, and seriously, have you ever driven a tractor?

You're making yourself look silly, you should probably stop now.

[Terminator X]

BathyThermo said:

Terminator X said:

If it drives like a tractor and sounds like a tractor ... I'll wait.

TX.

Only, they sound nothing like tractors. And they drive nothing like tractors.

Most tractors have inline engines for packaging reasons, which don't sound like V6s, and seriously, have you ever driven a tractor?

You're making yourself look silly, you should probably stop now.

The only silly one here is you, the SQ5 is not a performance car it is essentially a tractor to be used for pulling caravans etc. They are not bought for "performance".

TX.

[anonymous-user]

Terminator X said:

The only silly one here is you, the SQ5 is not a performance car it is essentially a tractor to be used for pulling caravans etc. They are not bought for "performance".

TX.

I don't recall saying it was a performance car.

It's certainly not a tractor though, nor does it bear any resemblance whatsoever to one, which is what we were talking about.

So I'll ask again, what makes you say it's 'essentially a tractor'?

Still waiting.

[E65Ross]

Terminator X said:

BathyThermo said:

Terminator X said:

If it drives like a tractor and sounds like a tractor ... I'll wait.

TX.

Only, they sound nothing like tractors. And they drive nothing like tractors.

Most tractors have inline engines for packaging reasons, which don't sound like V6s, and seriously, have you ever driven a tractor?

You're making yourself look silly, you should probably stop now.

The only silly one here is you, the SQ5 is not a performance car it is essentially a tractor to be used for pulling caravans etc. They are not bought for "performance".

TX.

TX I'm assuming you're trolling. Either that, or you're just incredibly stupid.

[c6pete]

I don't understand Audi's thinking here putting in a V6 Diesel for the S6. You can get the A6 55 TFSI for much less, and that has a 2.9 V6 petrol, with a performance that isn't too dissimilar to the S6 (e.g. 0-60 of 5.3 for 55 TFSI vs. 5.0 for the S6....). Why pay a premium for the oil burner?!? Like others have pointed out, you don't even get 'proper' visible exhausts for the S6 to sweeten the deal....

[Shuthan_S5]

TX and Bathythermo,

Last time I checked, this was about the S6 so no idea why two people are debating on the SQ5 over the internet?

c6pete said:

I don't understand Audi's thinking here putting in a V6 Diesel for the S6. You can get the A6 55 TFSI for much less, and that has a 2.9 V6 petrol, with a performance that isn't too dissimilar to the S6 (e.g. 0-60 of 5.3 for 55 TFSI vs. 5.0 for the S6....). Why pay a premium for the oil burner?!? Like others have pointed out, you don't even get 'proper' visible exhausts for the S6 to sweeten the deal....

Think to many, the S badge on the bootlid will sell itself.

[thelostboy]

I had an RS6 Performance and was really impressed with it. People bemoan Audi for not making drivers cars, but in the real world it's point to point pace that impresses and I thought the RS6 was wonderful - it shrugged off its size and the rear diff calmed removed any kind of understeer feel you would expect.

Given the new one will have a more rear biased set up, plus rear steer, I think the new RS6 will be a monster! I never quite got the S6, and it appears the market agrees. I do enjoy spotting one though!

[E65Ross]

c6pete said:

I don't understand Audi's thinking here putting in a V6 Diesel for the S6. You can get the A6 55 TFSI for much less, and that has a 2.9 V6 petrol, with a performance that isn't too dissimilar to the S6 (e.g. 0-60 of 5.3 for 55 TFSI vs. 5.0 for the S6....). Why pay a premium for the oil burner?!? Like others have pointed out, you don't even get 'proper' visible exhausts for the S6 to sweeten the deal....

Pretty sure S models have different suspension to the normal models, maybe different gearbox maps, different interior bits, wheels, maybe brakes as well....much more than just the engine.

[Shuthan_S5]

E65Ross said:

Pretty sure S models have different suspension to the normal models, maybe different gearbox maps, different interior bits, wheels, maybe brakes as well....much more than just the engine.

Also read somewhere the chassis is different too.

[E65Ross]

Shuthan_S5 said:

E65Ross said:

Pretty sure S models have different suspension to the normal models, maybe different gearbox maps, different interior bits, wheels, maybe brakes as well....much more than just the engine.

Also read somewhere the chassis is different too.

You mean it's not just the same car with a different engine!? Well I never!

[gregpot2000]

Vocht said:

The shift to diesel doesn't concern me, it's more the actual figures this produces. The MPG simply isn't good enough for a diesel or for the performance on tap. The 640d was producing similar figures to this 8 years ago but also got 50mpg.

If I was in the market for this car I'd wait for the new 8 series GC which gets more MPG and hit's peak torque quicker (502lb ft at 1750-2250rpm), is lighter and faster.

You cannot compare the two....8 years ago would have been with the old testing system, this is now tested using WLP which is designed to be much more realistic and closer to real life

[MattS5]

BathyThermo said:

The SQ5 has been diesel for 6 years, the SQ7 for 3. It was inevitable.

I think you'll find the SQ5 was a diesel at launch in the UK, then went to Petrol for 12-18 months, before reverting back to a diesel in the last 12 months.

[Scabutz]

E65Ross said:

c6pete said:

I don't understand Audi's thinking here putting in a V6 Diesel for the S6. You can get the A6 55 TFSI for much less, and that has a 2.9 V6 petrol, with a performance that isn't too dissimilar to the S6 (e.g. 0-60 of 5.3 for 55 TFSI vs. 5.0 for the S6....). Why pay a premium for the oil burner?!? Like others have pointed out, you don't even get 'proper' visible exhausts for the S6 to sweeten the deal....

Pretty sure S models have different suspension to the normal models, maybe different gearbox maps, different interior bits, wheels, maybe brakes as well....much more than just the engine.

Not sure about this version but I had the S6 V10. The RS6 had bigger body kit and oval exhausts, main difference was the DRC suspension on the RS. Brakes were bigger on the RS and were a lot more to replace. Weren't cheap in the S.

As for a diesel in the S6. Sacrilege.

[c6pete]

E65Ross said:

Shuthan_S5 said:

E65Ross said:

Pretty sure S models have different suspension to the normal models, maybe different gearbox maps, different interior bits, wheels, maybe brakes as well....much more than just the engine.

Also read somewhere the chassis is different too.

You mean it's not just the same car with a different engine!? Well I never!

That's fair, but looking at the options list, you can upgrade the V6 petrol version in most areas apart from chassis (if different) and gearbox. To be fair, that then takes you to the same price as an S6 (if it's £62k). Just saying that you can get nearly the same basic performance getting an A6 with a petrol engine?

[silentbrown]

Shuthan_S5 said:

Think to many, the S badge on the bootlid will sell itself.

That certainly didn't work for the 4.0 petrol version. This should sell better than the old car, simply because the 320hp BiTDI (which in reality this replaces) sold better than the S6.

However given that 12-month old ones of those are offered for about £30-32K, it's going to need serious discounting to shift.