RE: Brabham BT62 | Driven
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The Vambo said:
I hope they are extremely successful but you would have to be f
king mental to spend £1.2M on that.
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WTF do they spend your money on?
How much do you think it costs to develop a car like this, with serious aero, etc.?king mental to spend £1.2M on that.[...]
WTF do they spend your money on?
How many people's (specialists, mind you) salaries will you need to pay to do that?
How many do you think they will sell?
Can you now answer your own question?
MikeT66 said:
Yes - would love to see this up against the Senna, unfettered Ford GT, etc. on the track. It's what Sportscar racing should be.
These Hypercars are generally much, much slower than a ground up developed GT3 racing car.Latest Top Gear youtube vid around Silverstone:
Senna: 2m 9s
650S GT3: 2m 2sec
Olivera said:
MikeT66 said:
Yes - would love to see this up against the Senna, unfettered Ford GT, etc. on the track. It's what Sportscar racing should be.
These Hypercars are generally much, much slower than a ground up developed GT3 racing car.Latest Top Gear youtube vid around Silverstone:
Senna: 2m 9s
650S GT3: 2m 2sec
I'm always totally mystified by stuff like this. I presume they wouldn't put it out there if they didn't know what they were doing but it all seems v odd to me. That amount of money buys pretty much any race car you want which'll have vastly more pedigree, will be usable in plenty of series if you want to compete and will probably require fewer mechanics too.
Still, best of luck to all.
Still, best of luck to all.
This is what happens when engineeers and racers get together and develop a car.
As a stand alone proposition it is lovely.
But the accountants and marketeers, for all their cotton socks, would have rightly pointed out that this is simply not a viable product to sell at this price.
I really wish them well, but I have grave doubts as to whether they will be around in 2 year's time...
As a stand alone proposition it is lovely.
But the accountants and marketeers, for all their cotton socks, would have rightly pointed out that this is simply not a viable product to sell at this price.
I really wish them well, but I have grave doubts as to whether they will be around in 2 year's time...
BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
This is what happens when engineeers and racers get together and develop a car.
As a stand alone proposition it is lovely.
But the accountants and marketeers, for all their cotton socks, would have rightly pointed out that this is simply not a viable product to sell at this price.
I really wish them well, but I have grave doubts as to whether they will be around in 2 year's time...
Being who he is I presume Mr. Brabham will have sounded out a lot of potential customers before even starting to design it. He must know everybody on the planet who's ever gone beyond 150 mph. As a stand alone proposition it is lovely.
But the accountants and marketeers, for all their cotton socks, would have rightly pointed out that this is simply not a viable product to sell at this price.
I really wish them well, but I have grave doubts as to whether they will be around in 2 year's time...
I'd be sweating all the same.
Car-Matt said:
Olivera said:
MikeT66 said:
Yes - would love to see this up against the Senna, unfettered Ford GT, etc. on the track. It's what Sportscar racing should be.
These Hypercars are generally much, much slower than a ground up developed GT3 racing car.Latest Top Gear youtube vid around Silverstone:
Senna: 2m 9s
650S GT3: 2m 2sec
A1VDY said:
Yet another pointless exercise. Clogged roads, low speed limits and dire Ave speeds in the UK and this thing appears
Totally aimed at geeky beardy Timothy types..
Its a track car. Its not designed for the roads, and even of you get one road legal, you do realise theres the entite rest of the world, not just english roads, that it can be driven? Why should people not make stuff like this? Totally aimed at geeky beardy Timothy types..
The Vambo said:
If I answered my own question it would be a rhetorical one about a company whose books I have never read.
Are you drunk?
If not please answer all those points in detail.
The point I was obviously making is that the market for something like this is really quite small. When you are selling very few cars then a very large portion of the cost goes not towards the parts, but to development and salaries. I'm sure that's all obvious to you, as smartypants as you evidently are, so one wonders why you asked the question in the first place.Are you drunk?
If not please answer all those points in detail.
You either hadn't actually considered the above (which I presumed from your incredulity), are trolling, or are just being an arse. From your ridiculous response I can only presume the latter.
blasos said:
Car-Matt said:
Olivera said:
MikeT66 said:
Yes - would love to see this up against the Senna, unfettered Ford GT, etc. on the track. It's what Sportscar racing should be.
These Hypercars are generally much, much slower than a ground up developed GT3 racing car.Latest Top Gear youtube vid around Silverstone:
Senna: 2m 9s
650S GT3: 2m 2sec
herebebeasties said:
How much do you think it costs to develop a car like this, with serious aero, etc.?
You'd be surprised how cheaply you can knock together a basic track only car that doesn't have to meet any rules or regulations. Today, thanks to cheap 3d CAD, you could do a decent chassis for around £100k worth of design work, and with a crate engine and off the shelf components the actual build won't be that expensive. Look at the pics, this car is a right lash up, with wiring, plumbing, electrics all just nailed down where they landed, with no attempt at any "useability" functions or optimisations. Hence it's loud, hot, uncomfortable. Going "fast" is actually really pretty easy these days thanks to massive power being available even from a crate engine, it's the other stuff that's hard!Max_Torque said:
You'd be surprised how cheaply you can knock together a basic track only car that doesn't have to meet any rules or regulations. Today, thanks to cheap 3d CAD, you could do a decent chassis for around £100k worth of design work, and with a crate engine and off the shelf components the actual build won't be that expensive. Look at the pics, this car is a right lash up, with wiring, plumbing, electrics all just nailed down where they landed, with no attempt at any "useability" functions or optimisations. Hence it's loud, hot, uncomfortable. Going "fast" is actually really pretty easy these days thanks to massive power being available even from a crate engine, it's the other stuff that's hard!
Absolutely and when you think that for £1.2M you are well into owning a modern F1 car territory which will be be way, way better engineered, hugely faster and always be a bit of history I'm not sure just how many homes the BT62 will find..... Max_Torque said:
You'd be surprised how cheaply you can knock together a basic track only car that doesn't have to meet any rules or regulations. Today, thanks to cheap 3d CAD, you could do a decent chassis for around £100k worth of design work, and with a crate engine and off the shelf components the actual build won't be that expensive. Look at the pics, this car is a right lash up, with wiring, plumbing, electrics all just nailed down where they landed, with no attempt at any "useability" functions or optimisations. Hence it's loud, hot, uncomfortable. Going "fast" is actually really pretty easy these days thanks to massive power being available even from a crate engine, it's the other stuff that's hard!
1.2m for a car with a generic clubman spec interior and an engine bay held together with zip ties is certainly taking the p1ss.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff