RE: BMW announces 530hp M50i for X5 and X7
Discussion
Slow said:
These will be fun to buy in 15 years, until then a little out of my budget 
I am confused as to why people are hating on them though. If you don’t like it don’t buy it??
It’s not just this car, it’s this ridiculous pursuit of power that relies on technology to keep them on the road. I am confused as to why people are hating on them though. If you don’t like it don’t buy it??
Local BMW dealer (shoutout to Westerly Exeter!) dropped me an X7 to use overnight.
I've been looking for an SUV to take up to the north of sweden once a year, in pretty harsh snow/ice conditions, whilst carting 2 dogs (one enormous german shep and one wee little whippet) the entire 1500 miles or so (therefore extreme comfort/self driving tech is a must, as is MASSIVE rear space for the dogs to settle in for an entire days driving), to go see my girlfriends parents for a couple of weeks. Car needs to be able to handle rough terrain as will also be used out on trails, etc, up there. The rest of the year, it'll be used as a dog cart, family car, friend wagon, whatever.
I'll be honest, the X7 wasn't even on my list. Neither was the X5. The grills alone basically knocked them out of contention, at first.
My girlfriend forced me into the dealership where I was handed the keys to one overnight. Begrudgingly accepted.
It's utterly f
king fantastic. Honestly. What an excellent machine. It's so wonderfully comfortable whilst not being utterly floppy (hello FFRR..). Interior and infotainment is in another league to pretty much everything out there. Equipped to the gills with pretty much anything you could ever need or want (heated AND cooled cupholders anyone?). Feels well built. Cheaper than a Range Rover and better in, quite frankly, every metric.. Other than the size of the grill. But the car is so damn good I'm just going to order one in black, and black the grill out so it blends in more.
Sure it doesn't drive like a supercar (why the fk anyone would want stiffened suspension in one of these I cannot fathom), but it's not hopeless, dynamically. The lack of body roll took me by surprise. Of course you can feel absolutely nothing from the wheel. But the body roll bit was quite a nice surprise. I drove the 30d, and it had more than enough power. Still going to order the 50d because I'm a tt.
It's a great car when you want to forget you're "driving" and just need to get on with the business of being places.
I've been looking for an SUV to take up to the north of sweden once a year, in pretty harsh snow/ice conditions, whilst carting 2 dogs (one enormous german shep and one wee little whippet) the entire 1500 miles or so (therefore extreme comfort/self driving tech is a must, as is MASSIVE rear space for the dogs to settle in for an entire days driving), to go see my girlfriends parents for a couple of weeks. Car needs to be able to handle rough terrain as will also be used out on trails, etc, up there. The rest of the year, it'll be used as a dog cart, family car, friend wagon, whatever.
I'll be honest, the X7 wasn't even on my list. Neither was the X5. The grills alone basically knocked them out of contention, at first.
My girlfriend forced me into the dealership where I was handed the keys to one overnight. Begrudgingly accepted.
It's utterly f
king fantastic. Honestly. What an excellent machine. It's so wonderfully comfortable whilst not being utterly floppy (hello FFRR..). Interior and infotainment is in another league to pretty much everything out there. Equipped to the gills with pretty much anything you could ever need or want (heated AND cooled cupholders anyone?). Feels well built. Cheaper than a Range Rover and better in, quite frankly, every metric.. Other than the size of the grill. But the car is so damn good I'm just going to order one in black, and black the grill out so it blends in more.Sure it doesn't drive like a supercar (why the f
k anyone would want stiffened suspension in one of these I cannot fathom), but it's not hopeless, dynamically. The lack of body roll took me by surprise. Of course you can feel absolutely nothing from the wheel. But the body roll bit was quite a nice surprise. I drove the 30d, and it had more than enough power. Still going to order the 50d because I'm a tt.It's a great car when you want to forget you're "driving" and just need to get on with the business of being places.
CyCy said:
Local BMW dealer (shoutout to Westerly Exeter!) dropped me an X7 to use overnight.
I've been looking for an SUV to take up to the north of sweden once a year, in pretty harsh snow/ice conditions, whilst carting 2 dogs (one enormous german shep and one wee little whippet) the entire 1500 miles or so (therefore extreme comfort/self driving tech is a must, as is MASSIVE rear space for the dogs to settle in for an entire days driving), to go see my girlfriends parents for a couple of weeks. Car needs to be able to handle rough terrain as will also be used out on trails, etc, up there. The rest of the year, it'll be used as a dog cart, family car, friend wagon, whatever.
I'll be honest, the X7 wasn't even on my list. Neither was the X5. The grills alone basically knocked them out of contention, at first.
My girlfriend forced me into the dealership where I was handed the keys to one overnight. Begrudgingly accepted.
It's utterly fking fantastic. Honestly. What an excellent machine. It's so wonderfully comfortable whilst not being utterly floppy (hello FFRR..). Interior and infotainment is in another league to pretty much everything out there. Equipped to the gills with pretty much anything you could ever need or want (heated AND cooled cupholders anyone?). Feels well built. Cheaper than a Range Rover and better in, quite frankly, every metric.. Other than the size of the grill. But the car is so damn good I'm just going to order one in black, and black the grill out so it blends in more.
Sure it doesn't drive like a supercar (why the fk anyone would want stiffened suspension in one of these I cannot fathom), but it's not hopeless, dynamically. The lack of body roll took me by surprise. Of course you can feel absolutely nothing from the wheel. But the body roll bit was quite a nice surprise. I drove the 30d, and it had more than enough power. Still going to order the 50d because I'm a tt.
It's a great car when you want to forget you're "driving" and just need to get on with the business of being places.
So you've tried the car and liked it despite your initial reservations. Others on this thread may want to follow your open mindedness. I've been looking for an SUV to take up to the north of sweden once a year, in pretty harsh snow/ice conditions, whilst carting 2 dogs (one enormous german shep and one wee little whippet) the entire 1500 miles or so (therefore extreme comfort/self driving tech is a must, as is MASSIVE rear space for the dogs to settle in for an entire days driving), to go see my girlfriends parents for a couple of weeks. Car needs to be able to handle rough terrain as will also be used out on trails, etc, up there. The rest of the year, it'll be used as a dog cart, family car, friend wagon, whatever.
I'll be honest, the X7 wasn't even on my list. Neither was the X5. The grills alone basically knocked them out of contention, at first.
My girlfriend forced me into the dealership where I was handed the keys to one overnight. Begrudgingly accepted.
It's utterly f
king fantastic. Honestly. What an excellent machine. It's so wonderfully comfortable whilst not being utterly floppy (hello FFRR..). Interior and infotainment is in another league to pretty much everything out there. Equipped to the gills with pretty much anything you could ever need or want (heated AND cooled cupholders anyone?). Feels well built. Cheaper than a Range Rover and better in, quite frankly, every metric.. Other than the size of the grill. But the car is so damn good I'm just going to order one in black, and black the grill out so it blends in more.Sure it doesn't drive like a supercar (why the f
k anyone would want stiffened suspension in one of these I cannot fathom), but it's not hopeless, dynamically. The lack of body roll took me by surprise. Of course you can feel absolutely nothing from the wheel. But the body roll bit was quite a nice surprise. I drove the 30d, and it had more than enough power. Still going to order the 50d because I'm a tt.It's a great car when you want to forget you're "driving" and just need to get on with the business of being places.
CyCy said:
Local BMW dealer (shoutout to Westerly Exeter!) dropped me an X7 to use overnight.
I've been looking for an SUV to take up to the north of sweden once a year, in pretty harsh snow/ice conditions, whilst carting 2 dogs (one enormous german shep and one wee little whippet) the entire 1500 miles or so (therefore extreme comfort/self driving tech is a must, as is MASSIVE rear space for the dogs to settle in for an entire days driving), to go see my girlfriends parents for a couple of weeks. Car needs to be able to handle rough terrain as will also be used out on trails, etc, up there. The rest of the year, it'll be used as a dog cart, family car, friend wagon, whatever.
I'll be honest, the X7 wasn't even on my list. Neither was the X5. The grills alone basically knocked them out of contention, at first.
My girlfriend forced me into the dealership where I was handed the keys to one overnight. Begrudgingly accepted.
It's utterly fking fantastic. Honestly. What an excellent machine. It's so wonderfully comfortable whilst not being utterly floppy (hello FFRR..). Interior and infotainment is in another league to pretty much everything out there. Equipped to the gills with pretty much anything you could ever need or want (heated AND cooled cupholders anyone?). Feels well built. Cheaper than a Range Rover and better in, quite frankly, every metric.. Other than the size of the grill. But the car is so damn good I'm just going to order one in black, and black the grill out so it blends in more.
Sure it doesn't drive like a supercar (why the fk anyone would want stiffened suspension in one of these I cannot fathom), but it's not hopeless, dynamically. The lack of body roll took me by surprise. Of course you can feel absolutely nothing from the wheel. But the body roll bit was quite a nice surprise. I drove the 30d, and it had more than enough power. Still going to order the 50d because I'm a tt.
It's a great car when you want to forget you're "driving" and just need to get on with the business of being places.
Just what I expected to hear once somebody actually drove one, to be honest, and am glad.I've been looking for an SUV to take up to the north of sweden once a year, in pretty harsh snow/ice conditions, whilst carting 2 dogs (one enormous german shep and one wee little whippet) the entire 1500 miles or so (therefore extreme comfort/self driving tech is a must, as is MASSIVE rear space for the dogs to settle in for an entire days driving), to go see my girlfriends parents for a couple of weeks. Car needs to be able to handle rough terrain as will also be used out on trails, etc, up there. The rest of the year, it'll be used as a dog cart, family car, friend wagon, whatever.
I'll be honest, the X7 wasn't even on my list. Neither was the X5. The grills alone basically knocked them out of contention, at first.
My girlfriend forced me into the dealership where I was handed the keys to one overnight. Begrudgingly accepted.
It's utterly f
king fantastic. Honestly. What an excellent machine. It's so wonderfully comfortable whilst not being utterly floppy (hello FFRR..). Interior and infotainment is in another league to pretty much everything out there. Equipped to the gills with pretty much anything you could ever need or want (heated AND cooled cupholders anyone?). Feels well built. Cheaper than a Range Rover and better in, quite frankly, every metric.. Other than the size of the grill. But the car is so damn good I'm just going to order one in black, and black the grill out so it blends in more.Sure it doesn't drive like a supercar (why the f
k anyone would want stiffened suspension in one of these I cannot fathom), but it's not hopeless, dynamically. The lack of body roll took me by surprise. Of course you can feel absolutely nothing from the wheel. But the body roll bit was quite a nice surprise. I drove the 30d, and it had more than enough power. Still going to order the 50d because I'm a tt.It's a great car when you want to forget you're "driving" and just need to get on with the business of being places.
I hate the grille design as much as anyone here but there is a certain appeal of a lazy comfy SUV for family or in your case dog duties over high mileages.
I went in a new M50d X5 the other day and it seemed supremely comfortable, well screwed together and quick off the mark. I would have considered one with the 7s option in the future but the driver from the dealership said he thought the X7 felt no larger (longer but not wider perhaps) and that it was significantly more spacious on the third row.
In any case it will be interesting to see if this M50i X5 is compatible with third row.
theboss said:
Just what I expected to hear once somebody actually drove one, to be honest, and am glad.
I hate the grille design as much as anyone here but there is a certain appeal of a lazy comfy SUV for family or in your case dog duties over high mileages.
I went in a new M50d X5 the other day and it seemed supremely comfortable, well screwed together and quick off the mark. I would have considered one with the 7s option in the future but the driver from the dealership said he thought the X7 felt no larger (longer but not wider perhaps) and that it was significantly more spacious on the third row.
In any case it will be interesting to see if this M50i X5 is compatible with third row.
I would agree. The X7 felt surprisingly manageable on some tighter b-roads, even with lorries and busses coming round the other way. 3rd row space was surprising and you even have the option of going with the captains chairs in the middle row. Pretty nifty. Very versatile.I hate the grille design as much as anyone here but there is a certain appeal of a lazy comfy SUV for family or in your case dog duties over high mileages.
I went in a new M50d X5 the other day and it seemed supremely comfortable, well screwed together and quick off the mark. I would have considered one with the 7s option in the future but the driver from the dealership said he thought the X7 felt no larger (longer but not wider perhaps) and that it was significantly more spacious on the third row.
In any case it will be interesting to see if this M50i X5 is compatible with third row.
The only place I really felt the heft was when it came time to park the f
ker. Big old bus. Width still not a real issue, more just gauging turning radius/reverse angles etc. Just a matter of getting used to it, I guess.CyCy said:
theboss said:
Just what I expected to hear once somebody actually drove one, to be honest, and am glad.
I hate the grille design as much as anyone here but there is a certain appeal of a lazy comfy SUV for family or in your case dog duties over high mileages.
I went in a new M50d X5 the other day and it seemed supremely comfortable, well screwed together and quick off the mark. I would have considered one with the 7s option in the future but the driver from the dealership said he thought the X7 felt no larger (longer but not wider perhaps) and that it was significantly more spacious on the third row.
In any case it will be interesting to see if this M50i X5 is compatible with third row.
I would agree. The X7 felt surprisingly manageable on some tighter b-roads, even with lorries and busses coming round the other way. 3rd row space was surprising and you even have the option of going with the captains chairs in the middle row. Pretty nifty. Very versatile.I hate the grille design as much as anyone here but there is a certain appeal of a lazy comfy SUV for family or in your case dog duties over high mileages.
I went in a new M50d X5 the other day and it seemed supremely comfortable, well screwed together and quick off the mark. I would have considered one with the 7s option in the future but the driver from the dealership said he thought the X7 felt no larger (longer but not wider perhaps) and that it was significantly more spacious on the third row.
In any case it will be interesting to see if this M50i X5 is compatible with third row.
The only place I really felt the heft was when it came time to park the f
ker. Big old bus. Width still not a real issue, more just gauging turning radius/reverse angles etc. Just a matter of getting used to it, I guess.nickfrog said:
CyCy said:
Local BMW dealer (shoutout to Westerly Exeter!) dropped me an X7 to use overnight.
I've been looking for an SUV to take up to the north of sweden once a year, in pretty harsh snow/ice conditions, whilst carting 2 dogs (one enormous german shep and one wee little whippet) the entire 1500 miles or so (therefore extreme comfort/self driving tech is a must, as is MASSIVE rear space for the dogs to settle in for an entire days driving), to go see my girlfriends parents for a couple of weeks. Car needs to be able to handle rough terrain as will also be used out on trails, etc, up there. The rest of the year, it'll be used as a dog cart, family car, friend wagon, whatever.
I'll be honest, the X7 wasn't even on my list. Neither was the X5. The grills alone basically knocked them out of contention, at first.
My girlfriend forced me into the dealership where I was handed the keys to one overnight. Begrudgingly accepted.
It's utterly fking fantastic. Honestly. What an excellent machine. It's so wonderfully comfortable whilst not being utterly floppy (hello FFRR..). Interior and infotainment is in another league to pretty much everything out there. Equipped to the gills with pretty much anything you could ever need or want (heated AND cooled cupholders anyone?). Feels well built. Cheaper than a Range Rover and better in, quite frankly, every metric.. Other than the size of the grill. But the car is so damn good I'm just going to order one in black, and black the grill out so it blends in more.
Sure it doesn't drive like a supercar (why the fk anyone would want stiffened suspension in one of these I cannot fathom), but it's not hopeless, dynamically. The lack of body roll took me by surprise. Of course you can feel absolutely nothing from the wheel. But the body roll bit was quite a nice surprise. I drove the 30d, and it had more than enough power. Still going to order the 50d because I'm a tt.
It's a great car when you want to forget you're "driving" and just need to get on with the business of being places.
So you've tried the car and liked it despite your initial reservations. Others on this thread may want to follow your open mindedness. I've been looking for an SUV to take up to the north of sweden once a year, in pretty harsh snow/ice conditions, whilst carting 2 dogs (one enormous german shep and one wee little whippet) the entire 1500 miles or so (therefore extreme comfort/self driving tech is a must, as is MASSIVE rear space for the dogs to settle in for an entire days driving), to go see my girlfriends parents for a couple of weeks. Car needs to be able to handle rough terrain as will also be used out on trails, etc, up there. The rest of the year, it'll be used as a dog cart, family car, friend wagon, whatever.
I'll be honest, the X7 wasn't even on my list. Neither was the X5. The grills alone basically knocked them out of contention, at first.
My girlfriend forced me into the dealership where I was handed the keys to one overnight. Begrudgingly accepted.
It's utterly f
king fantastic. Honestly. What an excellent machine. It's so wonderfully comfortable whilst not being utterly floppy (hello FFRR..). Interior and infotainment is in another league to pretty much everything out there. Equipped to the gills with pretty much anything you could ever need or want (heated AND cooled cupholders anyone?). Feels well built. Cheaper than a Range Rover and better in, quite frankly, every metric.. Other than the size of the grill. But the car is so damn good I'm just going to order one in black, and black the grill out so it blends in more.Sure it doesn't drive like a supercar (why the f
k anyone would want stiffened suspension in one of these I cannot fathom), but it's not hopeless, dynamically. The lack of body roll took me by surprise. Of course you can feel absolutely nothing from the wheel. But the body roll bit was quite a nice surprise. I drove the 30d, and it had more than enough power. Still going to order the 50d because I'm a tt.It's a great car when you want to forget you're "driving" and just need to get on with the business of being places.
AMGSee55 said:
Have you considered an Octavia Scout (4x4) estate? My friend carts his Rottweilers around in one and we had one as a hire car in Iceland for a week. In fact everyone had one, they seemed to be the standard issue hire car for Iceland! Save you a hefty wedge on fuel and other running costs over an X5/7 and they’re well screwed together.
Good shout! And the facelifted version looks pretty damn sexy too. Couple of things I see missing are semi-autonomous driving capabilities which would be a very welcome addition on the 3k round trip every year, and trail would be somewhat questionable, I suppose. I've no doubt it's very capable otherwise, but up north things tend to get a bit less... taken care of :P
AMGSee55 said:
CyCy said:
theboss said:
Just what I expected to hear once somebody actually drove one, to be honest, and am glad.
I hate the grille design as much as anyone here but there is a certain appeal of a lazy comfy SUV for family or in your case dog duties over high mileages.
I went in a new M50d X5 the other day and it seemed supremely comfortable, well screwed together and quick off the mark. I would have considered one with the 7s option in the future but the driver from the dealership said he thought the X7 felt no larger (longer but not wider perhaps) and that it was significantly more spacious on the third row.
In any case it will be interesting to see if this M50i X5 is compatible with third row.
I would agree. The X7 felt surprisingly manageable on some tighter b-roads, even with lorries and busses coming round the other way. 3rd row space was surprising and you even have the option of going with the captains chairs in the middle row. Pretty nifty. Very versatile.I hate the grille design as much as anyone here but there is a certain appeal of a lazy comfy SUV for family or in your case dog duties over high mileages.
I went in a new M50d X5 the other day and it seemed supremely comfortable, well screwed together and quick off the mark. I would have considered one with the 7s option in the future but the driver from the dealership said he thought the X7 felt no larger (longer but not wider perhaps) and that it was significantly more spacious on the third row.
In any case it will be interesting to see if this M50i X5 is compatible with third row.
The only place I really felt the heft was when it came time to park the f
ker. Big old bus. Width still not a real issue, more just gauging turning radius/reverse angles etc. Just a matter of getting used to it, I guess.
My old man just picked up a spleeet new one of these last week.
I have never really warmed to his previous X5s as i didn't like the ride and felt the seats were a bit too sporty and amplified the harsh ride.
Tell you what...this new version is a huge step forward. Air suspension, really comfy seats and tech that is wayyy beyond...i couldn't even figure out how to change his radio 2 nonsense to abs 80s.
Had plenty effortless pace, very quiet and a really nice place to sit in. He didn't spec panoramic roof and with black seats and headlining which i felt made it a little cave like, but all in all, a really nice motor. Plus side is when your driving you cannot see the grill.
Have to say, i went from that into my wives GLS63 and it felt as though it was 10yrs behind...until i heard the noise it makes and all was almost forgiven.
Was planning on changing to the new GLS63 when it comes out but really need to check out how the tech levels compare...BMW have really pushed the boat out.
I have never really warmed to his previous X5s as i didn't like the ride and felt the seats were a bit too sporty and amplified the harsh ride.
Tell you what...this new version is a huge step forward. Air suspension, really comfy seats and tech that is wayyy beyond...i couldn't even figure out how to change his radio 2 nonsense to abs 80s.
Had plenty effortless pace, very quiet and a really nice place to sit in. He didn't spec panoramic roof and with black seats and headlining which i felt made it a little cave like, but all in all, a really nice motor. Plus side is when your driving you cannot see the grill.
Have to say, i went from that into my wives GLS63 and it felt as though it was 10yrs behind...until i heard the noise it makes and all was almost forgiven.
Was planning on changing to the new GLS63 when it comes out but really need to check out how the tech levels compare...BMW have really pushed the boat out.
Edited by 355spiderguy on Friday 24th May 10:49
Duke of Kidderminster said:
BMW make the the worst looking of all the SUVs
Is the wrong answer.All the Japanese ones are infinitely more ugly. As are all the Fords, Renaults, Pugs etc etc. The Koreans.
Audi's and VW's are bland.
No one ever said the Cayenne was a nice looking vehicle. It's just a pair of 911 headlights strapped to a hippo sized jelly mold.
The Jags are ok. The Stelvio is nice. I quite like most LR/RR models. The Evoque is a ladies handbag though.
So no, the BMW 's are not and are no where near the ugliest.
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